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Jun 1, 2006, 23:45 |
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#29 by MindTrigger
Seriously, you think $20 is too much? Jesus, I must make WAY too much money. I buy DVDs all the time for only a little less and I don't think anything of it. This game will last me several hours. Worth 20 bones to me.
I used to work at Microsoft & one of the reasons I quit to open my own business was because of elitist assholes like yourself. I swear to God, you can ask any of those overpaid nerds about homeless people or single mothers on welfare & the answer 100% of the time is for those lazy freeloaders to get a job. You sad fuckers have no sense of the world beyond your own fuckin’ noses. The fact of the matter is that you probably do “make WAY too much money”. But the really, sad fact is that the only good you ever do with it is brag & buy things to brag. I can imagine you driving your cock-mobile, most likely red in color, and wait until 5:30pm when you know that Mr. Jones will be coming home so he can see you washing it & you can wave to him like the obnoxious, superficial piece of shit you really are.
$20 isn’t too much money you pathetic idiot. That’s not the point. The point is that it isn’t fun to wait for Valve to complete the rest of the game & charge us more than retail price for that game & this is after they promised that Steam would lower prices for the customer by removing the middle men & therefore they have lied.
By the way, you’re a fucking moron for buying DVDs all the time. Try netflix, for less than $20 you can get about 10 movies a month on DVD, you fucking ninny!!!
#30 by War:
Oh, and after the credits, the game might look like it has crashed to desktop - it's just doing "something" that will play the Episode 2 preview. Mmmh, City 17 outskirts!
#33: by theyarecomingforyou
4) The GMan says about 3 words at the beginning and doesn't appear again.
Nice work you dumb fucks. How about using Spoiler text you asshole faggot fuckers!!!!
The people comparing Length Quality to games like Pool of Radiance & movies like King Kong or those starring Kevin Costner…
If a game or movie isn’t good, you don’t have to watch it/play it until the end. Also, there are very, very few movies that starred Kevin Costner that were any good at all. Half-life is a well-liked game with enjoyable characters, so using such an actor for your comparison shows us that your comparison is stupid and useless, like yourself.
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Jun 1, 2006, 23:34 |
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Dude, we've seen the "new wave" of digital entertainment every other week.
What's that got to do with the 21st century?
And yeah, it's getting great reviews. From companies given the game for free. These people aren't exactly paying for it.
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Jun 1, 2006, 23:26 |
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Well from all the reviews I have read it sounds like HL2 EP1 kicks some serious asssss.So there we have it 2 new episodic games (sin,ep1) and BOTH have gotten above 8 on gamespot(trusted reviews) and above 8 on ALL major sites.
Maybe marketing will take note and make these 14.99 instead..but from what I have seen, we are witnessing FIRST HAND a whole new wave of digital entertainment...
If they make All 3 EPS as good as first,it means when ALL 3 are done we have 12-20 hours of PREMIUM game here...not bad for 60 bucks...Heck I spend 50 on average and crappy games all the time!!!
bring it on Valve and STEAM thanks for bringing my favorite hobby into the 21st century.
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Jun 1, 2006, 23:14 |
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I'm loving this game. HL was my first foray into the world of PC FPS games. HL2 was the best single player FPS I had played since Star Trek: Elite Force and so far HL2:E1 has been great. I'm just starting the 3rd chapter and have probably played about 2 or 2.5 hours so far. I don't like rushing through games that look as good as HL2 and have been taking my time exploring this one.
Oh yeah, Benson is great but c'mon man, ROBERT CULP!
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Jun 1, 2006, 23:05 |
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Uh, okay... Let's recap the Half-Life 2 storyline and then discuss what we learn in Episode 1. What a completely biased and absurdly unfair comparison... you skimmed over almost everything of HL2, yet your description of Ep1 is an essay in verbosity. Don't even pretend that that was a fair comparison. To say that Ep1 had more plot than HL2 is downright delusional.
One of the main and most interesting plot points of the Half-Life series is the Gman and yet he only has a token role here. The rest of the game is more what I consider padding, what I expect inbetween the plot points. The plot didn't progress, it just did more of the same... nothing was revealed, just more questions asked. The biggest issues I had were the lack of freedom and the gimmicky gameplay:
Covering Ant-lion holes with cars; turning on power generators; firing energy balls into receivers; etc.
Don't get me wrong it's still an alright expansion. It was enjoyable to play (apart from the Citadel section, which I found dreadfully dull). Alyx is a great character and, whilst some of her gestures were a bit crude (they were playing heavily on her flirting with Gordon, like in HL2 at the end), she was actually enjoyable to play alongside. I don't feel ripped off as the asking price was quite cheap. I just would have liked more open space; more plot progression; more gameplay; and new locations. HL2 was vague, and that worked, it's just I need an actual plot to feel involved in. Half-Life is about the conspiracy theories and mystery and yet none of that was touched upon here.
Sorry for the rant.
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Re: No subject |
Jun 1, 2006, 23:01 |
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My time is at a premium, and I imagine, so is the time of a lot of other older gamers.
