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Epic
Announces Epic China Outsourcing Division recaps a talk at the Tokyo Games
Show by Epic's Jay Wilbur in which he comments on Japan's reluctance to embrace
middleware for game development and reveals Epic Games China and plans to
shanghai some jobs to Shanghai as part of this new outsourcing division in an
effort at controlling costs: According to Wilbur, one of the keys to
Epic's carefully managed staff size is the way that the company has outsourced
content. Epic's teams were claimed to be 50% or smaller on average than the
industry norm, with Gears Of War's average team size over its development life
listed as being just 30 developers.
Hence, Epic has initiated the setting up of the Shanghai-based division, which
is run by a team responsible for content development at high-profile studios
including Ubisoft Montreal and Ubisoft Shanghai, reportedly including former
Ubisoft Shanghai studio head Paul Meegan. The people behind Epic China have
worked on titles in the Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six, and Ghost Recon franchises,
and Wilbur indicated that Epic itself is outsourcing to Epic Games China for
low-cost, high quality game assets, but it will also be available to other
developers.
Why China for Epic, and why now? Wilbur explained that the cost per man month
(including overhead) to produce games in North America is around $9,000, and in
Europe and Japan, it's $8,500 per man month. But costs per man month in China
are less than $4,000 - hence Epic's choice to keep its core team at Epic's NC
offices, but outsource significant amounts of art creation for its
games.
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Sep 24, 2006, 01:43 |
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Epic essentially just advertised sweatshops with this. No they didn't, they're not even the same thing.
Next thing Nike will be "Our $400 pair of shoes are made by 11 year olds!" Yeah, that's real f'ing cool. It's called markup and done on just about everything sold in the US.
As far as sweatshops are concerned, Americans often have a contrived view of them. The working conditions are often draconian - compared to what is typical in America - but people fail to understand that they're often the highest paying job around where they're located, and often the best chance at a better life for the worker. I don't particularly care for the notion of a sweatshop either, but condemning their existence simply because of their perceived exploitive nature of their workers isn't very constructive either. If Nike and Rebok and such didn't open up such facilities in those countries, chances are there wouldn't be any such opportunity for those people.
You seem to forget the US is a first world nation and took a few decades to reach our current standard of work and living conditions.
I obviously have vested interest in keeping it in north america because I want a god damn future for this career. Yeah, I understand that. You know, you could also look at it as an opportunity. Since you seem to know which way the wind is blowing as far as the problem with outsourcing is concerned, maybe learn some Mandarin for yourself, make yourself a little more marketable.
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Sep 24, 15:24 |
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Sep 24, 15:50 |
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Sep 24, 16:04 |
How Unequal Can America Get Before We Sn |
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Sep 24, 06:46 |
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Sep 24, 14:03 |
Epic same as every other bastard company |
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Sep 24, 00:16 |
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Sep 24, 00:23 |
well... |
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Sep 24, 00:24 |
Get acustomed |
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