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Edge
Online has some quotes from Harald Seeley taken from an upcoming interview
with the Engine Business Manager at Crytek about controversial remarks by Crytek
CEO Cevat Yerli about the dire impact of PC piracy on sales of Crysis
( story). Harald concedes that not everyone who pirated their
first-person shooter would have bought it, but he thinks there is an argument to
be made that those still playing the game and downloading patches (they
apparently still have more active users than unit sales) could be considered
lost customers: "I think we can safely say if they were still playing the game
by the time our latest patch released, and if they were playing on a pirated
copy, then they were a sale that didn’t happen but probably would have had it
not been possible to obtain the game illegally." He also makes observations
about DRM, saying: "For example, the consoles themselves are, in one sense,
simply very good DRM technologies that consumers welcome and pay for, in order
to receive the benefits that come with them…"
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And your point?
Simply put, I prefer a developer and publisher who is more interested in supporting the community who buy their game instead of worrying themselves to death over pirates who will help themselves to their stuff no matter how much whining, complaining, and DRM'ing they do. Brad Wardell has earned a ton of respect from me. He doesn't concern himself with the people who steal his game - he recognizes they are not his customers. And saying that there is nothing to compare it to is a bit specious given that the crux of your argument is based on speculation, isn't it?
Sins and GalCiv spent a long time in the NPD top ten, so it is easy to assume the game sold very well, and, more importantly, given their modest development budgets, made Stardock a ton of money. I visit Stardock daily and never once has Wardell complained about piracy, even though one look at the torrent sites proves his games are heavily pirated. He steadfastly maintains that he does not care about the pirates; they are not his customers! He is far more concerned in keeping the REAL fans of his games (i.e. the paying customers like me) happy through incredible continued support. He actually angers other developers who whine incessantly about piracy with his complete lack of concern about piracy!
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Consoles are very good DRM technologies? |
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The Deathe of PC Gaming. |
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Software pirates |
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The real solution to piracy... |
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Aug 28, 20:56 |
this is dumb |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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188. |
Aug 28, 20:59 |
Re: this is dumb |
Verno |
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203. |
Aug 28, 21:39 |
No subject |
Verno |
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209. |
Aug 28, 22:03 |
Re: No subject |
Krovven |
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211. |
Aug 28, 22:21 |
Re: No subject |
Bhruic |
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213. |
Aug 28, 22:33 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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214. |
Aug 28, 22:34 |
Re: No subject |
Verno |
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215. |
Aug 28, 22:42 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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206. |
Aug 28, 21:48 |
Jevis! |
Kxmode |
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210. |
Aug 28, 22:07 |
No subject |
Verno |
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241. |
Aug 29, 21:24 |
BS. |
instant |
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242. |
Aug 29, 21:31 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
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243. |
Aug 29, 22:06 |
Re: BS. |
Bhruic |
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245. |
Aug 29, 22:52 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
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249. |
Aug 30, 07:22 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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250. |
Aug 30, 10:57 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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252. |
Aug 30, 13:49 |
Re: BS. |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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253. |
Aug 30, 19:29 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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254. |
Aug 30, 20:01 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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256. |
Aug 30, 21:17 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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257. |
Aug 30, 23:41 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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260. |
Aug 31, 02:08 |
Re: BS. |
manic half |
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261. |
Aug 31, 04:31 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
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262. |
Aug 31, 06:45 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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264. |
Aug 31, 12:13 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
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273. |
Sep 2, 15:13 |
Re: BS. |
xXBatmanXx |
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251. |
Aug 30, 13:45 |
No subject |
Verno |
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255. |
Aug 30, 20:09 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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258. |
Aug 31, 01:46 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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259. |
Aug 31, 02:07 |
Re: ... |
manic half |
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265. |
Aug 31, 18:08 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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263. |
Aug 31, 10:08 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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266. |
Aug 31, 23:47 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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267. |
Sep 1, 03:31 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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268. |
Sep 1, 06:15 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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269. |
Sep 1, 12:39 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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270. |
Sep 1, 15:52 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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271. |
Sep 1, 21:12 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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272. |
Sep 2, 12:02 |
Pricey |
Tumbler |
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