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ADnD Thee grandaddy... |
Apr 11, 2005, 20:51 |
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Yes, Dungeons and Dragons is the original and for that alone true gamers should give it a fighting chance. If you don't know anything about this game all you have to do is goto a gaming store and see how many volumes of primary and supporting material is in print for it.
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Re: No subject |
Apr 11, 2005, 20:42 |
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Sorry, but if you are gonna kinda get your hopes up about a MMORPG, it would be this one. It's the original DnD. The grand daddy of them all. Turbine is working with WoTC on this, in a relatively new game setting (Eberron), so there is plenty of chance for things to go right. They are also taking some risks for MMORPGs, like content based XP instead of combat based. This really isn't just "another" MMORPG, it could be something different and refreshing.
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Re: No subject |
Apr 11, 2005, 20:26 |
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They are trying to do something different. They are going with action based combat where twitch skills will make a difference. Want to use a bow a bow?...you have to *gasp* aim it and lead the target. You'll manually control the blocking, swing and special moves. There's no just watching you guy stand in front of something and swing away.
Hopefully they can pull it off because it'd be a nice change from the current boring MMORPG combat style.
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Re: No subject |
Apr 11, 2005, 18:57 |
Grounded |
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this MMORPG will be retarded and flop as bad as Horizons and Matrix Online
C'mon people, there are about 100 people waiting for this game, thats it
and half of them are posting in this thread and on VN Boards to make people excited about a game that has been done before and been there already
Give me a break
these are the same people that were upset when Horizons was cancelled
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Re: No subject |
Apr 11, 2005, 18:41 |
BigAlski |
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Well, I hate to say it but....WoW is burying EQ2 and it is just fate since the everquest franchise didnt change with the times. They still force you to group, try to make the benefits of tradeskills nil until you devote some 2 months to it, and keep you wanting more content and feeling cramped if u do get dedicated so you will buy the next expansion. At least WoW lets you have fun and play with your friends if u want too, not because you HAVE to.
And to quantify who copied who....
Everquest was copied by: Shadowbane, Horizons, DAoC...two of which are defunct. (you could also add Lineage 2)
Asherons Call purposely meant to be different (no Tolkein monsters) but then tried to copy EQ with AC2 and it was a failure.
Then you had the EQ style Sci Fi games, all of which were failures or mediocre successes: SWG, AO, Neocron, and now Matrix Online
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Re: No subject |
Apr 11, 2005, 18:39 |
Saint Proverbius |
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Absolutely. But regardless, the SOE was first to the pc game arena. Its kind of like someone saying that the 3D Indiana Jones adventure game was derivative of TOMB RAIDER.
That would be Origin with Ultima Online. They made the first modern MMO for the PC.
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Re: Turbine Underrrated... |
Apr 11, 2005, 18:35 |
BigAlski |
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Also, Turbine (I know, blame Microsoft for this..tis the standard line) was far to lax for far too long with those who used 3rd party combat macros. And don't even let me get started on the whole 'experience' chain issue..one problem simply feeding another
Yes I have to agree here. I quit too after, say, 2 years of macro gamers ruining the natural curve of the game and the world economies. One thing I will always remember, though, is getting up on Saturday morning, putting on a pot of coffee, and heading off to the Olthoi caves for a day of bug bashing. For an unarmed, you could get in there at lvl28ish and hold your own against one, gradually getting better and better..and in like 2 weeks you would be level 40, able to take 8 or 10 at a time. The lvl5 loot was rare in there though.
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Re: No subject |
Apr 11, 2005, 18:20 |
Cicatrix |
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Um, you cannot "Grind" in DDO, per se. EXP is not given for defeating monsters, but defeating content. So, if you want XP, you have to do (and complete) quests with other people.
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No subject |
Apr 11, 2005, 17:34 |
Prez |
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But you could also argue that EQ stole it's ideas from D&D...
Absolutely. But regardless, the SOE was first to the pc game arena. Its kind of like someone saying that the 3D Indiana Jones adventure game was derivative of TOMB RAIDER.
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Re: A REAL MMORPG |
Apr 11, 2005, 17:19 |
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DDO's gonna have real-time combat, not click-and-watch gameplay. That's more unique than Guild Wars, although i hope guild wars is good too
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Re: A REAL MMORPG |
Apr 11, 2005, 17:18 |
nin |
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All of the fanatasy MMORPGs ever released are basically mods of Everquest.
