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Re: Bond is definitely back... |
Nov 20, 2006, 18:52 |
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I think that's just because Craig is a much better actor than Connery was when he played Bond. Obviously, we disagree about this...
I hadn't thought of it like that, but yes, I agree that he is better than Connery all the way around. Then again, looking back now, I'm rather glad that kind of cheesy acting was finally left behind (or secluded to a genre or as another style of movie making, not THE style preferred).
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Re: Bond is definitely back... |
Nov 19, 2006, 09:17 |
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that's just because Craig is a much better actor than Connery was when he played Bond. Bingo. The reason Connery's Bond is regarded as the benchmark is much more a reflection of the character and the movies rather than Connery's acting ability.
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Re: Bond is definitely back... |
Nov 18, 2006, 19:26 |
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Which is EXACTLY what IAN FLEMING (edit : d'oh) wanted James Bond to be : a bedside story. Lots of over the top junk and hot women getting nailed by the hero.
I don't mind them reinventing Bond, but blaming Bond for being what he was intended to be seems kinda odd?
If you want to know what Ian Fleming wanted Bond to be in the movies, just watch Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and, I believe, Thunderball. Fleming was literally on the set when these movies were made and died either during or shortly after Thunderball--IIRC (Forgive any mistake here--it's been a long time.) Connery was hand-picked picked by Fleming, as I recall, for the role of Bond, but the studio preferred Roger Moore, who was, fortunately for Connery, too busy doing "The Saint" stuff at the time to think much of the offer. At any rate, physically, Connery was the closest match to the Bond Fleming wrote about--no question about it.
After Fleming died the Bond movies really got ridiculous and far out--including technology Fleming had never mentioned or involved in his stories. Even in Goldfinger an industrial laser is featured where a buzz saw was employed in the book. Later on, glitzy tech toys would completely overshadow everything in the Bond movies, imo--which certainly was not what Fleming intended. It got most ridiculous with Brosnan, of course, but I think that was because the movies veered off onto a glitzy "tech-toy" tangent which Fleming never intended. In all of his books, it was the people and their personalities and their stories that featured far more prominently than the technology he included. In the Bond books the technology served as background enhancing the atmosphere--it never, ever usurped the characters--most especially Bond himself.
Watch those early movies again if you want to see how Fleming envisioned Bond in the movies. IIRC, Fleming demanded to be on the movie sets and to make certain decisions as part of the deal in selling the movie studios the rights to make the Bond films. In the early movies there is a whole lot of dialog that comes right out of the books, too, verbatim--so it's pretty easy to spot Fleming's hand in those films. When Fleming died, the movies changed drastically, and it's fairly easy to spot the differences and the shifts in content and emphasis the longer we move forward in time from Fleming's death.
So, I do not think that Casino Royale is "reinventing" Bond nearly as much as I think it is reinvigorating the original Bond that Fleming had in mind. Clearly, Craig doesn't physically resemble Fleming's Bond at all--any more than Moore. But intellectually and spiritually, Craig's characterization is probably the closest to what I recall of the books that I have ever seen in film, including Connery, and I think that's just because Craig is a much better actor than Connery was when he played Bond. Obviously, we disagree about this...;) The stars of Casino Royale were Bond and the people that crossed his path--everything else played second fiddle, including technology--and I think that's just what Fleming intended.
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Re: No subject |
Nov 18, 2006, 12:29 |
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Second, Die Another Day is not The World is Not Enough. While TWINE wasn't fantastic, it wasn't nearly as bad as DAD. Apologies, you're absolutely right. I did actually remember this afternoon, but wasn't near the internet to correct it 
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Re: Bond, James Bond... |
Nov 18, 2006, 02:13 |
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Most people that have read the books (myself included) acknowledge that Timothy Dalton was a very fitting Bond in the vein of the Flemming novels. Some people seemed to just have a general dislike for him though
He carried Bond well in the '80s, for the two movies he starred in. Personally, I just didn't like Dalton as an actor. Ironically, I had the same feelings toward Brosnan before he took over the role of Bond - didn't much care for him as an actor.
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Re: Bond is definitely back... |
Nov 17, 2006, 20:24 |
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instead of a sissified gigolo surrounded by high-tech toys and muppet support staff
Which is EXACTLY what IAN FLEMING (edit : d'oh) wanted James Bond to be : a bedside story. Lots of over the top junk and hot women getting nailed by the hero.
I don't mind them reinventing Bond, but blaming Bond for being what he was intended to be seems kinda odd?
Creston
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Bond is definitely back... |
Nov 17, 2006, 18:17 |
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I've seen all of the films and read the books, too, and this Bond film I think is probably the very best by far. Craig does Bond a justice the movie character has never had--he isn't prissy, he doesn't make it through the entire film with nary a hair out of place (like Brosnan managed a couple of times), and best of all he's a good actor who actually brings some depth and dimension to the role--instead of someone attempting a bad Connery imitation.
Certainly--he's not Sean Connery--but then I don't think Connery could have ever played the Bond that Craig portrays. This is the first Bond film I've ever seen from which I walked away *liking* Bond himself as a character (never disliked Bond, of course, just never remember liking him), and Craig achieves his likability as a real "man's man" instead of a sissified gigolo surrounded by high-tech toys and muppet support staff. M was great and Q-branch was thankfully absent altogether.
The movie will keep you riveted to your seat for the full duration, and the fact that it manages to do that with nary a gratuitous sex scene or strings of gratuitous cuss words stands as a reminder of what quality films can be like. I was so entertained and enthralled by the movie that it wasn't until the drive home that it hit me that I hadn't even noticed the lack of T&A or people saying "*uck" this and "*uck" that...;) I'd give it five stars--Casino Royale is a class act. Craig is off to great start. The best Bond films may be yet to come.
