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8. Re: Mobilization Oct 26, 2008, 12:02 theyarecomingforyou
 
Polytheism, the dominant strand of religiosity throughout our species' history, is by nature tolerant: if you believe that there are numerous gods, each with power limited to a specific piece of geography, then you aren't going to begrudge some foreign people for worshiping different gods than you.
Even with the ancient Egyptians there were conflicts over religion, so that takes us back more than 2000yrs. Then you have to take into account that records before that are poor to non-existent - religious conflict could have taken place a lot earlier, though unlikely to the same degree. Regardless, it is Christianity and Islam that are responsible for huge wrongs in this world and here it is Catholicism trying to expand its appeal. These religions preach peace, tolerance and understanding and yet are responsible for some of the greatest violence and hatred on the planet.

Religion serves no purpose now. It doesn't hold society together divides it. It doesn't make people more charitable, in fact evidence has suggested that atheists are more giving with their free time and money. It doesn't make sense with what we know. Why believe some dodgy book that has been passed down for millennia, inevitably manipulated by people along the way and unverifiable to start with (despite some historically accurate information)? Scientology demonstrates perfectly that religions just starts up and gain a following when they cannot possibly be legitimate. I don't rule out the possibility of the existence of a god / powerful creator entity but have seen absolutely nothing to suggest one exists.
 
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7. Re: Mobilization Oct 26, 2008, 08:02 HellSlayer
 
I love this idea!:)  
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6. Re: Mobilization Oct 26, 2008, 04:34 zirik
 
portable guilt... meh.  
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5. Re: Mobilization Oct 26, 2008, 02:38 Scottish Martial Arts
 
Religion is responsible for an obscene amount of conflict, now and throughout human existence

Only with the rise of Christianity and Islam, monotheistic religions wielding political power, has this been true. Polytheism, the dominant strand of religiosity throughout our species' history, is by nature tolerant: if you believe that there are numerous gods, each with power limited to a specific piece of geography, then you aren't going to begrudge some foreign people for worshiping different gods than you. Given that our species has been around for roughly 200,000 years, 2,000 years of monotheism is hardly "throughout our existence".

Additionally, Christianity and Islam have certainly committed sins throughout their existence, but it's wrong to suggest that these religions have only enhanced conflict. Although there are notable exceptions, Christianity, for example, acted as a mitigating force on warfare during the Middle Ages. A city siege in the Classical period, despite the period's religious tolerance, ended with the extermination of the male populous, the wholesale looting and destruction of the city, the rape of city's women, and the enslavement of any survivors. Compare this with the Medieval period in which warfare was largely limited to the society's warrior class, and in which the Catholic Church inforced strict prohibitions against harming non-combatants or allowing warfare to escalate beyond battles between combatants. To violate those prohibitions was to be excommunicated, which was the end of a ruler's political authority, and his virtual exile from the community of Western Christendom. Granted there are notable exceptions, particularly the sack of Jerusalem at the end of the 1st Crusade, but regardless, it was better to be a non-combatant in the medieval period than in the classical period.
 
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4. Re: Mobilization Oct 26, 2008, 00:26 PHJF
 
OOO, maybe next I can download the weekly podcast from Sunday mass!

Praise jebus!
 
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3. Re: Mobilization Oct 25, 2008, 21:54 theyarecomingforyou
 
Bloody hell. At least with reading people have to actively pay attention and wish to do so - with audio it can be played in the background and just makes it easier for gullible people to be taken in (religion's prime audience). Religion is responsible for an obscene amount of conflict, now and throughout human existence, and yet it continues to expand when it should be dying out. Instead we have new shit like Scientology springing up.

It's times like this I'm glad we've got shows like the X-Factor and Eastenders to suck up people's time and stop them considering religion.
 
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2. Re: Mobilization Oct 25, 2008, 19:54 Fausticle
 
The word of god didn't stop those priests from fucking little boys. So what good is it for the rest of the suckers out there?  
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1. Re: Mobilization Oct 25, 2008, 17:12 Shadowcat
 
Skimming past this headline, I read it as "Catholic bishops want 'World of Goo' on iPods". Which struck me as a very sensible desire (if maybe more suited to iPhones than iPods), but a rather unexpected one all the same.  
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