Out of the Blue

Hudson the wonder dog came into my office last night and started making some hacking noises before the overpowering smell of skunk filled the room. Sure enough my little hunter had another encounter with one of Pepe Le Pew's kin. Though it's been a while since one of these episodes of Wild Kingdom, clearly her technique has not suffered, as she managed to once again close the gap before any shots were fired to catch most of the vile spray in her mouth. This makes clean-up less painful (for me at least) as a little mopping with our nature's Miracle Skunk Odor Remover (no, tomato juice does not work) gets most of the stench off of her, but I am having a hard time getting rid of the smell in my office from where she hacked up some of this stuff right after it happened.

The smell gets positively intoxicating, so updates may get wackier if this persists.

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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 24, 2005, 12:09
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Re: Guild Wars Aug 24, 2005, 12:09
Aug 24, 2005, 12:09
 
You must be playing a different game.

Max damage axe, +25 health, +10% damage?

+30 health + 12 energy items?

AL 16 shield, +5 AL, +30 health?

These are all collector's items. Yes, at first they stink, but once you reach the desert, they do become worth it.
Hey, alternatively you can use the white drops that Lvl 24 monsters give you...
Or, you can do what everyone does, and BUY your weapons. That's SO MUCH FUN, according to Anet. And ofcourse, those weapons come courtesy of farmers and botters. Without farmers and botters, nobody would have anything decent. And the devs think this would be a great situation.

I like GW, I really do, but the devs are plain determined to run the thing into the ground.


Creston


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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 24, 2005, 10:56
nin
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Re: Guild Wars Aug 24, 2005, 10:56
Aug 24, 2005, 10:56
nin
 
I got one of the Flaming Dragon Swords (like Rurik's) awhile back, but yeah 13-18? Big whoop...


So it sits in storage...


edit:
A mesmer is a pretty strong class, although it's probably the most involved / difficult to play, since it's a counter specialist (ie, it counters what enemies do).

Think that may be my 4th character...




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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 24, 2005, 10:48
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Re: Guild Wars Aug 24, 2005, 10:48
Aug 24, 2005, 10:48
 
Really, they're pretty good

You must be playing a different game.

EDIT: Although the drop rate tweaking is an issue, for sure. I had to buy a sword from another player to get a good one. I found a 13-18 butterfly sword, which served me well for a while, but then I started doing like 3 to 5 dmg to monsters, and not another sword in sight. So when this guy started advertising his unenchanted max dmg longsword for 200 gold, I bought it.
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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 24, 2005, 09:45
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Re: Guild Wars Aug 24, 2005, 09:45
Aug 24, 2005, 09:45
 
1) who?

nin. You know, the guy with the 8000+ posts.

2) Well...er...what? Isn't strenght an attribute so really not that much of a bonus from the warrior (or I am guessing I have access to more armor?)

No, strength is actually an upgradeable skillset in GW. Bit confusing I know. It honestly isn't that useful on its own (it gives 1 whole frigging percent Armor Penetration per point invested in it, which isn't all that much), although it has some skills that go with it that are moderately useful.

See, every class has 4 skillsets. You put points into that skillset, and then EVERY skill that is a part of that skillset will be upgraded. For example, if you upgrade your Healing Skillset as a monk, from 3 to 4, ALL your healing spells will be better, not just one.

For my warrior, is one better than the other for my secondary? I was not paying attention to what I clicked on (/yawn at boring quests) and apparently got the low level mesmer skills which seem cool because (a) they give me a way to heal in combat (w/o the 40 armor reduction thingie) and that one bleed attack procs more than my rage-based one does.

A mesmer is a pretty strong class, although it's probably the most involved / difficult to play, since it's a counter specialist (ie, it counters what enemies do). Warrior primary can do well with pretty much every secondary, although I still think that anyone who plays a Warrior / Ranger (Ranger / Warrior) kinda has things confused

Healing is something every class can do, actually, SELF healing that is. Some are slightly better than others, but only the monk can do it well, and can heal others better than they can heal themselves.

The downside to being a Warrior / Mesmer is that Mesmer has a lot of high energy skills and your warrior energy pool is currently only 20. (will go up to 27 with gladiator armor later, and you can, I suppose, use a side item in your offhand to go to around 35, but that will negate the use of a shield...)