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Bond, James Bond... |
Nov 17, 2006, 17:55 |
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Looking forward to seeing if they can really revive the Bond franchise. I think Craig might be just the kind of guy to pull it off. Sounds like he is portraying a more realistic and gritty Bond. Most people that have read the books (myself included) acknowledge that Timothy Dalton was a very fitting Bond in the vein of the Flemming novels. Some people seemed to just have a general dislike for him though, hopefully Craig won't meet the same fate.
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Re: Bond |
Nov 17, 2006, 17:55 |
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| No, not that I was out for one, but the servers acted up for me too in anyway. |
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Re: Bond |
Nov 17, 2006, 17:37 |
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too bad batman.
btw, who the fxxx thinks that a titanium driver for $180.00 is a bargain?
Did you get a crap?
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In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. / Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder.
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Re: Bond |
Nov 17, 2006, 17:12 |
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too bad batman.
btw, who the fxxx thinks that a titanium driver for $180.00 is a bargain? |
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Re: No subject |
Nov 17, 2006, 17:08 |
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Well, the same way I played all of the GTA games.
A checklist. heheheheh
I am going to use the FAQ from game FAQs and make my own in Excel.
Yeah yeah yeah, you say that now, but get back to me 3 expansions later!
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GW: Nilaar Madalla, lvl 20 R/Mo / Tolyl Nor, lvl 20 E/Mo / Xylos Gath, lvl 16 W/Mo
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: Bond |
Nov 17, 2006, 16:24 |
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heheh yeah, it was the famous "bag of crap" I had it on the screen about 6-7 times to order, and when I clicked BUY it kept crapping out. damn, the one time I actually am able to get the crap (and a chance to win a 61" tv - they gave away 3 last time) and it won't process my order.
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Listening to: http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=53
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In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. / Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder.
Playing: RL |
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Re: Bond |
Nov 17, 2006, 16:21 |
Cynips |
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| Seems the woot-off overloaded the servers. |
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Re: Bond |
Nov 17, 2006, 16:15 |
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I thought as much. I definitely look forward to seeing it.
"They got a message from the Action Man, "I'm happy, hope you're happy too. I've loved all I've needed to love. Sordid details following"
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Re: No subject |
Nov 17, 2006, 16:05 |
xXBatmanXx |
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That's what I was wondering. You still have to look for the mission either way you go about it. *sigh*
Your obsessive/compulsive nature will fit in well w/ GW...
And you can find every mission (and a whole lot more) here:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page
Well, the same way I played all of the GTA games.
A checklist. heheheheh
I am going to use the FAQ from game FAQs and make my own in Excel.
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Listening to: http://www.xmradio.com/programming/channel_page.jsp?ch=53
FUNGS 53
Squirrel Count: Catch & Release: 11 Shot: 22
This comment was edited on Nov 17, 16:20. |
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In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. / Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder.
Playing: RL |
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Re: No subject |
Nov 17, 2006, 16:01 |
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Your obsessive/compulsive nature will fit in well w/ GW...
Heh, I'm the same way. I have to do every quest, even if it'll be my third time with a third character. Heck, I was collecting on one last night that nin and Tyler both had missed.
I've got the old Duron rig running (had a dead video card) but good god is that thing slow. Add to that all the crap that's installed on it and it'll be forever to clean the thing up. Oh, and it's running Windows ME.
Maybe I should just burn it and say the power supply shorted out.
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Re: No subject |
Nov 17, 2006, 15:52 |
Masa |
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While TWINE wasn't fantastic, it wasn't nearly as bad as DAD.
Even Brosnan himself made comments towards being tired of making one-liners in the films. By the sound of things, they're trying update the franchise (much like they did with Batman) and character with something that can be taken seriously.
Frankly, I don't mind the harder edged Bond at all. Really, the movies have historically been pretty farcical since the days of Connery. If anything, at least declining theaters sales are forcing Hollywood off its ass and put out some things that are actually entertaining and not simple rehashes.
If it's complete and finished, why do you need to keep track of it?
That's what I was wondering. You still have to look for the mission either way you go about it.
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Re: No subject |
Nov 17, 2006, 15:51 |
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When you do a mission and complete it, it disappears....so how do I keep track of so many of those damn things!!!!
If it's complete and finished, why do you need to keep track of it?
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Anyway, I wuold like to have a checklist (gamefaqs has one) of all missions. Then I could make sure I don't miss any of the fun/story/side storys, etc.
Your obsessive/compulsive nature will fit in well w/ GW...
And you can find every mission (and a whole lot more) here:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page
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GW: Nilaar Madalla, lvl 20 R/Mo / Tolyl Nor, lvl 20 E/Mo / Xylos Gath, lvl 16 W/Mo
http://www.richardcheese.com/ http://www.myspace.com/richardcheese
This comment was edited on Nov 17, 15:53. |
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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Re: No subject |
Nov 17, 2006, 15:48 |
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I might be missing your point entirely though. The more I think about it, the more I think I am missing it.
Well, you can que up almost all of the pre-searing missions all at once.
I THINK i am done with all of them, but I dno't know, I may have missed some, for instance last night I found one on the BACKSIDE of the catacombs, the gargoyle heads for the nice armor. (Still missing the nice helmet, otherwise I am set.)
Anyway, I wuold like to have a checklist (gamefaqs has one) of all missions. Then I could make sure I don't miss any of the fun/story/side storys, etc.
I will do that on my next char.
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In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. / Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder.
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