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Halo 2 Delay - Blame the Boobies

Halo 2 delay due to "partial nudity" on EuroGamer offers an explanation for the latest delay to the Windows Vista edition of Halo 2, saying some partial nudity was included in the production code. The "problem" will be solved by an automatic update upon logging in to Windows Live, and there is also a manual patch in the downloads area on the Halo 2 for Windows Vista Website. Here's the Microsoft statement about all this:

"It has come to our attention that an unfortunate, obscure content error which includes partial nudity was included in our initial production of Halo 2 for Windows Vista.

"As such, we have updated the initial game packaging at retailers with a label, so customers are aware before purchasing the game... This packaging will only be labelled for the initial run of games; subsequent shipments will not include the content."

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86. Re: Sexual Morality May 29, 2007, 00:51 Prez
 
Fuck christians, for not having the sense to do their own parenting, but then I'm sure to sue whoever it is out there that won't do it for them! All kids in such a family I guess, must wear tit pasties all the time. God forbid they look at them as their intended as a beautiful form! Naked is okay to show kids, sex is not. DUHH!

Oh and BTW, the whole reason that America is a sexually repressed nation is due squarely to religion and more specifically Christianity.
Religion will be the doom of us all as it already has been for so many years.


trainwreck, FALSE DICHOTOMY.

1) Sexual morality mitigates disease and unwanted pregnancy? No it doesn't. Social conservatives seek to pretend that sex doesn't exist. Hence abstinence-only sex education. Hence Christian opposition to contraceptives. If you really want to mitigate disease and unwanted pregnancy, then allow people the tools to manage their sexual health -- contraceptives and education. That's the only way. The religious, social conservatives' way is to deny human sexuality and deny education.

2) You don't have to be stoning anyone in public to be sexually repressed. What the fuck does stoning have to do with this anyway? America is sexually repressed because it keeps tighter reign on a bare breast than a bloody gunshot wound, as if sex, the conduit of human reproduction, is worse then violence, the means by which people's lives are taken. That's sexual repression. Your moral relativism ("look, they're worse, so we're not bad at all!") is childish.


All this in a Halo 2 thread?! Obviously the intelligence and maturity level here on Blues hasn't changed much in my absence. Nice to be reminded why I generally stay away from Bluesnews nowadays.
 
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85. Re: Sexual Morality May 29, 2007, 00:45 Prez
 
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84. All this fuss May 27, 2007, 05:37 Wayne Francis
 
In interest of full disclosure I'm an agnostic myself. I'm also a former US Marine serving from 88-94 but now live outside the USA.

There 1 big problem I see in America.
People with their head in the sand bitching about the wrong topics, like an ass expossed in a game editor instead of why we seem to think its ok to let so called political minorities dictate how America runs and just wave it off by saying "They aren't normal American's don't associate them with us".

If you don't want the vocal policital minority to be associated with you get off your ass and vote. Right your politicians and make it clear if they vote for, what you concider, extremist view then you will not vote for them. Right now I can tell you it is only the right wingers that do this effectively.

I may live in Australia but according to numbers I vote more then half of you. If demographics are right I probably vote more then 80% of you.

I joined the Marines to fight for ideals layed down by our founding fathers and now watching those ideals destroyed by a president and ultra right wing religious zealots who think that "In God We Trust" was written into our Constitution when it was first written up and not simply stamped onto money 70 odd years ago because no one wanted to object to it.

The rest of the world thinks the USA is a bad joke. Powerful but bad. Get your heads out of the sand. Send Microsoft letters telling them that you won't buy the game now. Send the people that complain that nudity in games is like this is mass murder. More importantly tell your politicians if they feel the need to focus on stupid issues like this that you will make sure to tell everyone you know how they are more concerned with pulling a picture of an ass out of a game editor then they are about what ever issue they are ignoring.

Is relegion a bad thing? I don't think so. I'll lay my life on the line to defend everyones right to practice their religion. What I will not except is a few people trying to ram their religion down everyone elses throat.

Christianity isn't bad. There are just a few bad vocal Christians out there. If you are Christian and don't want to be lumped in with the vocal ones then be vocal yourself so people know what the mainstream Christian views are.

 
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83. Re: Not this world May 26, 2007, 18:17 CreamyBlood
 
I'm almost done Prey. Pretty damn good game for what it is.

No, it doesn't. Ever wonder why so many people are freaked out by Grand Theft Auto and not by, say, Halo or a WW2 FPS? The reason is because the former is more or less disrespectful when it comes to violence; that is, the game allows and encourages people to slaughter the innocent (ie little old ladies) and the good (paramedics, police, etc.). The latter two examples, on the other hand, encourage the use of violence to overcome a defined "bad guy" (evil aliens, Nazis, etc.) who must be stopped through the use of violence.

Trainwreck, You're kind of an idiot. I'm an athiest and have good values (according to me). You can play the game how you want, I played it with someone that finds neglected children for a living but he liked to beat up the hookers. (Stress relief?) I tried to be the 'good guy'. Regardless, I thought it was one of the best video games that I ever played.

You can analyze it all you want from some kind of moral perspective, but as a game, it's brilliant.

