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12. Re: No subject Jan 15, 2008, 14:37 JM
 
Who wants choice and freedom anyway, silly consumers...

When Blu-ray movies are outselling HD DVD movies by more than 2 to 1 it seems pretty clear to me that consumers DID make a choice.


 
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11. Re: No subject Jan 15, 2008, 10:32 nin
 
One wonders how long it'll be before products like that suffer the same fate of ones like DVD Decrypter as any product which circumvents the copy protection of either BluRay or HDDVD discs will be in violation of the DMCA.

Edit: never mind, didn't notice that it was a European product priced in Euros. :p


And you can still get DVDD and it still works.

This is the same battle that's been fought for decades and the customer always wins. I can get devices to remove macrovision when I dub VHS, I can rape and pillage dvd, and I will be able to do the same to its successor. I'm not worried at all...



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10. Re: No subject Jan 15, 2008, 10:25 Pedle Zelnip
 

Once again, http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html ...

I see plenty of freedom and choice. The same I have with my dvds now. To take the media I buy and watch it where I want to watch it, with little effort...

One wonders how long it'll be before products like that suffer the same fate of ones like DVD Decrypter as any product which circumvents the copy protection of either BluRay or HDDVD discs will be in violation of the DMCA.

Edit: never mind, didn't notice that it was a European product priced in Euros. :p

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9. Re: No subject Jan 15, 2008, 08:12 nin
 
Region codes also only exists with Bluray making Bluray the perfect format for studios who want to control every aspect of the their movie releases in detriment of the consumers.

But hey, I guess is popular nowadays to support the format which restricts the consumer the most with higher prices for players and discs due to higher manufacturing costs.

Who wants choice and freedom anyway, silly consumers...


Once again, http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html ...

I see plenty of freedom and choice. The same I have with my dvds now. To take the media I buy and watch it where I want to watch it, with little effort...



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8. blu-ray drm Jan 15, 2008, 07:02 zirik
 
i just googled bluray torrents and there are more bluray rips available than hd-dvd. its like a ratio of 25:1. it clearly shows that the 3 layer protection scheme is not working. but it also means there are more titles available on bluray. hollywood studios are seriously misinformed if they base their decision to move to bluray on the copy protection scheme. its not stopping anyone from breaking their code. BD+ movies are already online.

sadly, the hd-dvd camp seems to be doing a fire sale. the price drop is too little too late. walmart and the porn industry did not pull much influence as first predicted by the media.

 
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7. Re: No subject Jan 15, 2008, 06:32 vacs
 
Both BD and HDDVD use the same base DRm with BD having an additional optional layer, both have been cracked.

Time for some corrections.

Bluray as also HD-DVD support AACS, that's correct but AACS is mandatory only for Bluray, it's completely optional for HD-DVD.

Adding to that Bluray has an additional two (yes 2!) copyprotection systems in place, namely BD+ and BD-ROM Mark.

Region codes also only exists with Bluray making Bluray the perfect format for studios who want to control every aspect of the their movie releases in detriment of the consumers.

But hey, I guess is popular nowadays to support the format which restricts the consumer the most with higher prices for players and discs due to higher manufacturing costs.

Who wants choice and freedom anyway, silly consumers...

 
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6. No subject Jan 15, 2008, 04:13 TB
 
Both BD and HDDVD use the same base DRm with BD having an additional optional layer, both have been cracked.


 
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5. Re: No subject Jan 14, 2008, 23:21 John
 
I don't know what 'line' you are talking about, but Blu-ray has a worse copy protection than HD-DVD.  
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4. XP Jan 14, 2008, 23:19 Bone43
 

I hope M$ does goes thru with the june 30th date to stop sales of XP and makes it Vi$ta only Linux sales should really take off!!!!!

 
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3. No subject Jan 14, 2008, 22:42 Acleacius
 
Isn't this the line that has that horrible copy protection scam built-in, if so why the hell would anyone what this crap even for free?
Well maybe if you could hack the Bios or something I could see some wanting it.
 
The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.That is easy.All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.It works the same way in any country.
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2. Re: No subject Jan 14, 2008, 21:14 NiteX
 
I agree, this is the final sign showing they are about to kick the bucket.

 
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1. No subject Jan 14, 2008, 20:57 nin
 
HD DVD fires back, slashes hardware & software prices.

Time to dump inventory before the big announcement!

AH-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


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