I just really don't understand this argument. What, do you HAVE to finish a game in one session or something? Do you have some weird fetish against saving at ANY time, even at the end of levels, so you must finish without interruption?
If a game is 20 hours, that means you could not just play five sessions of four hours each? That game is, somehow, "too long?"
I agree that if a game is nothing but filler, it's bullshit, but let's get to Half Life 2 here. The "story" (snort) in that game could easily have been told in about three chapters. So the rest, really, is just filler. I don't hear you bitch about HL2 being too long?
Did you consider Deus Ex (the original) too long as well?
Hey, keep buying the four hour games for 20 bucks guys, the publishers will GLADLY rape what's left of the game industry to suit your short attention spans. Soon all we'll have is 3 hour games.
Btw, I love how ep1 apparently has quite a few bits set in the dark, but here it's "cool" and "edgy", whereas everyone was bitching about shit being too dark in Doom 3.
It's also cool how everyone whines about Bethesda releasing content for a few bucks and that it's WAAAAAYYY too short, but a four hour expansion is just fine?
Creston
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Jun 1, 2006, 22:57 |
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And more of a good thing can be bad too.
For example, Xmen 3: fun summer movie, lots of action, great to take your mind off things, see Wolverine beat up lots of people. yet, if it had been 10 hours long, I would have walked out, even if it was 10 hours of good content.
its like reading War and Peace, a great piece of writing, but there's no way I'll read the whole thing. I just don't have the time.
I'd much rather play a high quality, great 5 hour game, than an okay 10 hour game.
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Jun 1, 2006, 22:33 |
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Took almost exactly four hours for me to finish...while it is a bit short overall, the fact that it's so densely filled with scripted sequences, dialogue, gorgeous maps, puzzles, and good combat makes it worthwhile. Most of the game feels like the 'fun bits'...the payoffs which in other games you get after half an hour of slogging through monotonous corridors shooting the same enemies over and over again come almost constantly and are integrated into the overall gameplay and keep things rewarding. In the GameInformer preview, they talk about the focus of Ep1 as being 'single-player co-op', and they really pulled it off well. Alyx is actually useful as an ally, the acting (voice and animation) are exceptionally well done, and her constant presence is well-executed as a way to give you regular feedback. I've spent $18 far, far worse than this.
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Jun 1, 2006, 22:11 |
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Yeah, I agree that the longer = better mentality is wrong. Want proof? Just watch pretty much any Kevin Costner movie, his attitude is longer is better, and tell me afterwards if you still think longer is better.
What a wonderfully irrelevant example! Funny enough, lines at the DMV are usually pretty long, and i hate those too. I also hate long gaps between episodes of TV shows, long forms to fill out, long classes, and long spaghetti. Therefore, based on these fine examples, one must of course conclude (logically) that longer is not better. 1T'S SC13NC3 MANG LOL!@$%$!#@#
Yes, i think we all know that more of a shitty thing is bad. I think it's absolutely adorable though that you managed to take a logical approach to the argument and yet, somehow, you fucking cuntflap, arrived at a completely illogical conclusion. God, why do i fucking bother.
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Jun 1, 2006, 22:08 |
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I really like it so far. Very cool effects in the citadel and the HDR rocks. I wish all of HL2 had HDR. It feels more carefully crafted somehow, more story, more interaction with npc's and such. I'm only on chapter one and I already think it is worth the 17.95...
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What does it take to run it? |
Jun 1, 2006, 22:03 |
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My rig could barely slog thru some of the bigger maps of HL2 (2.4ghz, 1gb ram, ATI 9800 pro) and the Lost Coast map was practically unplayable. Does this episode raise the bar on system reqs?
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Jun 1, 2006, 22:02 |
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1) There is no plot.
Uh, okay... Let's recap the Half-Life 2 storyline and then discuss what we learn in Episode 1.
Half-Life 2: Following the events at BLack Mesa, the Combine invade and take over the Earth. An indeterminate time later, Gordon is reintroduced. He meets his old friends from Black Mesa after being detected by the Combine as an unauthorized prescence. Following his escape from the city, the safe area is raided by the combine and Dr. Vance is captured. After an adventure along the coast, he meets up with Alyx at a prison facility to rescue Vance. The rescue is botched and damage to a teleport causes them to teleport back to City 17 in a weeks time. During the course of that week the resistance uses the raid on Nova Prospekt as a rallying cry to stage an uprising. Since Vance is located in the citadel, Gordon makes a beeline for it. After fighting numerous street battles he arrives at the citadel and fights his way to the top. After briefly being captured by Breen, he follows him to the Combine teleport reactor. With the help of Alyx he blows up the teleport reactor, critically damaging the citadel. G-Man pulls Gordon out of time and space before being blown up in the resulting explosion.
