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Mark Rein Knocks Intel, Episodes

Epic's Mark Rein Intel is killing PC Gaming on Joystiq reflects the opinion the Epic VP expressed to the Develop Conference in Brighton that moves by Intel, in particular the promotion of integrated graphics on the motherboard, are hurting PC gaming. Epic VP: Intel is killing PC gaming! Ars Not really is an article offering an alternate opinion, which is probably not the last editorial that will be written on this topic. During his keynote address Rein also had an episode about episodic gaming, calling it "a broken business." According to the report, Rein's remarks met with some heckling from the audience, accusing him of being a "dinosaur" and "self-serving."

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20. Re: Huh? Jul 12, 2006, 23:50 Cutedge
 
Episodic games reuse all or most of the content from the previous release

Half-Life 2:ep2 looks to have a lot of different and new assets from the last, but I get where you are going. I would say that Episodic as a definition would be closer to "smaller chunks of a continous game made to allow earlier release for a lower price point with money from early episodes helping fund the game for a more immediate return of investment."

Seasonal and episodic as a view of games like EA sport's line are pretty close. I wouldn't really consider UT2k# to be episodic, although it recycles playmodes and map designs (although not the maps themselves which are remade for each iteration, except from 2k3->2k4).

He just mentions that marketing is a problem because the low wholesale price of episodic games doesn't entice retailers to market them.

He also says that most people won't want to wait 6 months between 6 hour episodes. I'll agree with him that it's a little long for episodes that are a little short. I don't agree with him that gamers are unwilling to wait for any amount of time between episodes and won't go back to play the next episodes, but that's difference of opinion I guess.

What the hell game are you talking about? Surely not UT2004 because not only is it not that similar to the original UT, it has substantially more content (including its official bonus packs) than UT2003. It is not just a few maps that were added, and onslaught and assault modes are major additions especially onslaught mode which adds driveable and flyable vehicles to the game.

Assault was in original UT. I wouldn't consider it new, although the maps are new, obviously. It's exclusion from ut2k3 is why i never got into 2k3.

Yes, UT2k4 has substantially more content than 2k3, and no, i don't include the bonus packs (although it's one thing Epic does right). It still is more of UT2k3 + extra game modes + extra maps with some graphics touchups. Unless I'm remembering wrong. I don't own 2k3. I do own 2k4.

NO! What Episodic content does is reuse the same god damn content NOT just reuse concepts. Hell most games from various developers in the same genre reuse concepts. That doesn't make the games "episodic content."

It reuses the engine and tries to come out with more smaller games than if they did full on sequels, which require substantial time and investment due to the fast-changing graphics in the genre.

