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Edge
Online has some quotes from Harald Seeley taken from an upcoming interview
with the Engine Business Manager at Crytek about controversial remarks by Crytek
CEO Cevat Yerli about the dire impact of PC piracy on sales of Crysis
( story). Harald concedes that not everyone who pirated their
first-person shooter would have bought it, but he thinks there is an argument to
be made that those still playing the game and downloading patches (they
apparently still have more active users than unit sales) could be considered
lost customers: "I think we can safely say if they were still playing the game
by the time our latest patch released, and if they were playing on a pirated
copy, then they were a sale that didn’t happen but probably would have had it
not been possible to obtain the game illegally." He also makes observations
about DRM, saying: "For example, the consoles themselves are, in one sense,
simply very good DRM technologies that consumers welcome and pay for, in order
to receive the benefits that come with them…"
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All due respect to Tumbler, but Crysis was not "shit in a box". It might not have been your thing, or it might have fallen short of your expectations, but many of us found it to be a fun, solid, and yes, great-looking shooter. I played the Crysis Beta, Played the Demo, modded the demo so I could see more of the game (high power weapons, helo's, etc) and I don't think it was shit in a box. But it wasn't worth $50 either.
The general dissatisfaction of consumers buying PC games is what I'm pointing to specifically. Crysis isn't the worst offender but when they speak up like they deserve more money from consumers for this product it's a bit insulting.
Some obviously liked the game but judging by comments but an alarming majority feel that the game was marketed as much more than it was and consumers ended up with Far-Cry enhanced rather than the awesomeness they were led to believe it was.
I recall how impressed people were with the jungle fighting and trees falling down video clips, and crazy stuff happening. Was very impressive but the full game comes out and the experience just doesn't match the hype.
I don't know why you choose this game to defend like gamers should give it more sympathy because it tried hard to be a leading PC game, something that draws people to the platform, but ended up being an average game masquerading as a amazing game.
It's a bait and switch. Just because it's a PC game doesn't make than any easier to swallow for someone who spends money on it.
And this is the norm, do anything you can to sell your game. It doesn't matter what, just sell. If you make the sale you win and everyone is happy... Everyone except the customers, and who needs them anyway?
I guess now you know.
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I got some paper and wood |
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Aug 28, 05:46 |
Glad I didn't pay for it |
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Aug 28, 04:21 |
If I had known |
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Aug 28, 04:58 |
Consoles are very good DRM technologies? |
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Could be considered ... |
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Aug 28, 08:25 |
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Aug 28, 08:46 |
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Aug 28, 08:57 |
Why are people defending piracy |
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Aug 28, 09:09 |
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Aug 28, 10:15 |
What it comes down to. |
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Aug 28, 21:51 |
The Deathe of PC Gaming. |
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Aug 28, 08:44 |
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Aug 28, 09:02 |
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Aug 28, 09:07 |
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Aug 28, 10:22 |
Software pirates |
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Aug 28, 10:24 |
The real solution to piracy... |
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Pirates... |
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Scum |
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248. |
Aug 30, 05:54 |
Re: Scum |
Prez |
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134. |
Aug 28, 16:27 |
No subject |
xXBatmanXx |
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149. |
Aug 28, 18:43 |
Online Auth |
Tumbler |
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152. |
Aug 28, 18:55 |
No subject |
sponge |
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187. |
Aug 28, 20:56 |
this is dumb |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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188. |
Aug 28, 20:59 |
Re: this is dumb |
Verno |
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203. |
Aug 28, 21:39 |
No subject |
Verno |
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209. |
Aug 28, 22:03 |
Re: No subject |
Krovven |
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211. |
Aug 28, 22:21 |
Re: No subject |
Bhruic |
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213. |
Aug 28, 22:33 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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214. |
Aug 28, 22:34 |
Re: No subject |
Verno |
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215. |
Aug 28, 22:42 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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206. |
Aug 28, 21:48 |
Jevis! |
Kxmode |
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210. |
Aug 28, 22:07 |
No subject |
Verno |
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241. |
Aug 29, 21:24 |
BS. |
instant |
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242. |
Aug 29, 21:31 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
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243. |
Aug 29, 22:06 |
Re: BS. |
Bhruic |
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245. |
Aug 29, 22:52 |
Re: BS. |
Verno |
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249. |
Aug 30, 07:22 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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250. |
Aug 30, 10:57 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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252. |
Aug 30, 13:49 |
Re: BS. |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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253. |
Aug 30, 19:29 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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254. |
Aug 30, 20:01 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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256. |
Aug 30, 21:17 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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257. |
Aug 30, 23:41 |
Re: BS. |
Jerykk |
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260. |
Aug 31, 02:08 |
Re: BS. |
manic half |
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261. |
Aug 31, 04:31 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
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262. |
Aug 31, 06:45 |
Re: BS. |
Ataneruo |
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264. |
Aug 31, 12:13 |
Re: BS. |
Prez |
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273. |
Sep 2, 15:13 |
Re: BS. |
xXBatmanXx |
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251. |
Aug 30, 13:45 |
No subject |
Verno |
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255. |
Aug 30, 20:09 |
Re: No subject |
Jerykk |
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258. |
Aug 31, 01:46 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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259. |
Aug 31, 02:07 |
Re: ... |
manic half |
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265. |
Aug 31, 18:08 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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263. |
Aug 31, 10:08 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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266. |
Aug 31, 23:47 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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267. |
Sep 1, 03:31 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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268. |
Sep 1, 06:15 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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269. |
Sep 1, 12:39 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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270. |
Sep 1, 15:52 |
... |
theyarecomingforyou |
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271. |
Sep 1, 21:12 |
Re: ... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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272. |
Sep 2, 12:02 |
Pricey |
Tumbler |
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