Are there actual crafting/customizations skills/professions or is it literally buying the (finite) kits, break crap down, lugging crap around my inventory, and hoping I stumble upon a crafter NPC that can make something nice? Speaking of space, is there a GW bank or storage center?

Yes, but not until you leave the newbie zone. Once you exit the newbie zone, there is a bank in every town that you can access. The cool thing is, ALL your characters access the same account, so it's easy to swap stuff between characters. The downside, ofcourse, is that storage is pretty limited.
There is no real crafting structure in the game besides the limited crafting I already explained. I just sell most stuff, and if I ever find I need to craft something I just buy it back. Easier than hauling it all around.

But...I already hit level five or fix just in playing a very short bit this AM. Unless it slows down drastically (ddrrraaggggg,) does that not mean the "growing" part of your character ends fairly abruptly? That was a real killer in WoW and this one seems even more limited. Is it really just (boring) PvP or endlessly hunting around for the next 1337 item? I guess all the games really break down into this, but they generally do not do it so early or there are the jobs/profressions to add some spicey variety to the game.

Well, you do level EXTREMELY fast in the newbie zone, because of the fact that the monsters, while utterly crappy, are still of comparable level to you, and thus give you a lot of XP. It will still take you quite awhile to reach 20 (believe me).
But yeah, once you reach 20, your character "growth" is over, although you can still gain extra skills and such (and hunt for Elites, if you can be so bothered).

I agree that I personally enjoy having that character grow more, but in the end, whether it's 60 or 20 or 150, a level is a just a number. You'll reach it sooner or later (sooner in GW), and once you've reached it, you get bored if you're all about character growth.

Once you've reached 20, there are some fair few missions / instances made especially for level 20 characters, and a few more being released soon, but yeah, if you don't ENJOY doing those missions (they get a lot better btw, so far all you've done are quests, the real MISSIONS don't start until after the newbie zone, and most of those are a LOT of fun to play through), then you're going to get bored with GW pretty quickly.

4) Well, mostly I was referring to my attribute skills...or are they really not as important as the talents are in WoW? LIkewise, what should a warrior go with? It looks like strength is good along with specializing in one weapon type...but what about that last, group-friendly skill? I miss having the talent screen in WoW and planning out how I want my character to be shaped, I guess.

I don't know what talents are in WoW, so can't really compare. Note that in Guild Wars you can never make a WRONG choice for your character where skillsets / skills etc are concerned. If you upgrade strength now, but later decide you don't like it, you can get those points invested in strength back (simply click on the - in front of it). You earn "refund points" by gaining xp, and they fill up very rapidly, enough so that you can completely redo two whole skillsets from 12 to 0 and up two others from 0 to 12.
So go with what you like. Strenght is pretty decent, although compared to some of the other primaries I find it's pretty weak. Stick with one weapon (they all have advantages and disadvantages) class, put some points in mesmer domination for example, and just fiddle around.
Like I said, you can never make a WRONG choice in GW.
So while you miss the talent screen which allows you to plan, Guild Wars isn't that locked. Go one way, if you don't like it, reverse and go the other. For me, this is one of THE best things about GW, that you don't have to start over from scratch if you put some points into skills you don't like (or, since we're talking about WoW, that Blizzard smacked their nerf bat down on to completely ruin your character).

5 Awww, I have no issue with Gwen, but what else can I do? I have not received a shawl from her so I guess I will have to get her more flowers, but are there any other items I should be on the lookout for?

Can't be much help here, I hate Gwen. She gets you stuck, she supposedly heals you but this is VERY rare, and she sucks up gold like nothing else. I think you have to buy her a flute and a cape from the item store.

6. I dun'no - I'll have to group with some people or join a guild to see if there is more to the game, but I thought it would at least have me leveling and growing for a bit instead of having such a small cap and really, really focusing solely on PvP. Also, in GW, is the tank a fighter, a meatshield (tank,) both, neither?

Well, like I said, the newbie zone is a VERY poor representation of the actual game. You don't HAVE to focus on PvP (I've never done any, apart from that one battle you HAVE to do), if you like fun missions (that can take hours to complete with 6 characters) and exploring, Guild Wars is a lot of fun. If you enjoy character growth and xp grinding more, then it's probably going to disappoint you a bit.
Again, the missions are probably the core of the game, and you haven't seen a single one yet. You've just seen quests.

