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GamesIndustry.biz has more quotes on the state of PC gaming, this time from
Steve Nix, id Software Director of Business Development. Nix feels some of the
hardcore PC gaming audience is shifting to consoles, something id cannot
ignore: "There are plenty of people who are diehard mouse and keyboard
guys that may never go to console, and also right now, if you have the highest
of high-end PCs, you're generally going to get a better visual experience," Nix
said. "There's no console out there that's as powerful as a God machine right
now, with a Quad-Core and a GeForce 8800 - it's very hard for any console to
compete with that."
"So you still have PC players, and some players are just console guys, but have
players moved over? Absolutely. We love PC gaming, and we continue to support PC
gaming - but you can't ignore the market realities and the size of the console
market these days."
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Mar 20, 2008, 10:21 |
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I keep wondering, is it really that the PC market is shrinking or is it just that the console market is exploding? I'd actually be willing to bet that the PC market is even bigger than it was five years ago, just nowhere near how much bigger the console market has become.
I'd be happy to switch over to consoles, and I've been playing exclusively PC games since 1990, but only if the sort of games I'm interested in were developed for them. The problem is that I tend to prefer niche games and it costs too much to develop for consoles.
My favorite game right now (Evochron) was developed by one guy in his spare time. That would never happen on a console. It seems like unless you can sell a couple hundred-thousand copies minimum, there is no point in developing console games.
One of the ironic things about this is that we were having the same argument in the early nineties when the "16-bit" consoles were released and it was id with Wolf3D that showed action games could be better on the PC. It was also id, with their early support of 3D-accelerators with glQuake, that showed 3D games were better on the PC than the next generation of consoles.
Now, we've got WoW that's showing how much better PC games are for online play with MMOGs, but I ****** hate role playing games.
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Mar 20, 19:48 |
I am a HARDCORE GAMER!!! |
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Mar 20, 20:18 |
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Mar 20, 12:50 |
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Mar 20, 09:07 |
Engine vs. Game |
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Mar 20, 09:12 |
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Mar 20, 09:24 |
Mouse and keyboard |
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Mar 20, 09:51 |
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Mar 20, 10:06 |
Reason? |
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Mar 20, 10:21 |
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Mar 20, 18:07 |
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Mar 20, 11:47 |
Another one bytes the console. |
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Mar 20, 11:50 |
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MyRealName |
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Mar 20, 11:55 |
Oh Lord. People so easy to manipulate |
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Mar 20, 19:56 |
Re: Oh Lord. People so easy to manipulate |
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Mar 20, 12:01 |
Why Leave PC? |
Engine101 |
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Mar 20, 12:11 |
Begging the question |
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Mar 20, 12:14 |
Re: Begging the question |
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Mar 20, 12:16 |
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Mar 21, 04:37 |
Re: Begging the question |
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Mar 21, 14:20 |
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Mar 25, 05:15 |
Re: Begging the question |
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Mar 20, 12:51 |
No subject |
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Mar 20, 12:55 |
No subject |
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Mar 20, 13:22 |
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Mar 20, 13:20 |
No subject |
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Mar 20, 13:57 |
Sigh... |
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Mar 20, 14:10 |
Re: Sigh... |
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Mar 20, 14:29 |
Re: Sigh... |
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Mar 20, 15:17 |
Re: Sigh... |
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Mar 20, 15:50 |
Re: Sigh... |
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Mar 20, 18:24 |
Re: Sigh... |
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Mar 20, 14:39 |
Re: Sigh... |
Krovven |
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Mar 20, 14:44 |
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Mar 20, 14:42 |
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manic half |
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Mar 20, 15:00 |
Re: Sigh... |
Jerykk |
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Mar 20, 15:06 |
Re: Sigh... |
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Mar 20, 18:19 |
Re: Sigh... |
Creston |
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Mar 20, 15:14 |
Not so hardcore anymore |
Ronin |
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Mar 20, 15:59 |
Re: Not so hardcore anymore |
Jerykk |
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Mar 20, 16:06 |
Re: Not so hardcore anymore |
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Mar 20, 16:34 |
Re: Not so hardcore anymore |
Jerykk |
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Mar 20, 18:42 |
Re: Not so hardcore anymore |
Ronin |
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Mar 20, 19:23 |
Re: Not so hardcore anymore |
Jerykk |
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Mar 21, 01:50 |
Re: Not so hardcore anymore |
Creston |
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Mar 21, 02:44 |
Re: Not so hardcore anymore |
manic half |
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Mar 20, 16:38 |
No subject |
VoodooV |
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Mar 20, 16:49 |
No subject |
>U |
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Mar 20, 16:57 |
XIM |
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Mar 20, 17:01 |
Re: XIM |
Jerykk |
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Mar 20, 17:04 |
Re: XIM |
Krovven |
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Mar 20, 17:49 |
Hey, another one |
Creston |
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Mar 21, 01:51 |
PC is already a console |
kabloie |
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Mar 21, 04:56 |
No subject |
Katsumoto |
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Mar 21, 05:18 |
Noobs |
Bilbo |
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Mar 21, 05:29 |
Re: Noobs |
Ranger Fish |
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Mar 21, 14:21 |
Re: Noobs |
Creston |
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Mar 21, 14:46 |
Re: Noobs |
Ecthelion |
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Mar 21, 21:54 |
Re: Noobs |
Creston |
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Mar 21, 10:23 |
No subject |
dryden555 |
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Mar 21, 10:48 |
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Ecthelion |
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Mar 21, 14:26 |
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Creston |
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Mar 21, 11:03 |
No subject |
xXBatmanXx |
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Mar 21, 15:16 |
No subject |
cronik |
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Mar 21, 15:24 |
Re: No subject |
nin |
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Mar 21, 18:42 |
It's not so black and white |
zodden |
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