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Re: Robot Won't Save Hubble. |
Dec 9, 2004, 15:10 |
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but if you give them time & money (probably a lot less than Nasa needs), they can develop the technology to do it
That's nice. Give them all the money you want.
You must have a final solution, ready to go, by 2007. That's the earliest estimate for when the next gyro on Hubble will fail. Once that occurs the bird is (as I understand it) unrecoverable. Scaled cannot solve the numerous engineering challenges in that time frame even if they had the resources to do so -- which they don't. They're kinda busy with the whole private enterprise bit along with Virgin. And if they could solve the LEO problem then there's far more lucrative options than repairing a satellite.
NASA are the only ones who can do it. I guess, in theory, that Russia has the physical resources necessary, but they certainly don't have the money. Nor do they have the right, since it's a US satellite. Europe does not have any manned capability. The Chinese have demonstrated manned flight, but that's all it was -- a demonstration. No real capability there either.
Beyond which, there's a significant question as to the value of the Hubble anyway. Modern ground based telescopes are capable of nearly the same resolution in the visible light spectrum. The JWT, if successful, will vastly outstrip Hubble's capabilities in the infrared and near-infrared spectrum. The only thing we lose is Hubble's UV capabilities -- they cannot be replicated by earth based scopes (there's that annoying ozone layer in the way), and there are no planned space based scopes that will have anywhere near the same capability. If JWT is successful, however, I'd bet the next scope to go up will be a visible/UV one that will outstrip Hubble to the same extent as Hubble outstriped everything else when it finally started working.
Understand, I think NASA should send the shuttle to the Hubble and repair it (as well as install the two modules that are already paid for and waiting for the trip). I think the dangers alleged by NASA's top admin are vastly overblown and a bunch of bureaucratic bullshit. The panel is correct -- sending the shuttle to Hubble is no significantly greater risk than sending it to ISS. ISS is not designed for, or capable of, acting as a lifeboat for the shuttle crew. It's barely even functioning as designed.
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Dec 9, 10:26 |
No subject |
nin |
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13. |
Dec 9, 11:27 |
This just kills me ... |
BFSoLo. |
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16. |
Dec 9, 11:45 |
Re: This just kills me ... |
xXBatmanXx |
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2. |
Dec 9, 10:40 |
No subject |
sauron |
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3. |
Dec 9, 10:44 |
Dimebag will be missed |
McNublet |
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4. |
Dec 9, 10:45 |
Not a good day... |
Zathrus |
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5. |
Dec 9, 10:51 |
Pantera... |
Hanover |
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8. |
Dec 9, 11:12 |
Re: Pantera... |
AJ |
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6. |
Dec 9, 10:53 |
Quicksand |
Zorlack |
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12. |
Dec 9, 11:25 |
Re: Quicksand |
xXBatmanXx |
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14. |
Dec 9, 11:31 |
Re: Quicksand |
Beamer |
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36. |
Dec 9, 14:29 |
Re: Quicksand |
Mr. Tact |
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37. |
Dec 9, 14:43 |
Re: Quicksand |
xXBatmanXx |
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38. |
Dec 9, 15:02 |
Re: Quicksand |
MrGrosser |
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7. |
Dec 9, 11:01 |
Another (groin-related) story of the day |
Jim |
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9. |
Dec 9, 11:12 |
Re: Another (groin-related) story of the |
Zathrus |
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10. |
Dec 9, 11:14 |
Image of the Day |
Gandhi |
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17. |
Dec 9, 12:04 |
Re: Another (groin-related) story of the |
Tango |
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18. |
Dec 9, 12:11 |
Re: Another (groin-related) story of the |
Warhawk |
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20. |
Dec 9, 12:31 |
Re: Another (groin-related) story of the |
xXBatmanXx |
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21. |
Dec 9, 12:42 |
Re: Another (groin-related) story of the |
Warhawk |
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22. |
Dec 9, 12:49 |
Re: Another (groin-related) story of the |
xXBatmanXx |
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11. |
Dec 9, 11:21 |
Dimebag R.I.P |
Protoz |
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15. |
Dec 9, 11:43 |
ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
FourPak |
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19. |
Dec 9, 12:29 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Jim |
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24. |
Dec 9, 12:58 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
nin |
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26. |
Dec 9, 13:12 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
xXBatmanXx |
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27. |
Dec 9, 13:30 |
Flash problems in Firefox.. |
BicycleRepairMan |
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30. |
Dec 9, 13:39 |
Pantera |
BicycleRepairMan |
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28. |
Dec 9, 13:34 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Zathrus |
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29. |
Dec 9, 13:38 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Jereco |
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39. |
Dec 9, 15:06 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Yosemite Sam |
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41. |
Dec 9, 15:23 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
nin |
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46. |
Dec 9, 16:08 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Yosemite Sam |
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47. |
Dec 9, 16:20 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Zathrus |
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51. |
Dec 9, 16:26 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Warhawk |
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54. |
Dec 9, 16:36 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Warhawk |
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62. |
Dec 9, 17:46 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Quaternion |
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55. |
Dec 9, 16:38 |
Re: guns |
Yosemite Sam |
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56. |
Dec 9, 16:50 |
Re: guns |
Enahs |
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58. |
Dec 9, 17:14 |
Re: guns |
Yosemite Sam |
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63. |
Dec 9, 17:49 |
Re: guns |
Enahs |
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64. |
Dec 9, 18:00 |
Re: guns |
Yosemite Sam |
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65. |