A fighter is predominantly a tank, since his DPS is dwarved by that of elementalists, rangers and even mesmers to an extent. The fighter's job is to aggro the monsters, get them to start bashing him, and then have the Elementalist rain an AoE spell on them.
But, with some nice skill combos, fighters CAN dish out some good damage, and inflict pretty decent status afflictions.

As for botters/CD-keys, I honestly thing that is an inherent aspect of MMOG as they currently stand. Most developers blow smoke up our collective ass; they could reall care less so long as they have the sales and (for other games) accounts...

Yup. I personally have no issue with botters, I have an issue with Arenanet's RETARDED method of trying to counter them, which basically involves just nerfing EVERY enchantment (by giving almost every mob an instant enchantment removal), thereby invalidating fully one third of all skills in the game.

guess I will have to read the manual ($%@#%$#@$%@# and I am hoping playing with all of you will help things.....but it still seems like this is just a version of Diablo and should not even really be considered a MMOG.

Well, noone has ever denied that it is anything BUT a prettier looking Diablo clone, AFAIK
And it's not a MMOG, few people have denied that either

Creston

Collectors generally have useless crap. I don't bother with them at all post-searing

This is NOT TRUE, btw. When you LOOK at what they have, their stuff seems useless, but you can get AWESOME items from them later on, especially weapons. And with Anet CONTINUOUSLY nerfing drop rates to hell, pretty much the ONLY way you can get a decent weapon now is to either buy gold on ebay and spend 200 plat on a frigging sword, or to get one from the collectors beyond the desert and such.
But collectors are well worth it. The ones near piken square give weapons that do bonus damage vs Charr, for example. And since Charr is all you face, it's a helpful weapon to have.
Really, they're pretty good

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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 24, 2005, 06:10
53.
Re: Guild Wars Aug 24, 2005, 06:10
Aug 24, 2005, 06:10
 
Are there actual crafting/customizations skills/professions or is it literally buying the (finite) kits, break crap down, lugging crap around my inventory, and hoping I stumble upon a crafter NPC that can make something nice? Speaking of space, is there a GW bank or storage center?

The guys 'making something nice' are in towns. They're not troublesome to find. Collectors generally have useless crap. I don't bother with them at all post-searing. And yes, there is a bank, like the chest in diablo2, run by something called Xunlai. Also accessible in most towns.

Just be sure to spend a lot of time in the catacombs pre-searing. Dye is a lot more common there, and black dye fetches thousands of gold post-searing.

EDIT: About that rave... Seems to be some disagreement concerning whether they had all the permits they needed. But after seeing footage of someone dressed as a soldier kicking the shit out of someone, I'd consider this a minor point.
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Re: Off topic
Aug 23, 2005, 22:42
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Re: Off topic Aug 23, 2005, 22:42
Aug 23, 2005, 22:42
 
OK, it wasn't for the anesthesiologist, it was the hemotologist.

Apparently we still have not received the invoices for the pulmonologist and another -gist of some type, but I hope the result stays the same. Hope I spelled all those -gists correctly....


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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 23, 2005, 21:50
nin
51.
Re: Guild Wars Aug 23, 2005, 21:50
Aug 23, 2005, 21:50
nin
 

If you want to deal out some serious damage make an Elementalist and dump all your points into fire and energy storage.

This is what I've done, and love it!



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Re: Rave Bust
Aug 23, 2005, 19:49
50.
Re: Rave Bust Aug 23, 2005, 19:49
Aug 23, 2005, 19:49
 
I don't know what else to say, I'm just pissed that this kind of bullshit can go on in America today.
Welcome to the world of selective freedoms

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Rave Bust
Aug 23, 2005, 19:05
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Rave Bust Aug 23, 2005, 19:05
Aug 23, 2005, 19:05
 
This pisses me off so much. I'm posting a link to a firsthand account of one of the djs that was playing at this show.

http://www.404audio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14814

This was a completely legal party. The promoter had his permits, he had a licensed security force confiscating drugs and alcohol, and this was on private property. This completely over the top police response was to send a message: Ravers, stay the fuck out of Utah. Yes, they found some drugs. You know what? If you go to any huge music event- rap show, rock show, whatever, you're goign to find some drugs. The management was making their best effort to keep everything clean and legit. Believe it or not, there are many, many people into electronic music that have no interest in drugs at all. People go for the music, the dancing, the sheer FUN of it, just like any other genre of music. I don't know what else to say, I'm just pissed that this kind of bullshit can go on in America today.

