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On games as art: they aren't. Games are games. No one would call Pick Up Stix or Checkers art. No one would call Football art. But videogames can have art in them, which is what we're referring to when we mistakenly talk about games as art. The actual strategic gameplay--say, dodging the opponent and killing him with your laser gun--can be delivered within the context of a dramatic narrative, with visually and aurally artistic accoutrements, but those things can also be left out entirely without affecting the gameplay in the least. That is to say, there is still a game there even after all the art is taken away.
This is fundamentally different from a book or a film. Take away the dramatic narrative and any other artistic qualities in a film and you are left with nothing. The film is its story. Not so with games. The story is simply the context within which the game takes place. Ebert is looking at it from just this point of view. His idea of a game is, for example, tic-tac-toe. I go. You go. Someone wins, someone loses. Wrapping that up in some kind of dramatic storyline is all fine and good, but that storyline is not, strictly speaking, part of the game. |
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Dec 14, 18:15 |
Roger Ebert... |
JohnBirshire |
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Dec 14, 18:24 |
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Fuzzmatang |
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Dec 14, 20:17 |
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Prez |
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Dec 14, 22:38 |
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danebramage |
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Dec 14, 21:25 |
Re: Roger Ebert... |
Yifes |
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Dec 14, 23:59 |
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LittleMe |
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Dec 15, 00:17 |
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The Half Elf |
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Dec 15, 00:29 |
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LittleMe |
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Dec 14, 20:17 |
Re: Op Ed |
Cyanotetyphas |
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Dec 14, 20:27 |
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The Half Elf |
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Dec 14, 20:35 |
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Fang |
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Dec 15, 01:08 |
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Z9000 |
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Dec 15, 04:49 |
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LittleMe |
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Dec 15, 05:21 |
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Prez |
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Dec 15, 08:53 |
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InBlack |
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Dec 15, 12:24 |
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Dec 15, 14:45 |
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Fuzzmatang |
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Dec 15, 20:27 |
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Dec 15, 21:57 |
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Fuzzmatang |
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