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That is the goal of game design after all...to make things functional, understandable and fun. Functional? Agreed. If your game doesn't work, that's a problem. Understandable? That depends entirely on the player. There are many players out there who don't understand how to play Civ. Does that mean the game isn't understandable? No, it just means certain players are retarded. Fun? Completely subjective. Only players can determine what is fun. The intent of designers is irrelevant. I found System Shock 2 to be more fun than Bioshock. According to the developers, I should find Bioshock more fun because it's more accessible.
If a player can't understand what they are supposed to do or how to upgrade items, then they need to let the players know that somehow. Again, it depends entirely on the player. As I mentioned before, focus testing is usually performed with the lowest common denominator of players. I'm guessing that Bioshock was originally very similar to SS2, which is to say it was completely incomprehensible to the Halo kiddies they undoubtedly used as their focus group. SS2 was not incomprehensible to the many players who consider it a classic.
When all you do is focus on the slightest semblance of statements that supports your position while ignoring the fact that she outright says the changes made the game better...yes, your interpretation is slanted. Say it with me: The player decides whether a game is better or not. Not the developers. I'm sure some of the developers of Bioshock think it is better than SS2. As a player who has played both games, I think SS2 is better. See what I'm getting at?
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Oct 4, 10:43 |
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NKD |
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Oct 5, 12:48 |
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Doma |
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Oct 5, 14:07 |
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Verno |
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Oct 5, 14:42 |
Dorf Fort |
Fuzzmatang |
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Oct 4, 10:44 |
This IP is SHOT! |
Techie714 © |
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Oct 4, 12:25 |
Re: This IP is SHOT! |
Xyggy |
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Oct 4, 13:12 |
GITS |
Wildone |
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Oct 4, 10:45 |
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Oct 4, 10:47 |
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NKD |
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Oct 4, 14:58 |
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Oct 4, 10:47 |
d'oh |
DG |
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Oct 4, 11:31 |
No subject |
Verno |
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Oct 4, 11:49 |
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nin |
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Oct 4, 11:59 |
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StaTik |
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Oct 4, 12:05 |
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Oct 4, 12:07 |
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NKD |
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Oct 4, 12:24 |
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Oct 4, 11:52 |
Deus Ex is dead. |
necrosis |
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Oct 4, 12:01 |
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Cholma |
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Oct 4, 11:57 |
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Cholma |
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Oct 4, 12:15 |
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Oct 4, 13:11 |
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Oct 4, 13:13 |
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Oct 4, 14:07 |
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Prez |
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Oct 4, 14:17 |
Ugh |
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Oct 4, 14:35 |
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Oct 4, 14:39 |
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NKD |
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Oct 4, 14:58 |
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Oct 4, 14:44 |
Deus Ex |
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Oct 4, 14:34 |
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Oct 4, 15:13 |
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Oct 4, 15:26 |
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Oct 4, 15:43 |
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Oct 4, 16:49 |
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Oct 4, 17:20 |
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NKD |
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Oct 4, 18:28 |
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Prez |
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Oct 4, 15:03 |
They have inherited... |
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Oct 4, 15:19 |
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Verno |
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Oct 4, 18:04 |
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Oct 4, 18:27 |
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Kxmode |
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Oct 4, 18:34 |
3rd person? |
Surf |
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Oct 4, 18:38 |
Re: 3rd person? |
Prez |
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Oct 4, 19:30 |
Re: 3rd person? |
Kxmode |
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Oct 4, 18:41 |
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Verno |
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Oct 4, 18:53 |
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Wilson |
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Oct 4, 19:24 |
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Ludomancer |
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Oct 4, 19:53 |
True |
Surf |
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Oct 4, 20:23 |
Re: True |
Jerykk |
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Oct 4, 20:34 |
Re: True |
NKD |
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Oct 4, 20:48 |
Re: True |
Prez |
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Oct 4, 20:57 |
Re: True |
Jerykk |
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Oct 4, 21:08 |
Re: True |
NKD |
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Oct 4, 21:15 |
Re: True |
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Oct 4, 21:19 |
Re: True |
Jerykk |
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Oct 4, 21:30 |
Re: True |
NKD |
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Oct 4, 21:40 |
Re: True |
Jerykk |
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Oct 4, 20:09 |
Great quotes from dev |
DirkDaring |
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Oct 4, 21:41 |
No subject |
Verno |
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Oct 4, 21:43 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 4, 22:02 |
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NKD |
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Oct 4, 22:22 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 4, 22:26 |
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Ludomancer |
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Oct 4, 22:38 |
What I wouldn't give.. |
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Oct 4, 22:53 |
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Dreagon |
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Oct 4, 23:36 |
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Kedyn |
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Oct 5, 00:17 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 5, 00:58 |
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Prez |
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Oct 5, 01:07 |
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Jerykk |
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Verno |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 4, 22:39 |
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Oct 4, 23:35 |
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Prez |
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Oct 5, 00:05 |
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Cabezone |
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Oct 5, 02:53 |
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Cabezone |
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Oct 5, 03:08 |
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Verno |
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Oct 5, 07:19 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 5, 08:03 |
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J |
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Oct 5, 03:35 |
Why? |
Acleacius |
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Oct 13, 12:09 |
Re: Why? |
Doc |
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Oct 5, 04:06 |
No subject |
Verno |
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Oct 5, 06:14 |
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Prez |
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Oct 5, 09:35 |
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No subject |
Hump |
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Oct 5, 12:17 |
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NKD |
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Oct 5, 19:03 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 5, 10:46 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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Oct 5, 19:10 |
Re: ... |
Jerykk |
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Oct 5, 21:27 |
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Krovven |
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Oct 5, 22:12 |
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Oct 5, 22:25 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 6, 03:21 |
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Krovven |
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Oct 6, 11:55 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 6, 16:37 |
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Krovven |
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Oct 6, 19:18 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 6, 20:46 |
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Krovven |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 6, 22:05 |
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Oct 6, 22:37 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 6, 22:10 |
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Krovven |
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Oct 6, 22:43 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 6, 23:02 |
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Oct 6, 23:49 |
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Oct 7, 00:04 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 7, 00:31 |
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Oct 5, 12:15 |
So... |
Quboid |
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Oct 5, 12:22 |
Re: So... |
Unzerpum |
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Oct 5, 12:23 |
Re: So... |
NKD |
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96. |
Oct 5, 23:23 |
Hmmmm |
Creston |
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Oct 5, 23:27 |
Re: Hmmmm |
Jerykk |
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Oct 6, 00:43 |
Re: Hmmmm |
Trainwreck |
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Oct 6, 00:49 |
Re: Hmmmm |
Jerykk |
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Oct 6, 00:52 |
Re: Hmmmm |
PHJF |
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Oct 6, 23:07 |
No subject |
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Oct 6, 23:10 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 6, 23:22 |
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Prez |
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Oct 6, 23:25 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 7, 10:24 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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Oct 7, 13:03 |
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Jerykk |
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Oct 7, 16:38 |
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Prez |
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Oct 7, 16:42 |
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Prez |
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Oct 7, 16:49 |
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