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Edge
Online has some quotes from Harald Seeley taken from an upcoming interview
with the Engine Business Manager at Crytek about controversial remarks by Crytek
CEO Cevat Yerli about the dire impact of PC piracy on sales of Crysis
( story). Harald concedes that not everyone who pirated their
first-person shooter would have bought it, but he thinks there is an argument to
be made that those still playing the game and downloading patches (they
apparently still have more active users than unit sales) could be considered
lost customers: "I think we can safely say if they were still playing the game
by the time our latest patch released, and if they were playing on a pirated
copy, then they were a sale that didn’t happen but probably would have had it
not been possible to obtain the game illegally." He also makes observations
about DRM, saying: "For example, the consoles themselves are, in one sense,
simply very good DRM technologies that consumers welcome and pay for, in order
to receive the benefits that come with them…"
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While I think you could be a bit less antagonistic Tumbler, I do agree with one thing you said earlier: the importance of purchase versus piracy and understanding why.
It's not important to understand why people pirate things, it is very important to understand why they aren't buying them. It's a distinction that seems to escape notice around here quite often. Companies should focus more on shifting their products to meet market demand and to be fair, they have been doing this. Focusing on piracy is pointless because it's an open platform in the first place. I'm not saying DRM can't be used, I think DRM can be quite benign and serve the publisher without affecting the consumer. I'm just saying these dumb interviews about piracy are a waste of time.
The best thing for PC gaming right now is to trim the fat. There is just too much shit getting put on shelves. I think the real important thing here is the potential that not enough is getting on the shelves period versus other platforms. Retail stores demand sales to continue offering shelf space in the first place and digital distribution is still in it's infancy, it's not ready to takeover that kind of mass market (yet).
PC gamers don't want your games. That is why they don't pay for them. Take a hint and LEAVE. You're speaking for yourself, not PC gamers. I don't get how you feel personally slighted by any of these things and make these ridiculous statements. I guess whatever floats your boat. Personally I like PC games and I'd rather keep developers around, thanks.
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Consoles are very good DRM technologies? |
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Why are people defending piracy |
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What it comes down to. |
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The Deathe of PC Gaming. |
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Software pirates |
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The real solution to piracy... |
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Pirates... |
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Aug 28, 18:43 |
Online Auth |
Tumbler |
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152. |
Aug 28, 18:55 |
No subject |
sponge |
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187. |
Aug 28, 20:56 |
this is dumb |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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188. |
Aug 28, 20:59 |
Re: this is dumb |
Verno |
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203. |
Aug 28, 21:39 |
No subject |
Verno |
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209. |
Aug 28, 22:03 |
Re: No subject |
Krovven |
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211. |
Aug 28, 22:21 |
Re: No subject |
Bhruic |
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213. |
Aug 28, 22:33 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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214. |
Aug 28, 22:34 |
Re: No subject |
Verno |
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215. |
Aug 28, 22:42 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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206. |
Aug 28, 21:48 |
Jevis! |
Kxmode |
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210. |
Aug 28, 22:07 |
No subject |
Verno |
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241. |
Aug 29, 21:24 |
BS. |
instant |
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242. |
Aug 29, 21:31 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
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243. |
Aug 29, 22:06 |
Re: BS. |
Bhruic |
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245. |
Aug 29, 22:52 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
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249. |
Aug 30, 07:22 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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250. |
Aug 30, 10:57 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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252. |
Aug 30, 13:49 |
Re: BS. |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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253. |
Aug 30, 19:29 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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254. |
Aug 30, 20:01 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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256. |
Aug 30, 21:17 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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257. |
Aug 30, 23:41 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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260. |
Aug 31, 02:08 |
Re: BS. |
manic half |
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261. |
Aug 31, 04:31 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
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262. |
Aug 31, 06:45 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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264. |
Aug 31, 12:13 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
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273. |
Sep 2, 15:13 |
Re: BS. |
xXBatmanXx |
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251. |
Aug 30, 13:45 |
No subject |
Verno |
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255. |
Aug 30, 20:09 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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258. |
Aug 31, 01:46 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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259. |
Aug 31, 02:07 |
Re: ... |
manic half |
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265. |
Aug 31, 18:08 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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263. |
Aug 31, 10:08 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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266. |
Aug 31, 23:47 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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267. |
Sep 1, 03:31 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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268. |
Sep 1, 06:15 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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269. |
Sep 1, 12:39 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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270. |
Sep 1, 15:52 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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271. |
Sep 1, 21:12 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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272. |
Sep 2, 12:02 |
Pricey |
Tumbler |
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