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More id on PC Gaming

GamesIndustry.biz has more quotes on the state of PC gaming, this time from Steve Nix, id Software Director of Business Development. Nix feels some of the hardcore PC gaming audience is shifting to consoles, something id cannot ignore:

"There are plenty of people who are diehard mouse and keyboard guys that may never go to console, and also right now, if you have the highest of high-end PCs, you're generally going to get a better visual experience," Nix said. "There's no console out there that's as powerful as a God machine right now, with a Quad-Core and a GeForce 8800 - it's very hard for any console to compete with that."

"So you still have PC players, and some players are just console guys, but have players moved over? Absolutely. We love PC gaming, and we continue to support PC gaming - but you can't ignore the market realities and the size of the console market these days."

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99. Re: No subject Mar 21, 2008, 03:27 Jerykk
 
I don't know where you got the idea that NPD doesn't track Wal-Mart, but that's wrong.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/npd/npd-how-it-works-229825.php

Actually Canada and Australia game sales are available too.

Except neither of those are Europe, where PC games sell best.

No, they do give a "good" representation of at least the North American market.

And North America isn't the only territory in the world and it certainly isn't the best territory for PC game sales.

So, double that time for each tier of service, and you find that it can take at least ten hours to download a 5GB game for many if not most U.S. broadband customers.

But how many of those customers are gamers? I think it's safe to assume that gamers would opt for the best connection they could, unlike non-gamers who only browse the web or watch videos on Youtube.

I once attended a forum where Robert Garriot of NCSoft spoke on the issue of digital distribution, and he said that his company found that his U.S. customers overwhelmingingly preferred to purchase his company's MMO games at retail rather than download them from his company even though that choice was available to them.

How long ago was this and in reference to what games? While I have no doubt that most consumers prefer physical media over downloads, digital distribution has really only started taking off in the past year.

Plugging in an add-on hard drive to a console is no more of an upgrade than plugging in an extra controller like a racing wheel.

It's not the installation of upgrades that's the problem. It's the cost. Kids and teenagers make up a large portion of the console demographic and their parents probably won't be too eager to pay $200+ for a new hard drive every year. Actually, nobody would be eager to pay that.

That's not preventing current XBOX Live users from downloading the original XBOX titles Microsoft offers through Live like Halo.

Halo was a DVD5, which is about half as big as DVD9.

Plus, their download services could allow users to redownload games so that users wouldn't have to store their entire downloaded game library locally.

Yes, they could. Except that would be a hassle for the user. If the user can't/doesn't want to spend $200 on a new HD, they'll have to delete games off their existing drive. If they ever want to replay those games, they'll have to redownload the whole 8 gigs.

The same thing can be said of similar downloadable PC games which is why retail/physical sales still dominate.

Except you leave out the key difference between the two groups: PC gamers are used to downloading big files, checking/making free space, installing games on hard drives, etc. Console gamers are used to just popping in a disc and playing. The PC gamer and the PC itself are more inclined towards digital distribution than the console gamer and console.

I'm not saying that digital distribution of big new games won't happen on consoles. I just don't think it'll be as popular as it is on the PC. Case in point: Sins of a Solar Empire has made most of its sales through digital distribution. I'm sure The Orange Box also made a hefty amount of sales off Steam.

 
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