This whole "casual" vs "hardcore" gamer thing is just dumb. I've been playing PC games and building my own machines since the original Wolfenstein. I've spent thousands of dollars in upgrades just to ensure I could play the latest, greatest techdemo game. The bottom line is, I like games of all types - from the simplest online Flash puzzlers to the melt-my-videocard-to-the-MB graphically extravagant FPS. So, I guess that makes me a "hardcore" gamer. That being said, there is nothing wrong with consoles. They are simply another variant in the world of video games. If you can't find fun in a console because of this idea that they are only for "casual" gamers, then you are seriously missing out.