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Mark Rein Knocks Intel, Episodes

[Jul 12, 2006, 9:42 pm ET] - Share - Viewing Comments

Epic's Mark Rein Intel is killing PC Gaming on Joystiq reflects the opinion the Epic VP expressed to the Develop Conference in Brighton that moves by Intel, in particular the promotion of integrated graphics on the motherboard, are hurting PC gaming. Epic VP: Intel is killing PC gaming! Ars Not really is an article offering an alternate opinion, which is probably not the last editorial that will be written on this topic. During his keynote address Rein also had an episode about episodic gaming, calling it "a broken business." According to the report, Rein's remarks met with some heckling from the audience, accusing him of being a "dinosaur" and "self-serving."

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26. Re: Huh? Jul 13, 2006, 00:27 AhrimaaN
 
I think people need to realise that only well established franchises could be made viable in episodic format (ala HL2) the rabid fanbase will pay through their noses for another 4 hours of gameplay with vague hints of story in something like that - even if like in episode 1 90% of the stuff in there is recycled from HL2 - What sort of FPS add-on of any kind doesn't include any new weapons??!?!?!?!?

Sin on the other hand will fail because it has no coherent story of interest whatsoever and barely anything to connect episodes which is of course why you would want to keep buying episodes one after the other.

A new IP would not work in episodic because who is going to be attached to a game enough after 4 hours to want to keep shelling out for it every 8 months or so - especially FPS where they are very very similar.

I have bought both Sin and HL:1 and I regret both of them and won't be buying any more as the 4-5 hours gameplay wasn't worth $20 to me. Sin felt better value because I subsantially felt they did more new stuff for my dollar. No repeated textures, no repeated weapons etc, and a few more fun things like the stat system etc,.. and yeh the combat is like 20 times more fun than half-life (and prey coincidently).

It's interesting about people thinking UT's are episodic, but they have a hell of a lot more design resources and play time than Sin and HL1 combined, and thus I can see the larger price, and they come out less regularly. Zelda is a stretch to call episodic - most of them have been fairly different from eachother.

I don't think Episodic gaming will progress unless the average consumer is dumber than I recognise.

When it boils down to it... I see episodic gaming as a nice meeting point for publishers between demos and full retail as they cant demo a 4hr game... (seriously who would release an episodic game demo before you can buy it for people to try??) They conveniently avoid people actually trying the product before they buy, but entice them with a cheaper price.

Again, much like steam I feel episodic gaming is a huge plus for developers/publishers that does virtually nothing positive for the gamer.

Games on steam are not cheaper than on the shelves (except on pre-release)

anyway thats for another day.

I think pc gaming is going down the gurgler now as well and the only thing that can save it is perhaps vista and moreover some clever developers wanting more than just $$$$ from the gamer.

I don't want to be a part of the bullshit in the pc gaming world anymore when I could buy a console, pay a flat fee and have a game that is full length... not very buggy and heaven forbid I can sell it when I want to get some cash back.

That saddens me but is more and more true as this year goes on.