Episode 1: The Vortigaunts use there own teleportation abilities to pull Alyx out of the citadel, and Gordon out of the G-Man's grasp. They are both deposited in the wreckage at the foot of the citadel where they are rescued by Dog. After setting up communications with Vance and Kleiner, they discover that the Citadel is going to go critical far too soon for them to escape the blast radius. As a result they reenter the citadel in an attempt to temporarily restabilize the reactor core so as to allow enough time to evacuate the city. While in the damaged citadel they encounter what might be the slug creature that Breen is seen talking to at the end of Half-Life 2; whatever it was it was loaded into some sort of pod. Deeper in the citadel Alyx and Gordon discover that the destruction of the teleport reactor caused a chain reaction among the world's other citadels that has prevented the combine from teleporting in reinforcements or even communicating with combine forces outside of Earth. Apparently, the explosion of the reactor core will cause a rip in space-time that will allow the Combine to send out a message, possibly a distress signal, hence why the Combine have been trying to accelerate the explosion. After Gordon stabilizes the core, Alyx is able to get a copy of the Combine message, however translation of the message will have to wait until they can hook up with Vance and Kleiner. Additionally, the receive communication from Mossman, who is searching for some sort of project at what appears to be an arctic base. The transmission ends with the appearance of some sort of previously unseen Combine creature. The pair escape the citadel. After fighting through some zombie invested tunnels, they reach the City 17 surface. A prerecorded message by Kleiner on the City 17 TV screens confirms that the Combine on Earth have been cut off and now is the time for humanity to regroup in preparation for the Combine's inevitable return and counterattack. After a series of adventures, Alyx and Gordon reach Barney who is coordinating the evacuation of City 17 refugees through the trainstation. After evacuating the refugees and having a close call with a Strider, Alyx and Gordon escape via another train. As City 17 fades into the distance the reactor goes critical, tearing a whole in space time above the citadel. Additionally, the pods that might contain the slug creatures are seen being fired from the citadel and spreading out over the countryside. There is a final explosion and the screen fades to white.
Personally, I'd say there is quite a bit of plot to Episode 1, certainly more than Half-Life 2. There are clear objectives, an impetus to do so, elements of the world are fleshed out, and numerous hooks and questions are left for the next episode.
3) The beginning is terribly dull/tedious and the continuation from HL2 is poor (no explanation)
I thought the explanation of the transition between HL2 and E1 was pretty clear. Maybe you didn't like the explanation but the intro definitely explained what happened between the end of HL2 and the start of E1.
The opening levels arn't action packed but I thought they looked incredible, had great atmosphere and had some interesting puzzles to solve.
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Jun 1, 2006, 21:33 |
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Yes, longer is definitely not better. No, longer is not necessarily better. However, more content definitely is. NEway, it would be nice if Ep1 even had a story.
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Jun 1, 2006, 21:21 |
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Yes, longer is definitely not better. My time is at a premium, and I imagine, so is the time of a lot of other older gamers.
If a game with a story line can be done in 5 hours, and its 10 hours instead, that's my time wasted. Its the same reason why I don't want to watch a 10 hour movie.
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Jun 1, 2006, 21:21 |
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Give me 4 more hours of Half-Life 2 over 20 more of Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor (which took me a full week to beat, playing almost nonstop, and was a week I'd really rather have back).
LOL! 
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wtf!? |
Jun 1, 2006, 21:19 |
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This AM it was decrypting and unlocking - now I get home and i still have another 15% to download?
pfffft. I guess I am going to go make supper...I am kinda hungry.
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Jun 1, 2006, 21:18 |
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Well, I found the Ep2 teaser in the install directory... what a stupid bug - I had left it for a couple of minutes to check it wasn't just loading.
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Jun 1, 2006, 21:14 |
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That and I really just don't understand people saying HL2 sucked. Compared to what, I ask? I've bought just about every FPS game to come out for well over a decade, and only a few stick out in my mind. Half Life 1 and Half Life 2 are on that list. To each his own I guess.
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Jun 1, 2006, 21:13 |
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Okay, I've completed it and let me make a few points:
1) There is no plot.
2) It is really short.
3) The beginning is terribly dull/tedious and the continuation from HL2 is poor (no explanation), though it picks up as it goes back to more "human" areas.
4) The GMan says about 3 words at the beginning and doesn't appear again.
5) Alyx is good and doesn't leave your side, though that doesn't really affect the gameplay.
6) Very, very linear. It feels like you have absolutely NO choice in what you do. After playing Oblivion a lot this came as a real shock and greatly reduced my enjoyment of it.
7) It is entertaining.
8) There is no plot.
I was hopeful about this but I guess that was misplaced... I really wish they'd get down to the plot and stop with all this vague bullshit. Vagueness only works when you are really trying to get somewhere, yet there is no indication that Valve even have any idea where they're going - the continuation from the end of HL2 was so dull and uninspired.
NEway, did anyone get to see the trailer for Ep2? After the end credits the game changes display modes and just hung on a black screen... Ctrl-Alt-Del was my friend, as usual. How disappointing.
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Jun 1, 2006, 21:00 |
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Yeah, I agree that the longer = better mentality is wrong. Want proof? Just watch pretty much any Kevin Costner movie, his attitude is longer is better, and tell me afterwards if you still think longer is better.
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