Dec 9, 18:07 |
Re: guns |
Enahs |
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68. |
Dec 9, 18:20 |
Re: guns |
Propagandhi |
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73. |
Dec 9, 18:29 |
Re: guns |
Enahs |
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74. |
Dec 9, 18:51 |
Re: guns |
AirWreck |
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75. |
Dec 9, 18:54 |
Re: guns |
Yosemite Sam |
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71. |
Dec 9, 18:23 |
Re: guns |
Warhawk |
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80. |
Dec 9, 23:53 |
Re: guns |
MeatForce |
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81. |
Dec 10, 00:35 |
Re: guns |
Warhawk |
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83. |
Dec 10, 01:19 |
Re: guns |
JediLuke |
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88. |
Dec 10, 07:58 |
Re: guns |
Tango |
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84. |
Dec 10, 03:50 |
Re: guns |
Propagandhi |
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89. |
Dec 10, 09:12 |
Re: guns |
WarPig |
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92. |
Dec 10, 10:44 |
Re: guns |
Warhawk |
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93. |
Dec 10, 10:59 |
Re: guns |
nin |
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97. |
Dec 10, 14:50 |
Re: guns |
Quaternion |
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99. |
Dec 10, 15:15 |
Re: guns |
Warhawk |
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100. |
Dec 10, 15:29 |
Re: guns |
Quaternion |
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101. |
Dec 10, 17:06 |
Re: guns |
Nemesis |
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102. |
Dec 10, 17:36 |
Re: guns |
xXBatmanXx |
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103. |
Dec 10, 17:46 |
Re: guns |
Nemesis |
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104. |
Dec 10, 21:18 |
Re: guns |
WarPig |
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105. |
Dec 11, 11:31 |
Re: guns |
Armengar |
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106. |
Dec 11, 17:01 |
Re: guns |
nin |
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87. |
Dec 10, 07:44 |
Re: guns |
MeatForce |
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59. |
Dec 9, 17:14 |
Re: guns |
Zorlack |
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57. |
Dec 9, 17:14 |
Re: guns |
Zathrus |
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49. |
Dec 9, 16:25 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Warhawk |
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60. |
Dec 9, 17:25 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
nin |
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61. |
Dec 9, 17:43 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Yosemite Sam |
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91. |
Dec 10, 09:39 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
xXBatmanXx |
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94. |
Dec 10, 11:06 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Moonbender |
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95. |
Dec 10, 11:16 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Warhawk |
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96. |
Dec 10, 14:08 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
xXBatmanXx |
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98. |
Dec 10, 15:00 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Quaternion |
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77. |
Dec 9, 19:08 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Zathrus |
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90. |
Dec 10, 09:36 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
xXBatmanXx |
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42. |
Dec 9, 15:29 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Moog Operator |
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44. |
Dec 9, 15:51 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Warhawk |
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45. |
Dec 9, 16:07 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
BicycleRepairMan |
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52. |
Dec 9, 16:28 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Warhawk |
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48. |
Dec 9, 16:24 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Tango |
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53. |
Dec 9, 16:31 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Warhawk |
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76. |
Dec 9, 19:05 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Tango |
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86. |
Dec 10, 06:44 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Moonbender |
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50. |
Dec 9, 16:26 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Zathrus |
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70. |
Dec 9, 18:22 |
Re: ot:Rumsfeld in Kuwait |
Moog Operator |
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23. |
Dec 9, 12:57 |
R.I.P. Dimebag "Diamond" Darrel |
Toxic_Metal |
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25. |
Dec 9, 13:08 |
R.I.P. Dimebag Darrel |
Nameless Again |
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31. |
Dec 9, 13:44 |
Robot Won't Save Hubble. |
Quaternion |
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33. |
Dec 9, 14:00 |
Re: Robot Won't Save Hubble. |
Zathrus |
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34. |
Dec 9, 14:13 |
Re: Robot Won't Save Hubble. |
Quaternion |
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35. |
Dec 9, 14:18 |
Re: Robot Won't Save Hubble. |
xXBatmanXx |
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40. |
Dec 9, 15:10 |
Re: Robot Won't Save Hubble. |
Zathrus |
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43. |
Dec 9, 15:50 |
Re: Robot Won't Save Hubble. |
Jim |
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32. |
Dec 9, 13:57 |
Zathrus |
Bronco |
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66. |
Dec 9, 18:11 |
Riddick |
Killer Kane |
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67. |
Dec 9, 18:19 |
Re: Riddick |
Hump |
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72. |
Dec 9, 18:24 |
Re: Riddick |
Ihya |
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78. |
Dec 9, 19:40 |
Re: Riddick |
Propagandhi |
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69. |
Dec 9, 18:22 |
From my cold dead.. |
Killer Kane |
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79. |
Dec 9, 22:39 |
Mrow |
Creston |
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82. |
Dec 10, 01:09 |
You KNOW I had to say it... |
Camaro76 |
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85. |
Dec 10, 04:33 |
Rumsfeld Bullshit |
Hump |
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107. |
Dec 11, 18:04 |
No subject |
Malakai |
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108. |
Dec 15, 15:29 |
Re: No subject |
Gandhi |
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109. |
Dec 15, 16:38 |
Re: No subject |
Malakai |
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110. |
Dec 15, 17:01 |
Re: No subject |
Gandhi |
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