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18. Re: No subject Jan 9, 2008, 08:43 JM
 
a recent survey that showed that '60% of PS3 owners didn't even know it was a blu ray drive, and those that did hadn't used it for that purpose the last 10 times they'd turned the machine on

I always hear about these supposed polls. I guess they should have asked a few more people as I and my friends who own PS3s are all buying and watching Blu-ray movies. In fact, I don't know any PS3 owners who haven't bought at least one Blu-ray movie [insert lame "that's because the PS3 has no games" comment here]. As I stated originally, somebody must be buying Blu-ray movies for it to hold a 2 to 1 sales advantage over HD DVD (3 to 1 and even 4 to 1 in some areas). You think maybe, just maybe, the 8,000,000+ PS3 owners might have something to do with that?


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17. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 23:38 Yakumo
 
You're fucked
Not in a fanboy or monetary way, I've only got my PC and a PS2, no next gen high def gear to lose out on.

I was just really hoping the cheaper, more consumer friendly, region free format would win, and still do.

 
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16. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 23:23 Mega Fantasy Sci-Fi PostApocalyptic MMORTRPFPS 9000
 
then you're a fucking idiot emo jackass who hates the world


I'm sorry, I don't speak retarded.

 
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15. No subject Jan 8, 2008, 22:58 Alak
 
Before I got rid of my PS3 for an un-related reason, the drive broke. When I took it into sony to get it sent away to be fixed, they were pretty adamant about asking if I had used it to watch alot of movies continuously.

The tech guys said that its because the games sample every once in awhile when data is needed. Otherwise they dont do anything. A movie continuously plays, all the time sampling, which its not technically designed for.

I dont know what kinda substance this has, but it seems logical - which would explain the price gap between the PS3 and a stand-alone player.

But I still think the price of any HD format disc is far to expensive for the average consumer.

 
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14. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 22:43 nin
 
Yakumo, you're fucked. Enjoy it.

AH-hahahahahahahahahaha!

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13. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 22:33 Yakumo
 
hddvd still has the most stand alone players in the market, and the most affordable ones too.

Every time I hear this I have the urge to smash something! THE PS3 IS A BLU-RAY PLAYER!!! (Sorry for shouting ) Why does everyone continue to continually ignore this fact like it doesn't have any impact on the format war? Blu-ray movies outsell HD DVD by more than 2 to 1 worldwide. So who do you think is buying all these movies if not PS3 owners? Sheesh!

Little things like I said 'stand alone player' the PS3 is a games console, not a stand alone player,
also there was a recent survey that showed that '60% of PS3 owners didn't even know it was a blu ray drive, and those that did hadn't used it for that purpose the last 10 times they'd turned the machine on' (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=169994)

According to MS their 360 HDDVD addon's outsold all blu ray players on it's own. I'd take that with a pinch of salt, but the same pinch of salt I save for PS3 comments, and people buying the 360 drive were obviously only buying it for one thing, movies, HD DVD is the consumer choice, blu ray's just being rammed down peoples throats by the corporate DRM brigade.

 
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12. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 21:54 PHJF
 
It's been several years since I've seen a movie worth owning, regardless of format.

then you're a fucking idiot emo jackass who hates the world
 
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11. No subject Jan 8, 2008, 20:44 Mega Fantasy Sci-Fi PostApocalyptic MMORTRPFPS 9000
 
It's been several years since I've seen a movie worth owning, regardless of format.

 
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10. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 20:19 PHJF
 
Discs still $30? Yes? Ok, back to regular old DVD.  
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9. No subject Jan 8, 2008, 18:35 Alak
 
How will the HD format war affect my life? It wont. I still collect DVD's. And so do 99% of the people who buy any format.

I have both a Blu-Ray player, and an HD-DVD (XB360) player. I paid nothing for either, or any of my movies. People just seem to like to buy them for me on holidays.

 
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8. No subject Jan 8, 2008, 15:59 zirik
 
one thing i really liked about HD DVD is the no region coding of all discs.

 
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7. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 15:32 nin
 
The additional copy protection which goes above and beyond the levels of DVD and HD-DVD

http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html

Problem: solved. Media: Where ever you want it.








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6. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 15:01 JM
 
hddvd still has the most stand alone players in the market, and the most affordable ones too.

Every time I hear this I have the urge to smash something! THE PS3 IS A BLU-RAY PLAYER!!! (Sorry for shouting ;)) Why does everyone continue to continually ignore this fact like it doesn't have any impact on the format war? Blu-ray movies outsell HD DVD by more than 2 to 1 worldwide. So who do you think is buying all these movies if not PS3 owners? Sheesh!


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5. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 14:43 Smoove
 
It's amazing to me that for all the bitching on the Internet about DRM and copy protection, people seem so happy the HD disc format with the most copy protection is the victor.

There are two things keeping me from being happy with the Blu-ray win:

1. The additional copy protection which goes above and beyond the levels of DVD and HD-DVD. This has already caused some movies to be unplayable in players that didn't support the updated copy protection format. Neither DVD nor HD-DVD had me worry whether a disc would play in my player; Blu-ray does.

How happy are you going to be when you buy the latest Blu-ray release and sit down with your family for movie night, only to discover the powers that be won't let you play it because your copy protection is out of date. Before you say all it takes is an update, you're assuming that an update is actually available. If your manufacturer doesn't release an update or your player can't be updated, you'll have to buy a new player if you want to watch the movie. Of course you won't find out it doesn't work in your player until you put the disc in, and once the package is opened, good luck returning it for a refund.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071007-new-blu-ray-discs-with-bd-drm-failing-to-play-on-some-devices.html


2. Blu ray still has not settled on a final specification. It's great they updated the specification to support the level of features that HD-DVD has always had, but I'm not thrilled about buying a Blu-ray player until they have a final spec out, because it could be outdated in weeks or months. If your player doesn't support the latest spec, you're not going to be able to enjoy all the special features on the disc. Both DVD and HD-DVD had set specifications from the start, so this was not an issue. Hopefully Blu-ray will finalize with the 2.0 spec, but I'm not holding my breath.

 
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4. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 14:12 Krovven
 
`Paramount's current plan is to continue to support the HD DVD format,'' Brenda Ciccone, a spokeswoman for Paramount, said in an e-mail today.

She has to say this, they are under contract. Assuming this clause does exist, Paramount has to seriously consider walking out of the contract.

hddvd still has the most stand alone players in the market, and the most affordable ones too.

Time will change that. Saving $100 on a player for a format that won't exist in coming years is stupid. Pay the extra $100 on a player that will supported.

Any educated customer would be crazy to buy an HD-DVD player now.


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3. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 14:11 nin
 
but they do not have any current plans to abandon hddvd yet.


Thedigitalbits says otherwise, and they've been spot on with every one of their "predictions".

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2. Re: No subject Jan 8, 2008, 13:54 Yakumo
 
This story has been discredited by paramount already ( http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=aQMGgh2LV_bU&refer=japan ) but the bluray fanboys and PR teams are still submitting it to sites all over the place that don't know better.

yes the clause exists, it would be a bit strange for it not to really, but they do not have any current plans to abandon hddvd yet.

hddvd still has the most stand alone players in the market, and the most affordable ones too.

 
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1. No subject Jan 8, 2008, 13:39 Fion
 
Paramound leaving HD-DVD now too? Yea.. HD DVD has lost the HD war. Blue Ray is clearly more expensive, but prices are dropping all the time, and the quality is clearly better.

 
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