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id Software's John
Carmack and Marty Stratton Talk Quake Live, PC Gaming, and More on Shacknews
offers a Q&A with id Software. Topics include the accessibility being built into
Quake Live (or QUAKE LIVE, as the case may unfortunately be), Carmack's
regrets that id "didn't have the manpower to do something that would be what we
would consider our best foot forward" for the new iPhone (wtf?), Rage,
community support, and more. Of particular interest are Mr. Carmack's reflections on a changing landscape for PC gaming: Yeah, I think that the PC definitely
can't.. we can't go on making PC games like we used to. The combination of the
dominance of the consoles, as far as market forces there, and piracy.. the
traditional AAA, media-heavy boxed game that sells for a bunch of money, and
goes out on the PC for a single player experience--it's just not happening. Even
if we look at something that had such a push like Crysis, it didn't really do
all that well.
While at id Software we're still certainly doing those types of AAA titles on
[the PC platform], we have to look at it from a cross-platform product
perspective on there, rather than being PC-focused like we used to be. I mean,
all the way up to our last major title, which was Doom 3, we were a PC company.
We made PC games, and we gave some thought to how they might be deployed on
consoles, but that wasn't what we were fundamentally doing. And that has changed
with this generation.
But still, there are some things that the PC does fundamentally better than the
console. I mean, the internet interaction, as far as displaying and navigating
large amounts of information on a website--while you have web browsers on
consoles, they suck, you know, they're just not good. It's not like what you've
got on the PC.
And from a first person shooter perspective, the keyboard/mouse interface is
still just a lot better than a console interface. It's a much more direct
position vs. integrating over time.. it's just plain better, and that's one of
the things we want to cater to.
So there are strengths that the PC has, and we think Quake Live is very much
playing to them. While given infinite resources, yeah, it'd be great to go ahead
and do another technology showcase on the PC, because you've got a couple times
the power in a modern high-end system than you do in a current generation
console.
But it's just not feasible for us as a company to continue taking that route. So
we are branching out into some different areas and diversifying a little bit,
where we've got our id Tech 5, cross-platform, high-end stuff that we are
pushing, and we've also got Quake Live and our mobile products.
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theyarecomingforyou said:
I personally thought the Thief games were dull, so I'd have to disagree with you there. You'd disagree that putting in some of the elements of Thief may have made it a better game?
I didn't say "make AC = Thief 4".
I loved planning out missions with Rainbow 6, yet with Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 it was simply an action shooter - it didn't deserve to use the name. And that's where the problem lies.
If consoles = the future and consoles = dumbed down games for the masses then the future = dumbed down games for the masses
Now, Carmack may be one of 'the' guys in the industry, but when you look at his body of work (even going back to Keen), his games have never really been what you would describe as deep (although stuff like trick jumping in Quake III takes a lot of skill and would be extremely difficult to emulate on a console). And they certainly don't appeal to everyone.
So, as influential as he is, I take his opinion with a big grain of salt because it's as subjective as hell.
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PC Gaming |
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baH, go hold Crytek's hand |
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PC Gaming is Dead. |
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