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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 23, 2005, 18:57
48.
Re: Guild Wars Aug 23, 2005, 18:57
Aug 23, 2005, 18:57
 
If you want to deal out some serious damage make an Elementalist and dump all your points into fire and energy storage.

Mmmmmmmm ..... Firestorm ........ aaaaaaarggggghhhhh [/Homer voice]

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Re: Off topic
Aug 23, 2005, 18:52
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Aug 23, 2005, 18:52
 
To be honest, that is incredibly cheap for a week long stay in ICU.

But yeah, our healthcare system is crazy, crazy out of control. Alas, capitalism is winning out over people caring about their health and helping others, but that is another story for another day.

Granted, my mother's condition was an entirely diferent subject, but her final total from Camino Medical Group rang in just over one and a half million dollars.
Lots and lots of legal fun, needless to say!
In twenty-two months.

She made, what, $70K a year?

$42K on disability?

$80,500 made over two years < $1,500,000+ billed over two years

From what she did through her medical work, I have seen families devastated simply by one 911 call/ER visit.

But ANYWAY, it is good that all is relatively well...

Off topic with regards to the on topic off topic,
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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 23, 2005, 18:45
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Re: Guild Wars Aug 23, 2005, 18:45
Aug 23, 2005, 18:45
 
Honestly, I am just looking for something to do...something with skill...a true profession...a story...etc.

Post-searing. Go now. Never look back.

My monk is currently stuck on a circle of fire mission, since I can't seem to find a group that contains people that can all follow directions.

As for size/length, lets put it this way: I've got 250 hours into the game and I still haven't beat it with a single character.

Edit: Noticed you mentioned that your mesmer skills do more damage. That's very true. Warriors aren't a high-damage class, they're really more like defensive tanks. If you want to deal out some serious damage make an Elementalist and dump all your points into fire and energy storage.
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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 23, 2005, 18:42
45.
Re: Guild Wars Aug 23, 2005, 18:42
Aug 23, 2005, 18:42
 
Oh, can I just say how lame humans are? I never play them in games - they suck. Being a racist wookiee or racist night elf is where it is at!

Well, invite me into the guild, damn it!

And who the hell is everybody? Nobody ever uses as <cough> creative <cough> names as me!

I'll have to play more, but I guess I was fairly spoiled by WoW. I just feel like I am getting a bunch of random, nonsense quests for now...
MORE FLOWERS FOR GWEN PLEASE!
Worried more about the "game" part of GW than its physical size,
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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 23, 2005, 18:28
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Re: Guild Wars Aug 23, 2005, 18:28
Aug 23, 2005, 18:28
 
i) Month or two? I'm worried I'll be done with the game in two weeks. :>

ii) It is big - hell, it took me like five routes just to find the stupid catacomb NPC - but it does seem a bit lifeless and/or generic. Knowing the world is bigger than what I see does help, though.

iii) Honestly, I am just looking for something to do...something with skill...a true profession...a story...etc.

About to go log into Yohoho Puzzle Pirates :o,
Ray Shut up!

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Re: Off topic
Aug 23, 2005, 18:24
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Aug 23, 2005, 18:24
 
I always "knew" that blood clots were a possibility from taking oral contraceptives, but I had no idea _3x_ as many from the patch. That's rarely advertised. :/

(Sorry I missed your earlier post with the links. I was very saddened by your wife's condition and relied upon Z to provide pertinent info on her situation. I'll kick his butt when he gets home tonight. )
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Re: Guild Wars
Aug 23, 2005, 18:24
42.
Re: Guild Wars Aug 23, 2005, 18:24
Aug 23, 2005, 18:24
 
1. Who?

2. Well...er...what? Isn't strenght an attribute so really not that much of a bonus from the warrior (or I am guessing I have access to more armor?)

For my warrior, is one better than the other for my secondary? I was not paying attention to what I clicked on (/yawn at boring quests) and apparently got the low level mesmer skills which seem cool because (a) they give me a way to heal in combat (w/o the 40 armor reduction thingie) and that one bleed attack procs more than my rage-based one does.

Alternately, is there really much distinction between classes then? It almost feels like "Be simultaneous classes!" to me, but I am hoping I am missing the depth of the game.

As for materials, bah. I hunt down crap the collectors want, otherwise it generally takes up too much room in my ever-limited inventory. I have (rashly?) been selling off all my precious and what not blue items, but no, I have not received any special stuff like dye.