And Trainwreck, you are a wreck. Just because you have some kind of weird thoughts regarding sex and defecation, it's normal for humans and all life on this planet, past and present to pro-create.

Everything from a flower to a blowfish to a human fornicates in some fashion. No matter how much you try and put some kind of ambiguious morality on it, it's just a fact. Living organisms breed. Personally, I'd like it if people like you didn't.

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82. Re: Not this world May 26, 2007, 16:16 L0cky
 
The answer shouldn't be merely to hand every kid a condom but rather we should try to cut down on young teens having sex at all.

I know many Christians and not one of them wants to bamboozle their kids when it comes to sex; they just want to try and instill a sense of values so that, ideally, they don't have sex until they're married and ready to do so.

Kids are going to have sex. People have sex. It's a hard fact of life. Proposing the solution to unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease is abstinance is like saying the solution to food poisening is starvation; and anyone thinking 'not having sex won't kill us' is not thinking it through.

Teaching our kids abstinence and not teaching them safe sex is damning the kids who do have sex to their consequences without ever letting them know that there were ways they could have protected themselves. That's pretty unfair right?

And many of those who don't have sex without having it explained to them will grow an unrequired sense of shame whenever they resist their natural urges.

These are probably the kids who grow up and become parents that are too ashamed to talk about sex enough to teach their kids about it, thus repeating the cycle.

Besides, do you really think teaching a kid who is old enough to have sexual urges, on the basics of contraception and sexually transmitted diseases is really going to 'bamboozle' them? Maybe you should give them a little more credit.

 
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81. Re: Not this world May 26, 2007, 13:25 Trainwreck
 
Believe it or not, I do agree with you.

I agree with you too for the most part. You're the most reasonable and mentally stable Blue's News poster I've read. Congratulations, you win 1,000 Schrute Bucks. Redeemable for a five minute break.

you also would not sell violent games to an 8 year old. your example is the worst i have ever seen here.

No, that's exactly my point - depending on the way violence and sex are treated, it can be appropriate, even for children to play. However, both subjects can also be treated in such ways so as to make the media unfit for any human consumption.

 
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80. Hypocritical Bastards May 26, 2007, 10:27 Woody
 
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79. Re: WTF... May 26, 2007, 09:25 ibm
 
Yeah seriously, some posters need another outlet for social interaction and not save it all up for posting on bluesnews.

More examples also in the "Starcraft II Announced" thread.

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78. WTF... May 26, 2007, 07:56 Pr()ZaC
 
...and I thought we were talking about bad games...  
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77. Re: Not this world May 26, 2007, 07:10 Optimaximal
 
Just to throw a further spanner into the debate...
The latter two examples, on the other hand, encourage the use of violence to overcome a defined "bad guy" (evil aliens, Nazis, etc.) who must be stopped through the use of violence.
*BZZT* in 99% of the WW2 games out there, you are not killing Nazis - you are shooting conscripted German soldiers who in the real world didn't want to be there as much as the allied grunts.

I don't think i've played a WW2 game that didn't revell in the ability to shoot Germans or their allies, who, like most troops in most conflicts, are just at the behest of their power mad generals.

 
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76. Re: Not this world May 26, 2007, 05:42 Halo
 
What about Amsterdam?

I get the joke but really they have less than a million people there. I doubt they could make as much as the US in revenue. Also they don't have a porn industry they have an actual Sex industry.

 
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75. Re: Not this world May 25, 2007, 23:46 maplebob
 
No other country has a billion dollar porn industry like us.

What about Amsterdam?

 
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74. Re: Not this world May 25, 2007, 22:43 zirik
 
No, it doesn't. Ever wonder why so many people are freaked out by Grand Theft Auto

it took 4 games in a series and one hot coffee mod to freak americans out of their pants. one of them involved sex. go figure.

Expanding on my example above, would you allow an 8 year old to stop playing cops and robbers and instead start dry humping the neighbor girl?

you also would not sell violent games to an 8 year old. your example is the worst i have ever seen here.

 
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73. Re: Not this world May 25, 2007, 22:37 zirik
 
Sexual repression by the average every day person doesn't exist to the level that it seems like it

we see more violent shows on television than sex. we have a ratings system passed by legislators and approved or ignored by the public that monitors how many nipples are shown on television. yet you have nothing to monitor gunshot wounds. follow that up profits made by the porn industry. repression or hypocracy?

You don't have to be Christian to be a Republican

not according to karl rove. he orchestrated the religious campaign that got bush a second term.

We're middle of the road at worst. Europe is more liberal than we are sexually, but China isn't. India isn't.

china and india have a large population of homosexuals and transgenders. they are treated with more tolerance than their counterparts in the united states. dont believe me? go read the news or visit hong kong when they have beauty pageants for homosexuals. in india they have a thriving community of eunuchs. you will never see that in the states.

 
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72. Re: Not this world May 25, 2007, 22:19 Tehol
 
so where is the booby pic?

 
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71. Re: Not this world May 25, 2007, 20:27 Dwarf_Snowninja
 
The error image made me think; remember when it was funny as hell to moon people (or maybe that was just me and my puerile humor)?

