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??? Console + accessories + other + LIVE + TV +??? > $1,000 in 3 years my friend.
Akk - just realised we're talking dollars here, not pounds sterling (my bad), so if you really wanted to keep up then it could get to £500 ($1000).
I was gonna say that you don't upgrade most of that every time. I wouldn't upgrade my TV just for a new console, for example, and the only accessory I would buy would be a second pad. And I'd stay the heck away from Live. Now, I spent £1500 (I guess about $3000 - jeepers!) on my last PC, which included a monitor (so I guess that's the same as the TV). It was a big splash out which has had me switching from having lots of fun to questioning my sanity and back again.
Of course, that says nothing of the hassle of doing the research and fitting the components (if you build it yourself).
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that consoles generally have longer life at a specific spec than PCs. My PC will gradually go out of date as new components are released that surpass it for the same price. However a console (say the 360) will stay in date until a new one is released, and then developers will switch to the new one. Not all at once, of course, but in a fairly short time.
What this means is that, if I buy a 360 now, I know that any games released for the 360 will work on it. I also know that the average spec of the 360 won't have moved on when I come to buy that game I want in a year's time.
This is a concern for the PC. Now, I'm not saying that everyone should switch to a console right now - note that I haven't switched myself. What I'm saying is that the hassle (and potentially the cost, depending on a number of factors) of putting a PC together is greater than with a console.
So what can PC developers do about this? A number of things, but it all boils down to making it as cheap and as easy to run PC games as console games. Getting rid of the copy protection is a start. Not targeting the uber-PC is also good. Working together to produce consistent reusable libraries and platforms would also be nice.
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I am a HARDCORE GAMER!!! |
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Oh Lord. People so easy to manipulate |
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Mar 20, 15:14 |
Not so hardcore anymore |
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Re: Not so hardcore anymore |
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Mar 21, 02:44 |
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Mar 20, 16:57 |
XIM |
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Mar 20, 17:49 |
Hey, another one |
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Mar 21, 01:51 |
PC is already a console |
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No subject |
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Noobs |
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Mar 21, 18:42 |
It's not so black and white |
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