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3DR/DNF Rumors Follow-up

A comment by George Broussard on the Shacknews Forums (thanks Frans and FiringSquad) follows up on yesterday's rumors of departures from 3D Realms that may impact the development of Duke Nukem Forever (story). George offers a snide remark about the site's investigative journalism, and the portion excepted below, which addresses how close the game is to completion, while not actually denying the reported defections have occurred:

Physics and animation systems are virtually finished and shippable. It's simply maintenance and polish from here on out. We haven't needed to make substantial changes to those systems in months. The changes we have made, were made without great effort. Things are never as bleak as they appear, as is often the case when you simply have one side of the story.

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34. Re: No subject Sep 30, 2006, 20:45 AcidDrone
 
I'm still wanting to play this, hope it does come out before xmas.


 
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33. Re: No subject Sep 2, 2006, 19:46 Hump
 
I love dirt like this first thing in the morning. George compared Shacknews to BitchX in his snarky post. As I recall BitchX was pretty damn accurate on the things they reported.

Dont forget fatbabies either. I truly miss that site even though most of the forum whining was limited to low tier brit developer employees. The EA.com fiasco around the time of Majestic saw some people come out of the woodwork and started naming names.

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32. Re: Come to think of it.... Sep 1, 2006, 10:09 wtf_man
 
...They should hire The Romero. He can at least get a product out the door.

And then they can hire Derek Smart for all of his wonderful customer service skills.

/ROFLMAO

 
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31. No subject Sep 1, 2006, 06:44 Ledge
 
"It's simply maintenance and polish from here on out."

ROTFL


 
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30. No subject Sep 1, 2006, 00:30 JoeCool
 
What a shithead

 
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29. Re: Come to think of it.... Aug 31, 2006, 23:51 Camaro76
 
...They should hire The Romero. He can at least get a product out the door.

And then they can hire Derek Smart for all of his wonderful customer service skills.
 
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28. Re: No subject Aug 31, 2006, 22:23 The Half Elf
 
Screw DNF, gimme Rune 2!

 
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27. Re: No subject Aug 31, 2006, 21:15 wtf_man
 
One thing I've always wondered: did the original Duke3d really make so much money for 3DRealms that they haven't needed to make DNF?

They milked the Duke3D license way beyond the PC... console games, hand helds, etc.

Then as hapi said... Max Payne 1 & 2, Duke side scroller, Now Prey also put money in their kitty.

So, they really haven't been hurting for cash... but probably was getting to the point of needing Prey.

 
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26. Re: No subject Aug 31, 2006, 18:18 hapj
 
banddirector: "you'd think they'd get tired of working on DNF and push it out the door"

Or just quit... hence the first story of about 10 of the major developers at 3DR in leaving in the last year.

 
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25. Re: No subject Aug 31, 2006, 17:50 banddirector
 

I wasn't even thinking about Max Payne; I can see how much they must've made. But you'd think they'd get tired of working on DNF and push it out the door ...


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24. Re: No subject Aug 31, 2006, 16:57 hapj
 
banddirector: "did the original Duke3d really make so much money for 3DRealms that they haven't needed to make DNF?"

Probably, yes. About 24 employees. Assume an aggregate load of about $130k/employee/year is around $3mil/year. 10 years since Duke Nukem 3D means they need $30 million total. Count self published Duke Nukem 3D and Rise of the Triad, and producer for Max Payne and now Prey. Say on average they grossed $10/unit means they'd need to have sold in total low millions of units, which sounds entirely plausible across those four titles.

 
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23. Re: No subject Aug 31, 2006, 16:41 Optimaximal
 
I would go as far as saying no EA game recieves anything that could be even remotely classed as 'maintenance' and 'polish'...

 
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22. Re: No subject Aug 31, 2006, 16:00 The Half Elf
 
No no no that only works for EA titles

 
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21. No subject Aug 31, 2006, 15:45 Nameless Again
 
Maitenance and polish? I thought that's what patches do...

 
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20. Re: No subject Aug 31, 2006, 15:42 Tigger
 
I love dirt like this first thing in the morning. George compared Shacknews to BitchX in his snarky post. As I recall BitchX was pretty damn accurate on the things they reported.

I miss BitchX. There hasn't been anyone who could get to the bottom of a story while simultaneously finding 3 others.
 
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19. Re: No subject Aug 31, 2006, 15:19 banddirector
 

One thing I've always wondered: did the original Duke3d really make so much money for 3DRealms that they haven't needed to make DNF?


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18. Re: Aug 31, 2006, 14:57 Dreagon
 
If this thing is sooo f'in close to being finished then why no screenies, vids etc.? I call shananigans!

Because it's not. It's pretty obvious that Remo was simply reporting what those recently departed devs had told him, and they were telling him that the game is in trouble.
 
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17. No subject Aug 31, 2006, 14:43 Hump
 
George and Scott seem to have a good grasp of marketing/producing games but IMO they should probably think about ending the developer thing.

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16. Re: Aug 31, 2006, 14:33 Jedi Knight USMC
 
If this thing is sooo f'in close to being finished then why no screenies, vids etc.? I call shananigans!

 
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15. Come to think of it.... Aug 31, 2006, 14:20 Dreagon
 
...They should hire The Romero. He can at least get a product out the door.  
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