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Bioshock had atmosphere in spades. That wasn't its problem. I think it was billed as more of an "open-ended" world than it really was. The world, while vast and amazing, felt a little restricting if you took them at their meaning.
Another problem was that of the few choices that the player was presented with, virtually none had any real meaningful consequence. The situations where you could either harvest or rescue the little girl after killing her Big Daddy were brilliant - there was a palpable feeling of emotion and tenderness to the ensuing scene if you chose to rescue her that is rarely seen in games. But ultimately either choice was inconsequential except for which ending you might receive. The game needed more choice and consequence. But the template for an absolutely brilliant game is there. Ken Levine and his team still have it in them to make another System Shock quality game.
All in all, Bioshock was a great game that could have been sublime with just a few important refinements.
It (Deus Ex) obviously made enough profit to warrant a port, a sequel and a prequel.
From what I've read in interviews with Warren Specter, had the sequel to Deus Ex been pitched by anyone other than a game designer of his pedigree and stature, it never would have been given the go ahead. This tells me that the first game, while obviously a huge critical success, was a commercial failure, and only Specters formidable reputation and track record got him the funding for a sequel. He never quantifies it with actual numbers, but he has stated that Deus Ex was not a successful title at retail.
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