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Edge
Online has some quotes from Harald Seeley taken from an upcoming interview
with the Engine Business Manager at Crytek about controversial remarks by Crytek
CEO Cevat Yerli about the dire impact of PC piracy on sales of Crysis
( story). Harald concedes that not everyone who pirated their
first-person shooter would have bought it, but he thinks there is an argument to
be made that those still playing the game and downloading patches (they
apparently still have more active users than unit sales) could be considered
lost customers: "I think we can safely say if they were still playing the game
by the time our latest patch released, and if they were playing on a pirated
copy, then they were a sale that didn’t happen but probably would have had it
not been possible to obtain the game illegally." He also makes observations
about DRM, saying: "For example, the consoles themselves are, in one sense,
simply very good DRM technologies that consumers welcome and pay for, in order
to receive the benefits that come with them…"
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No one is saying it's dying but you can look back 5 years and examine how many AAA titles you had to play and compare that to this year. Indie devs have helped pick up some of the slack but there's still a large dearth in the market right now, with some genres almost nonexistent. There has been a definite and unusual shift of PC developers moving to consoles.
In the past when a new console generation was spawned, people typically flocked to it but the PC gaming industry has also had many developers exclusive to it. That combined the technical superiority and features of the platform always helped balance things out. That trend has been upset for a few years now and doesn't appear to be changing back like it did in the past.
You're saying you're not worried because people always say PC gaming is dying. I'm not saying PC gaming is dying but I am saying you should be worried
Like you I've been a PC gamer for a loooong time and I've seen the market do some odd things but I've never seen such a drastic change before. In terms of "not running out of PC games to play", I'd love to hear what games you are playing. Right now I've got TF2 off and on, Spore/Left 4 Dead coming up and I replayed The Witcher. I actually run out of PC games to play quite frequently now and that's part of the reason I started hitting forums like these
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Aug 28, 18:43 |
Online Auth |
Tumbler |
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152. |
Aug 28, 18:55 |
No subject |
sponge |
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187. |
Aug 28, 20:56 |
this is dumb |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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188. |
Aug 28, 20:59 |
Re: this is dumb |
Verno |
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203. |
Aug 28, 21:39 |
No subject |
Verno |
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209. |
Aug 28, 22:03 |
Re: No subject |
Krovven |
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211. |
Aug 28, 22:21 |
Re: No subject |
Bhruic |
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213. |
Aug 28, 22:33 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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214. |
Aug 28, 22:34 |
Re: No subject |
Verno |
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215. |
Aug 28, 22:42 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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206. |
Aug 28, 21:48 |
Jevis! |
Kxmode |
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210. |
Aug 28, 22:07 |
No subject |
Verno |
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241. |
Aug 29, 21:24 |
BS. |
instant |
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242. |
Aug 29, 21:31 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
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243. |
Aug 29, 22:06 |
Re: BS. |
Bhruic |
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245. |
Aug 29, 22:52 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
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249. |
Aug 30, 07:22 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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250. |
Aug 30, 10:57 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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252. |
Aug 30, 13:49 |
Re: BS. |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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253. |
Aug 30, 19:29 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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254. |
Aug 30, 20:01 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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256. |
Aug 30, 21:17 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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257. |
Aug 30, 23:41 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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260. |
Aug 31, 02:08 |
Re: BS. |
manic half |
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261. |
Aug 31, 04:31 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
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262. |
Aug 31, 06:45 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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264. |
Aug 31, 12:13 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
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273. |
Sep 2, 15:13 |
Re: BS. |
xXBatmanXx |
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251. |
Aug 30, 13:45 |
No subject |
Verno |
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255. |
Aug 30, 20:09 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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258. |
Aug 31, 01:46 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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259. |
Aug 31, 02:07 |
Re: ... |
manic half |
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265. |
Aug 31, 18:08 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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263. |
Aug 31, 10:08 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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266. |
Aug 31, 23:47 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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267. |
Sep 1, 03:31 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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268. |
Sep 1, 06:15 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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269. |
Sep 1, 12:39 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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270. |
Sep 1, 15:52 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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271. |
Sep 1, 21:12 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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272. |
Sep 2, 12:02 |
Pricey |
Tumbler |
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