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Edge
Online has some quotes from Harald Seeley taken from an upcoming interview
with the Engine Business Manager at Crytek about controversial remarks by Crytek
CEO Cevat Yerli about the dire impact of PC piracy on sales of Crysis
( story). Harald concedes that not everyone who pirated their
first-person shooter would have bought it, but he thinks there is an argument to
be made that those still playing the game and downloading patches (they
apparently still have more active users than unit sales) could be considered
lost customers: "I think we can safely say if they were still playing the game
by the time our latest patch released, and if they were playing on a pirated
copy, then they were a sale that didn’t happen but probably would have had it
not been possible to obtain the game illegally." He also makes observations
about DRM, saying: "For example, the consoles themselves are, in one sense,
simply very good DRM technologies that consumers welcome and pay for, in order
to receive the benefits that come with them…"
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I'm still missing your point so let me be succinct with mine - they don't care about PC resales, at all. It's so small it probably doesn't even enter into the decision making process. Ok, my point is that you're completely wrong. Yes they care about the PC second-hand market, and yes, it's large enough that if they can eliminate it, they'll do so. Not sure how to be clearer than that.
They use DRM these days to cut down on zero-day piracy. Make the game harder to crack so that a pirated copy doesn't appear during the initial retail period. That's the logic they're using. It's not used as a deterrent anymore, I already said that in my previous post. There are two parts to the recent EA copy protection. The first is a "to install" copy protection, and the second is a "limited install" copy protection. It is the first one that prevents zero-day piracy. The second one does nothing to stop it.
You don't need to get angry at me about it I'm not angry at you. I simply disagree with what you are saying.
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Glad I didn't pay for it |
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If I had known |
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Aug 28, 04:58 |
Consoles are very good DRM technologies? |
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Could be considered ... |
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Why are people defending piracy |
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What it comes down to. |
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The Deathe of PC Gaming. |
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No |
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Software pirates |
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The real solution to piracy... |
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Pirates... |
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Online Auth |
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203. |
Aug 28, 21:39 |
No subject |
Verno |
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209. |
Aug 28, 22:03 |
Re: No subject |
Krovven |
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211. |
Aug 28, 22:21 |
Re: No subject |
Bhruic |
| |
213. |
Aug 28, 22:33 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
| |
214. |
Aug 28, 22:34 |
Re: No subject |
Verno |
| |
215. |
Aug 28, 22:42 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
| |
206. |
Aug 28, 21:48 |
Jevis! |
Kxmode |
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210. |
Aug 28, 22:07 |
No subject |
Verno |
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241. |
Aug 29, 21:24 |
BS. |
instant |
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242. |
Aug 29, 21:31 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
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243. |
Aug 29, 22:06 |
Re: BS. |
Bhruic |
| |
245. |
Aug 29, 22:52 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
| |
249. |
Aug 30, 07:22 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
| |
250. |
Aug 30, 10:57 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
| |
252. |
Aug 30, 13:49 |
Re: BS. |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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253. |
Aug 30, 19:29 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
| |
254. |
Aug 30, 20:01 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
| |
256. |
Aug 30, 21:17 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
| |
257. |
Aug 30, 23:41 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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260. |
Aug 31, 02:08 |
Re: BS. |
manic half |
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261. |
Aug 31, 04:31 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
| |
262. |
Aug 31, 06:45 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
| |
264. |
Aug 31, 12:13 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
| |
273. |
Sep 2, 15:13 |
Re: BS. |
xXBatmanXx |
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251. |
Aug 30, 13:45 |
No subject |
Verno |
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255. |
Aug 30, 20:09 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
| |
258. |
Aug 31, 01:46 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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259. |
Aug 31, 02:07 |
Re: ... |
manic half |
| |
265. |
Aug 31, 18:08 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
| |
263. |
Aug 31, 10:08 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
| |
266. |
Aug 31, 23:47 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
| |
267. |
Sep 1, 03:31 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
| |
268. |
Sep 1, 06:15 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
| |
269. |
Sep 1, 12:39 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
| |
270. |
Sep 1, 15:52 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
| |
271. |
Sep 1, 21:12 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
| |
272. |
Sep 2, 12:02 |
Pricey |
Tumbler |
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