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Mark Rein Knocks Intel, Episodes

Epic's Mark Rein Intel is killing PC Gaming on Joystiq reflects the opinion the Epic VP expressed to the Develop Conference in Brighton that moves by Intel, in particular the promotion of integrated graphics on the motherboard, are hurting PC gaming. Epic VP: Intel is killing PC gaming! Ars Not really is an article offering an alternate opinion, which is probably not the last editorial that will be written on this topic. During his keynote address Rein also had an episode about episodic gaming, calling it "a broken business." According to the report, Rein's remarks met with some heckling from the audience, accusing him of being a "dinosaur" and "self-serving."

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23. Re: Huh? Jul 13, 2006, 00:12 Riley Pizt
 
He also says that most people won't want to wait 6 months between 6 hour episodes. I'll agree with him that it's a little long for episodes that are a little short. I don't agree with him that gamers are unwilling to wait for any amount of time between episodes and won't go back to play the next episodes, but that's difference of opinion I guess.
I think Marc is right that players won't go back to a game many months down the road if it is essentially the same experience with reused content as the previous one. There are plenty of games in the market competing for the player's attention. If given the choice between something with new content and something with substantially reused content, the consumer will most likely choose the new content unless the episodic game has a really compelling story which he must continue to follow. For all but the most ardent fan, the episodic game will not be compelling.

Assault was in original UT.
But it wasn't in UT2003 which was my point. UT2004 is substantially expanded from UT2003.

i don't include the bonus packs
I include them because they are official content and some of them are even on the second retail release of the game.

extra game modes
You underestimate the significance of onslaught mode. It is radically different from anything in UT2003, and the fact that it was and still is by far the most popular of UT2004's modes played online demonstrates that. It's no mere team deathmatch addition to deathmatch or even something like instagib.

It reuses the engine and tries to come out with more smaller games than if they did full on sequels, which require substantial time and investment due to the fast-changing graphics in the genre.
Episodic games are all about reusing game content to deliver a shorter game experience for a lower price. Game developers like it because it allows them to have more products to sell to the consumer over the same period of time than if they were developing a traditional full length title. What Marc is saying is that because these episodic titles are competing against full length games for the consumer's attention, they don't stand a chance. At the episodic games' current price point I agree with him because the consumer can find plenty of full length games selling at the same or lower prices than the episodic ones.

This comment was edited on Jul 13, 08:05.
 
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  1. Jul 12, 21:49 Huh? Cutedge
  2. Jul 12, 22:01  Re: Huh? nin
  4. Jul 12, 22:06  Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  7. Jul 12, 22:14   Re: Huh? Cutedge
  8. Jul 12, 22:20    Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  5. Jul 12, 22:11  Re: Huh? the_culture
  9. Jul 12, 22:43  Re: Huh? Kxmode
  10. Jul 12, 22:49   Re: Huh? DrEvil
  11. Jul 12, 22:52    Re: Huh? nin
  14. Jul 12, 23:02     Re: Huh? DrEvil
  15. Jul 12, 23:20      Re: Huh? Beamer
  16. Jul 12, 23:23      Re: Huh? wtf_man
  21. Jul 12, 23:52       Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  22. Jul 13, 00:06        Re: Huh? Cutedge
  25. Jul 13, 00:24         Re: Huh? MacD
  38. Jul 13, 08:08          Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  39. Jul 13, 08:13           Re: Huh? MacD
  42. Jul 13, 08:27            Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  43. Jul 13, 08:35             Re: Huh? MacD
  45. Jul 13, 09:16              Mark is right HardCore
  46. Jul 13, 09:31               Re: Mark is right Beamer
  30. Jul 13, 01:59         Re: Huh? Kxmode
  32. Jul 13, 02:03          Re: Huh? MacD
  28. Jul 13, 00:53       Re: Huh? Than
  29. Jul 13, 01:45        Re: Huh? Jaenos
  44. Jul 13, 09:09        Re: Huh? Beamer
  47. Jul 13, 13:30         Re: Huh? Than
  49. Jul 13, 15:31          Re: Huh? wtf_man
  50. Jul 13, 23:27           Re: Huh? Than
  51. Jul 13, 23:54            Re: Huh? JaZeeL
  52. Jul 14, 00:21             Re: Huh? StaTik
  54. Jul 14, 09:10              Re: Huh? nin
  55. Jul 14, 09:16            Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  56. Jul 14, 13:12             Re: Huh? Than
  57. Jul 14, 15:10              Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  58. Jul 14, 17:36               Re: Huh? insomnioe
  61. Jul 14, 19:39                Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  59. Jul 14, 18:51               Re: Huh? Than
  62. Jul 14, 20:09                Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  64. Jul 14, 20:40                 Re: Huh? Than
  65. Jul 14, 22:34                  Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  66. Jul 14, 23:31                   Re: Huh? Than
  67. Jul 15, 00:11                    Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  68. Jul 15, 00:24                     Re: Huh? Than
  70. Jul 15, 00:55                      Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  69. Jul 15, 00:34                    Re: Huh? wtf_man
  60. Jul 14, 19:28             Re: Huh? Tango
  63. Jul 14, 20:19              Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  71. Jul 15, 09:00               Re: Huh? Tango
  13. Jul 12, 23:01    Re: Huh? Kxmode
  12. Jul 12, 22:59   Re: Huh? Cutedge
  18. Jul 12, 23:30    Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  19. Jul 12, 23:43     Re: Huh? Beamer
  20. Jul 12, 23:50     Re: Huh? Cutedge
>> 23. Jul 13, 00:12      Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  24. Jul 13, 00:18       Re: Huh? Cutedge
  26. Jul 13, 00:27       Re: Huh? AhrimaaN
  53. Jul 14, 07:21       Re: Huh? Tango
  3. Jul 12, 22:03 Another "Elmer FUD" Kxmode
  6. Jul 12, 22:12 No subject Riley Pizt
  17. Jul 12, 23:26 Confusion Kxmode
  27. Jul 13, 00:31  Re: Confusion MacD
  31. Jul 13, 02:01 That second question... MacD
  33. Jul 13, 03:12  Re: That second question... Masa
  41. Jul 13, 08:27   Re: That second question... MacD
  35. Jul 13, 05:30  Re: That second question... Kamakazie
  34. Jul 13, 05:14 What a fucking hypocrite. Cartman
  36. Jul 13, 07:44  Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Icewind
  40. Jul 13, 08:23   Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Riley Pizt
  37. Jul 13, 08:06  Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Propagandhi
  48. Jul 13, 14:53  Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Fartacus
  72. Jul 15, 14:57 Hmmm Creston
  73. Jul 15, 16:46  Re: Hmmm Da Stylin' Rastan
  77. Jul 15, 20:45   Re: Hmmm wtf_man
  78. Jul 15, 22:11   Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  80. Jul 16, 15:42    Re: Hmmm Tango
  81. Jul 17, 12:04    Re: Hmmm DrEvil
  82. Jul 17, 13:45     Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  83. Jul 17, 14:34      Re: Hmmm Tango
  84. Jul 17, 19:20       Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  85. Jul 17, 20:08        Re: Hmmm Tango
  86. Jul 17, 22:11         Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  74. Jul 15, 16:54  Re: Hmmm Tango
  75. Jul 15, 17:25  Re: Hmmm Krovven
  76. Jul 15, 19:32   Re: Hmmm Creston
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