Are there actual crafting/customizations skills/professions or is it literally buying the (finite) kits, break crap down, lugging crap around my inventory, and hoping I stumble upon a crafter NPC that can make something nice? Speaking of space, is there a GW bank or storage center?

3. But...I already hit level five or fix just in playing a very short bit this AM. Unless it slows down drastically (ddrrraaggggg,) does that not mean the "growing" part of your character ends fairly abruptly? That was a real killer in WoW and this one seems even more limited. Is it really just (boring) PvP or endlessly hunting around for the next 1337 item? I guess all the games really break down into this, but they generally do not do it so early or there are the jobs/profressions to add some spicey variety to the game.

4. Well, mostly I was referring to my attribute skills...or are they really not as important as the talents are in WoW? LIkewise, what should a warrior go with? It looks like strength is good along with specializing in one weapon type...but what about that last, group-friendly skill? I miss having the talent screen in WoW and planning out how I want my character to be shaped, I guess.

5. Awww, I have no issue with Gwen, but what else can I do? I have not received a shawl from her so I guess I will have to get her more flowers, but are there any other items I should be on the lookout for?

6. I dun'no - I'll have to group with some people or join a guild to see if there is more to the game, but I thought it would at least have me leveling and growing for a bit instead of having such a small cap and really, really focusing solely on PvP. Also, in GW, is the tank a fighter, a meatshield (tank,) both, neither?

I don't know; SoE is easily the laziest, lowest bidding developer out there, but Blizzard is still, by far, the most imcompetent one of late...

As for botters/CD-keys, I honestly thing that is an inherent aspect of MMOG as they currently stand. Most developers blow smoke up our collective ass; they could reall care less so long as they have the sales and (for other games) accounts...

I guess I will have to read the manual ($%@#%$#@$%@#%) and I am hoping playing with all of you will help things.....but it still seems like this is just a version of Diablo and should not even really be considered a MMOG.
And I really have no idea about the whole "favor" thing.
Wishing the developers would just admit that,
Ray

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Re: Off topic
Aug 23, 2005, 17:42
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Aug 23, 2005, 17:42
 
As for the patch - wow. I haven't heard of that issue before.

I know I posted links regarding newspaper articles at the time as the story "broke" as she was in the hospital.

Here's a few:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/health/071805_hs_birthControl_Patch.html

Blood clots are an accepted risk from hormonal birth control because estrogen promotes blood coagulation. But how many clots are too many? .

The AP found that before the patch was approved, the FDA had already noticed nonfatal blood clots from the patch were three times that of the pill. The AP then examined what has actually happened since the patch came on the market and found that deaths also appear to be at least three times as high. .

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8565177/

In fact, it is this type of statement that made it easy for her to decide to switch from the pill:

Birth control patches have health risks similar to those experienced by users of oral contraceptives, such as a slight risk of blood clots in the legs or lungs and hypertension. If your doctor has advised you not to use oral contraceptives, he or she will probably advise you not to use the birth control patch, either.

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/PR/00075.html



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Re: Off topic
Aug 23, 2005, 17:24
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Aug 23, 2005, 17:24
 
I'm glad that your wife is doing better now, but I'm sorry that your future plans are changed.

As for the patch - wow. I haven't heard of that issue before. (But any birth control I don't have to take daily scares me. I know way too many women who can't have kids now after Depo Provera made them effectively infertile.)

I'm so thankful your wife is better.
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Aug 23, 2005, 17:17
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Aug 23, 2005, 17:17
 
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Re: DS II
Aug 23, 2005, 17:07
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Re: DS II Aug 23, 2005, 17:07
Aug 23, 2005, 17:07
 
Those secondary quests can be more difficult to complete than the primary quests, is all I can say.

Thanks. Yeah, having the disbanded members going to town instead of spread over creation sure helps if you get in a jam like that. Not much of a spoiler and thanks for the info. In fact, I've got a scorpion hanging out at the inn right now....

That Haku priest was sure a pain in the ass to kill. I have only just made it to past the SSDSIIT:

plague village where you meet the wizard/sage

and stopped at the next teleporter. I really wish I had more time to play. Oh, well, I guess I wring more days of enjoyment out of my games this way....


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I love hitmen. No matter what you do to them, you don't feel bad.

Have I lied to you? I mean, in this room? Trust me, leave that thing alone. - GLaDOS

Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away? - Ripley
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