 
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70. Re: Not this world May 25, 2007, 20:24 Masa
 
But defecations most certainly is a bodily function, and it's a bit more deliberate than blood circulation, hence more apt for a comparison to sex (though it's still an invalid comparison as I pointed out).

Okay, but sex is just another biologically natural and normal function for a human to do.

So, kill yourself! Life is most certainly not cheap.

Nah, I rather like and enjoy my life. Though I'm glad you don't think life is cheap. Don't loose that view.

However, as you also pointed out, there is a human slave trade still present in the world, so you at least realize people can be treated as a cheap commodity. Even in the West, this occurs to quite an extent (see how wars are conducted for one reason or another, or the intervention of a Western power on another people's behalf).

In light of this fact, don't you think that treating sex with more respect and responsibility would be appropriate?

Personally, I do; but not everyone in the world does. If you really want an idea of how extensive human trading is, in the context of traded commodities, the British have printed some of the best and most reliable information on the subject from their time running Hong Kong and dealing with the triads there.

As a person born, raised, and sent into the world with Western ideals regarding humanity, it's amazing the extent of depravity some people are willing to go.


Also, you said just before this that life is cheap, then use the word "draconian" (rightfully too, in my opinion) to describe China's one-child policy.

Actually, I did use the word "draconian" in reference to China's population control policy.

If life really were cheap, who would care about the the killing of baby girls?

Lots of people. It's not hard to find some non-governmental organization or aid group who work for the benefit of ill-begotten children or the worse-off in the world's worst places.

What's, that, the sex slave trade?

Ah, not necessarily. People are transported into North America and Europe all the time as illegal immigrants to perform some function or another. It varies.

There are people in the SW United States who make a living off getting Hispanics illegally into the country, or taking their money and just dumping them in the desert.

Something around 30,000 Chinese a year come from that country to the United States illegally as well. Some work as cheap labor, prostitutes in a China Town, word for local crime syndicates.

I'm sure it does, but you must recognize the fact that it's far less prevalent in, say, North America than it is in Asia.

I don't know for sure. Though I've always wondered if my being largely unaffected by such things happening in this country is due to a larger scheme to bury such societal ills.

Indeed, but on the whole, people attach a huge degree of importance to sex. If you're going to go out and have fun with some f-buddies of yours, don't let my inhibitions get in the way of your fun, but PLEASE know who you're going to be jumping in the sack with so as to avoid any unwanted feelings of resentment.

Believe it or not, I do agree with you.

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69. Re: Not this world May 25, 2007, 19:45 Lorcin
 
( too bad it's not working )

qft

Vegetarian Logic: We'll save animals by eating their food
 
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68. Re: Not this world May 25, 2007, 19:43 Trainwreck
 
Jeez, you made the comparison, not me. Blood circulation is a vitally important, yet just another bodily function as well; I hardly equate it on the same level as relieving one's self.

But defecations most certainly is a bodily function, and it's a bit more deliberate than blood circulation, hence more apt for a comparison to sex (though it's still an invalid comparison as I pointed out).

Yes, but in a world of 6 billion people, life is particularly cheap.

So, kill yourself! Life is most certainly not cheap.

Particularly in heavily populated countries such as China where daughters are readily killed to adhere to a draconian one-child policy.

In light of this fact, don't you think that treating sex with more respect and responsibility would be appropriate?

Also, you said just before this that life is cheap, then use the word "draconian" (rightfully too, in my opinion) to describe China's one-child policy. If life really were cheap, who would care about the the killing of baby girls? In fact, why not open up centers all over China which can safely dispose of such unwanted mistakes?

This sort of activity exists in every continent to more or lesser degree.

What's, that, the sex slave trade? I'm sure it does, but you must recognize the fact that it's far less prevalent in, say, North America than it is in Asia.

Whatever emotional connotations a person attaches to sex is as relative as peoples' opinions.

Indeed, but on the whole, people attach a huge degree of importance to sex. If you're going to go out and have fun with some f-buddies of yours, don't let my inhibitions get in the way of your fun, but PLEASE know who you're going to be jumping in the sack with so as to avoid any unwanted feelings of resentment. The chances are high that whatever chick is willing to be a "friend with privileges" is also most likely expecting something more than sex from you at the least, and is self-destructive at worst.

 
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67. Re: Not this world May 25, 2007, 19:24 Masa
 
Oh please - having sex with someone is far more serious than taking a dump or peeing on a tree.

Jeez, you made the comparison, not me. Blood circulation is a vitally important, yet just another bodily function as well; I hardly equate it on the same level as relieving one's self.

For one thing, it can create life.

Yes, but in a world of 6 billion people, life is particularly cheap. Particularly in heavily populated countries such as China where daughters are readily killed to adhere to a draconian one-child policy.

It can also spread disease, screw with people's emotions in good or bad ways (especially, but not limited to, women), or it can even be exploited and people can be taken away as sexual slaves (especially in Asia).

This sort of activity exists in every continent to more or lesser degree. Whatever emotional connotations a person attaches to sex is as relative as peoples' opinions.

Sorry, the world is a morally decadent place.


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