  
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  1. Jul 12, 21:49 Huh? Cutedge
  2. Jul 12, 22:01  Re: Huh? nin
  4. Jul 12, 22:06  Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  7. Jul 12, 22:14   Re: Huh? Cutedge
  8. Jul 12, 22:20    Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  5. Jul 12, 22:11  Re: Huh? the_culture
  9. Jul 12, 22:43  Re: Huh? Kxmode
  10. Jul 12, 22:49   Re: Huh? DrEvil
  11. Jul 12, 22:52    Re: Huh? nin
  14. Jul 12, 23:02     Re: Huh? DrEvil
  15. Jul 12, 23:20      Re: Huh? Beamer
  16. Jul 12, 23:23      Re: Huh? wtf_man
  21. Jul 12, 23:52       Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  22. Jul 13, 00:06        Re: Huh? Cutedge
  25. Jul 13, 00:24         Re: Huh? MacD
  38. Jul 13, 08:08          Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  39. Jul 13, 08:13           Re: Huh? MacD
  42. Jul 13, 08:27            Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  43. Jul 13, 08:35             Re: Huh? MacD
  45. Jul 13, 09:16              Mark is right HardCore
  46. Jul 13, 09:31               Re: Mark is right Beamer
  30. Jul 13, 01:59         Re: Huh? Kxmode
  32. Jul 13, 02:03          Re: Huh? MacD
  28. Jul 13, 00:53       Re: Huh? Than
  29. Jul 13, 01:45        Re: Huh? Jaenos
  44. Jul 13, 09:09        Re: Huh? Beamer
  47. Jul 13, 13:30         Re: Huh? Than
  49. Jul 13, 15:31          Re: Huh? wtf_man
  50. Jul 13, 23:27           Re: Huh? Than
  51. Jul 13, 23:54            Re: Huh? JaZeeL
  52. Jul 14, 00:21             Re: Huh? StaTik
  54. Jul 14, 09:10              Re: Huh? nin
  55. Jul 14, 09:16            Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  56. Jul 14, 13:12             Re: Huh? Than
  57. Jul 14, 15:10              Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  58. Jul 14, 17:36               Re: Huh? insomnioe
  61. Jul 14, 19:39                Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  59. Jul 14, 18:51               Re: Huh? Than
  62. Jul 14, 20:09                Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  64. Jul 14, 20:40                 Re: Huh? Than
  65. Jul 14, 22:34                  Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  66. Jul 14, 23:31                   Re: Huh? Than
  67. Jul 15, 00:11                    Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  68. Jul 15, 00:24                     Re: Huh? Than
  70. Jul 15, 00:55                      Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  69. Jul 15, 00:34                    Re: Huh? wtf_man
  60. Jul 14, 19:28             Re: Huh? Tango
  63. Jul 14, 20:19              Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  71. Jul 15, 09:00               Re: Huh? Tango
  13. Jul 12, 23:01    Re: Huh? Kxmode
  12. Jul 12, 22:59   Re: Huh? Cutedge
  18. Jul 12, 23:30    Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  19. Jul 12, 23:43     Re: Huh? Beamer
  20. Jul 12, 23:50     Re: Huh? Cutedge
  23. Jul 13, 00:12      Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  24. Jul 13, 00:18       Re: Huh? Cutedge
>> 26. Jul 13, 00:27       Re: Huh? AhrimaaN
  53. Jul 14, 07:21       Re: Huh? Tango
  3. Jul 12, 22:03 Another "Elmer FUD" Kxmode
  6. Jul 12, 22:12 No subject Riley Pizt
  17. Jul 12, 23:26 Confusion Kxmode
  27. Jul 13, 00:31  Re: Confusion MacD
  31. Jul 13, 02:01 That second question... MacD
  33. Jul 13, 03:12  Re: That second question... Masa
  41. Jul 13, 08:27   Re: That second question... MacD
  35. Jul 13, 05:30  Re: That second question... Kamakazie
  34. Jul 13, 05:14 What a fucking hypocrite. Cartman
  36. Jul 13, 07:44  Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Icewind
  40. Jul 13, 08:23   Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Riley Pizt
  37. Jul 13, 08:06  Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Propagandhi
  48. Jul 13, 14:53  Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Fartacus
  72. Jul 15, 14:57 Hmmm Creston
  73. Jul 15, 16:46  Re: Hmmm Da Stylin' Rastan
  77. Jul 15, 20:45   Re: Hmmm wtf_man
  78. Jul 15, 22:11   Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  80. Jul 16, 15:42    Re: Hmmm Tango
  81. Jul 17, 12:04    Re: Hmmm DrEvil
  82. Jul 17, 13:45     Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  83. Jul 17, 14:34      Re: Hmmm Tango
  84. Jul 17, 19:20       Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  85. Jul 17, 20:08        Re: Hmmm Tango
  86. Jul 17, 22:11         Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  74. Jul 15, 16:54  Re: Hmmm Tango
  75. Jul 15, 17:25  Re: Hmmm Krovven
  76. Jul 15, 19:32   Re: Hmmm Creston
  79. Jul 16, 02:11    Re: Hmmm Krovven


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