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Sep 13, 2005, 01:28 |
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A mass knee-jerk reaction is nothing to be proud of, boys. Don't get your panties in the bunch. Read the ESRB letter carefully.
Nobody's trying to mess with 3rd party mods. ESRB is concerned with developer created content. They are trying to make sure that everything the developers put on the disk, ESRB is aware of. That's it.
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Sep 13, 2005, 01:21 |
Parallax Abstraction |
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In truth, if not Rockstar, someone else would have made this happen eventually, but yeah I think that at the next E3, a lot of staffers from other publishers will be spitting on their booth. If they had just told the ESRB about the Hot Coffee content that they left in the game, this could have been a lot different.
Parallax Abstraction Ottawa, Canada www.pxa.ca |
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Sep 13, 2005, 01:18 |
The Half Elf |
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Thank you Rockstar for fucking it up for the rest of up!
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Sep 13, 2005, 00:58 |
Dreagon |
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"People put up with these fascists why?"
Because a scary number of people think they are right.
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------ Carpe Papilla
"@Dreagon - Comparing Oblivion to Deer Hunter was just ridiculous and you should be ashamed of yourself... it just made you look like a Class-A cunt." - theyarecomingforyou |
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Re: 3rd party mods |
Sep 13, 2005, 00:21 |
Apathy Curve |
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I'm pretty certain that including "ESRB" and "credibility" in the same sentence constitutes an oxymoron.
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Sep 13, 2005, 00:20 |
Prez |
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Usually audits only serve to keep honest people honest. I see no harm here, especially if it helps fend off more stupid legislation.
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Re: No subject |
Sep 13, 2005, 00:13 |
Parallax Abstraction |
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This is insane. The ESRB needs to slap Take-Two around for leaving in content and not informing them, but this is just pandering to phony idiots like Clinton. If they choke off the ability to mod games, the industry might as well just kiss what little is left of PC gaming goodbye. They should be telling Clinton to sit down and shut up.
Parallax Abstraction Ottawa, Canada www.pxa.ca |
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Sep 13, 2005, 00:09 |
amckern |
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What next?
Is the ESRB Going to rate the patches - so patch 1.04 is rated R becuase it has "some" content, while patch 1.06 brings the rating back down to a PG, or T rating (for those in the USA)
I am also wating on the day that the ESRB Will want to chocke mod teams, and indy devs - that day the gameing world "should" revolt!
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asdf |
Sep 13, 2005, 00:02 |
doktor_tchock |
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i agree with you sixis, but the fact is that now that this has become an issue with the public at large, now that public figures like hilary rodham clinton have decided to exploit the existence of inconsequential (but 'offensive') game mods for political gain, the esrb is backed into a corner. they have to defend themselves.
i just don't know if they would feel that something like that would placate the angry community of irresponsible parents and opportunistic politicians.
i honestly don't know what else they can do, however, since pretty much every moddable game is suspect in the eyes of idiots.
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Sep 12, 2005, 23:59 |
theyarecomingforyou |
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People put up with these fascists why?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Emotinomicon: Emoticons of the Dead |
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Re: No subject |
Sep 12, 2005, 23:11 |
Fingers M |
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| I demand the ESRB shut the hell up. |
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cowards |
Sep 12, 2005, 22:23 |
Bluesreader |
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Seems like the ESRB is willing to sell out its representation of the games industry to the politicians and lawyers. Instead of standing up for developer and publishers' rights and reasonable expectations they only want to cover their asses. The idea that developers and publishers can or should be responsible for what people do to a game after buying it (or stealing it for that matter) is not just ridiculous, it is chilling. Given that lawyers will seek to minimize legal exposure (which the ESRB seems to want to increase for everyone), we could see some very negative things happen to interactive entertainment and freedom of expression.
I'd like to see the industry fight the ESRB on this instead of cedeing them effective censorship authority like the MPAA. The fact that stores won't tolerate A titles already is bad enough. Will we soon have an underground game scene like there is for films?
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Re: 3rd party mods |
Sep 12, 2005, 22:13 |
Squirmer |
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They can't possibly try to control 3rd party mods. The best they could do is pressure developers to make it as hard to possible to make mods, which would suck. I wonder how they plan to control downloadable, online-distributed titles ...
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3rd party mods |
Sep 12, 2005, 22:00 |
Musashi |
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"ESRB remains concerned about third party modifications that undermine the accuracy of the original rating, and we are exploring ways to maintain the credibility of the rating system with consumers in light of modifications of this nature." So, if I walked into the Louvre and glued a page from a porn magazine to the Mona Lisa, would this make the Mona Lisa pornography? What did that old perv Da Vinci think? Won't somebody please think about the children!?
No, serious. Unless they find a capable fortuneteller they will never be able to accurately rate content that doesn't exist at the time of rating.
The quoted statement just defies logic.
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Re: No subject |
Sep 12, 2005, 21:54 |
Sixis |
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They should just do what they do with games that can played online, which is add a little tag to the rating that says that the rating might not apply to online play.
"Game experience may change with 3rd-Party modifications"
Problem solved.
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No subject |
Sep 12, 2005, 21:49 |
D4rkKnight |
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Understandable, a message to developers in light of "Hot Coffee", but this thing about third-party mods is ridiculous.
It stands to reason that if you downloaded a mod you understand its not part of the original game and as such does not reflect the ratings of said game.
The same can be said of any product, modification outside the original intents and purpose of the product can not be held against the developers of it, how anyone could even begin to think that it does baffles me.
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