But you could also argue that EQ stole it's ideas from D&D...
May 3rd, 2005 - "We are preparing to destroy you." http://www.nin.com |
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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A REAL MMORPG |
Apr 11, 2005, 17:11 |
Prez |
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Can this game even really be called new? All of the fanatasy MMORPGs ever released are basically mods of Everquest. Does anyone realy get excited about another fantasy MMORPG? I have will never again pay a monthly fee to play these derivative, grind-based money sinks. I for one hope GUILD WARS is mega successful and turns the whole out-dated MMORPG business model on its ear.
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Re: D&D Online Alpha Sing-ups |
Apr 11, 2005, 16:52 |
Ihya |
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Combine Sing Star style Karaoke with D&D online?
*Monocle drops from eye*
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Re: D&D Online Alpha Sing-ups |
Apr 11, 2005, 15:58 |
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I submitted my application, though not for singing, and I'll see how it goes.
It still seems like a lot of MMOGs are lacking the "game" aspect past the initial content; they seem to often degrade into a graphical chatroom for players or just let players spend all day killing each other.
I'm curious as to whether this is anything more than deathmatch with swords.
Now having two UBRS and Baron runs with only cloth drops,
Ray
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Re: Turbine Underrrated... |
Apr 11, 2005, 15:40 |
Awesome Spume |
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AC must have had 200 dungeons, and at least 30 really big ones, and that was 5 years ago.
I gotta admit that was one of the things I really liked about AC - some of those dungeons just consisted of a couple of rooms, a few spawns and a mini boss but it was fun stepping into a dungeon not knowing what to expect. In fact the only more recent MMORPG that had a similar number of "dungeons" was Anarchy Online with the instanced missions.
As for PnP RPGs, I used to play "Tunnels and Trolls" about twenty years ago - one night last year I was drunk and googled "Ken St Andre", one of the designers. So, I turned up his homepage and fired him off an email and got a nice reply from him so that was cool. Now, it turns out Ken St. Andre was also one of the guys behind Wasteland, which I did not know.
How come noone ever did a fan remake of Wasteland?
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Oh man |
Apr 11, 2005, 15:27 |
Bludd |
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I bet the only class availible in the alpha is the bard class. 
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Re: Turbine Underrrated... |
Apr 11, 2005, 15:12 |
Halsy |
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I'm stoked on DDO (see our fansite at ddo.ogaming.com - unfinished still) and it holds a lot of promise and several concerns as well. As much as I'm stoked on the game, if I feel it doesn't live up to D&D in spirit with great quests and the like I certainly won't be staying. Seeing as they're partnered with WOTC I don't forsee a shortage of good material though.
"Martin Luther was a German fellow who pinned a note on a church door that said, 'Hang on a minute!' Actually, he was German so it said, 'Ein minuten bitte!'"
- Eddie Izzard |
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"And then, suddenly and without warning, it turned into a real-life case of hungry, hungry hippos."
- Stephen Colbert |
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Re: Turbine Underrrated... |
Apr 11, 2005, 14:57 |
Mingus |
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AC vet of 3.5 years and I can tell you that of those 200 or so dungeons you speak of, only about 1/3 had any real content in them to speak of (and even then, I am being generous).
Also, Turbine (I know, blame Microsoft for this..tis the standard line) was far to lax for far too long with those who used 3rd party combat macros. And don't even let me get started on the whole 'experience' chain issue..one problem simply feeding another.
I finally left in disgust.
AC2? Are you kidding me? I see you made absolutely no mention of this pile of MMOG dung.
And where is Middle Earth Online?
Lets face the facts, for sheer fun factor the new standard is World of Warcraft. Turbine has their work cut out for them in spades.
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No subject |
Apr 11, 2005, 14:52 |
Tanto Edge |
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The site is working again!
I love this site... Blue, don't know what I'd do without you.
How many years have I been coming to this site?...
How long has Quake been around...?
I'm signing up for this. I've played PnP RPGs for years and this should be interesting.
The gameplay movies seem to dole a certain realtime flavor. I'm hoping this aspect of D&D is present.
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