 
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  1. Jul 12, 21:49 Huh? Cutedge
  2. Jul 12, 22:01  Re: Huh? nin
  4. Jul 12, 22:06  Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  7. Jul 12, 22:14   Re: Huh? Cutedge
  8. Jul 12, 22:20    Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  5. Jul 12, 22:11  Re: Huh? the_culture
  9. Jul 12, 22:43  Re: Huh? Kxmode
  10. Jul 12, 22:49   Re: Huh? DrEvil
  11. Jul 12, 22:52    Re: Huh? nin
  14. Jul 12, 23:02     Re: Huh? DrEvil
  15. Jul 12, 23:20      Re: Huh? Beamer
  16. Jul 12, 23:23      Re: Huh? wtf_man
  21. Jul 12, 23:52       Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  22. Jul 13, 00:06        Re: Huh? Cutedge
  25. Jul 13, 00:24         Re: Huh? MacD
  38. Jul 13, 08:08          Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  39. Jul 13, 08:13           Re: Huh? MacD
  42. Jul 13, 08:27            Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  43. Jul 13, 08:35             Re: Huh? MacD
  45. Jul 13, 09:16              Mark is right HardCore
  46. Jul 13, 09:31               Re: Mark is right Beamer
  30. Jul 13, 01:59         Re: Huh? Kxmode
  32. Jul 13, 02:03          Re: Huh? MacD
  28. Jul 13, 00:53       Re: Huh? Than
  29. Jul 13, 01:45        Re: Huh? Jaenos
  44. Jul 13, 09:09        Re: Huh? Beamer
  47. Jul 13, 13:30         Re: Huh? Than
  49. Jul 13, 15:31          Re: Huh? wtf_man
  50. Jul 13, 23:27           Re: Huh? Than
  51. Jul 13, 23:54            Re: Huh? JaZeeL
  52. Jul 14, 00:21             Re: Huh? StaTik
  54. Jul 14, 09:10              Re: Huh? nin
  55. Jul 14, 09:16            Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  56. Jul 14, 13:12             Re: Huh? Than
  57. Jul 14, 15:10              Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  58. Jul 14, 17:36               Re: Huh? insomnioe
  61. Jul 14, 19:39                Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  59. Jul 14, 18:51               Re: Huh? Than
  62. Jul 14, 20:09                Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  64. Jul 14, 20:40                 Re: Huh? Than
  65. Jul 14, 22:34                  Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  66. Jul 14, 23:31                   Re: Huh? Than
  67. Jul 15, 00:11                    Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  68. Jul 15, 00:24                     Re: Huh? Than
  70. Jul 15, 00:55                      Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  69. Jul 15, 00:34                    Re: Huh? wtf_man
  60. Jul 14, 19:28             Re: Huh? Tango
  63. Jul 14, 20:19              Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  71. Jul 15, 09:00               Re: Huh? Tango
  13. Jul 12, 23:01    Re: Huh? Kxmode
  12. Jul 12, 22:59   Re: Huh? Cutedge
  18. Jul 12, 23:30    Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  19. Jul 12, 23:43     Re: Huh? Beamer
>> 20. Jul 12, 23:50     Re: Huh? Cutedge
  23. Jul 13, 00:12      Re: Huh? Riley Pizt
  24. Jul 13, 00:18       Re: Huh? Cutedge
  26. Jul 13, 00:27       Re: Huh? AhrimaaN
  53. Jul 14, 07:21       Re: Huh? Tango
  3. Jul 12, 22:03 Another "Elmer FUD" Kxmode
  6. Jul 12, 22:12 No subject Riley Pizt
  17. Jul 12, 23:26 Confusion Kxmode
  27. Jul 13, 00:31  Re: Confusion MacD
  31. Jul 13, 02:01 That second question... MacD
  33. Jul 13, 03:12  Re: That second question... Masa
  41. Jul 13, 08:27   Re: That second question... MacD
  35. Jul 13, 05:30  Re: That second question... Kamakazie
  34. Jul 13, 05:14 What a fucking hypocrite. Cartman
  36. Jul 13, 07:44  Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Icewind
  40. Jul 13, 08:23   Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Riley Pizt
  37. Jul 13, 08:06  Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Propagandhi
  48. Jul 13, 14:53  Re: What a fucking hypocrite. Fartacus
  72. Jul 15, 14:57 Hmmm Creston
  73. Jul 15, 16:46  Re: Hmmm Da Stylin' Rastan
  77. Jul 15, 20:45   Re: Hmmm wtf_man
  78. Jul 15, 22:11   Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  80. Jul 16, 15:42    Re: Hmmm Tango
  81. Jul 17, 12:04    Re: Hmmm DrEvil
  82. Jul 17, 13:45     Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  83. Jul 17, 14:34      Re: Hmmm Tango
  84. Jul 17, 19:20       Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  85. Jul 17, 20:08        Re: Hmmm Tango
  86. Jul 17, 22:11         Re: Hmmm Riley Pizt
  74. Jul 15, 16:54  Re: Hmmm Tango
  75. Jul 15, 17:25  Re: Hmmm Krovven
  76. Jul 15, 19:32   Re: Hmmm Creston
  79. Jul 16, 02:11    Re: Hmmm Krovven


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