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DOOM 3 Demo

The DOOM 3 demo is now available, offering a chance to turn on your flashlight and get your ass to Mars to check out id Software's latest first-person shooter. The demo offer three levels from the game, the whopping 461 MB download is available on 3D Downloads, 3D Gamers, Computer Games Online, Ferrago, Fileaholic, FileFront, Filerush (torrent), FileShack (registration required), Fragland.net, Gameguru Mania, Gamer's Hell, and Worthplaying.

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148. Re: Hmm Oct 31, 2004, 12:30 Cynic9
 
::smacks Jojo with a big trout::

 
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147. Re: Hmm Sep 24, 2004, 22:36 Jojo BoZley
 
Oh well, I enjoyed DOOM 3, and that's what matters. Nothing I say will change your view, and nothing you say will change mine. Let's please move on.

if you didn't, no doubt you have NO CLUE and are a complete gaming LOSER.


 
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146. Re: Call me Ebert. Or Roeper. Not Siskel Sep 24, 2004, 22:33 Jojo BoZley
 
Beautiful review! Hits the nail on the head

bullshit.

 
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145. doom3 emails Sep 22, 2004, 10:11 dorian
 
the goofy pda emails is what kept me going though doom3...without them, i would have been too bored to continue.

 
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144. No subject Sep 21, 2004, 15:14 Cheese
 
Rockclimber said "As for DOOM3, I've been playing id games forever and I think DOOM3 was just "ok". The graphics didn't really shock me because lots of other games came out before it with many of the same features. The gameplay is vanilla FPS.

Fact is, I barely made it half way through the game before I got bored. I've enjoyed it so far, but it hasn't been good enough to keep me interested for long periods of time. I though Riddick's game play was more fun.

And I say : If youve been playing id games forever and you didnt get a little shocked by the new engine there using for doom3? youre a liar.

Riddick? the console game ? no wonder no matter how good it is its a Fking console game this is the PC forum.

Shocked? and thats supposed to factor in to my liking doom3?
i liked it cause i didnt see anything else out at the time that I havent played to death already , I was board so i bought it played it and enjoyed it, as I do with most of the things i do.

Its no crime to enjoy what you do and as a gamer i do enjoy this proffesion , i dont whine cry and pull out hair nit picking about how a pixel is outta place, no no i enjoy playing games on the PC period, Ive played Mule, Archon, Pools of Radience, Eye of the beholder, Dungeon Master, all the great old one and Sundog.. and you know what?

I am a gamer no complaints about it just glad to support the industry so F off with all your childish whining ya here LOL.


 
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143. Re: Call me Ebert. Or Roeper. Not Siskel Sep 21, 2004, 11:45 denniz
 
Hmmm.... perhaps id (read J. Carmack) should focus on creating awesome rendering engines, and leave the rest (story, plot, puzzles, level design, characters, gameplay) to others (hire valve guys or vivendi, who cares?, raven, or the team that did tribes2.)  
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142. Re: Call me Ebert. Or Roeper. Not Siskel Sep 21, 2004, 03:40 cia
 

Beautiful review! Hits the nail on the head


 
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141. Call me Ebert. Or Roeper. Not Siskel Sep 20, 2004, 21:09 Camaro76
 
Downloaded the demo... and I'm glad I did not bother buying the game. The graphics are pretty and the attention to detail is great, but it's just a drunk Quake2 (linear levels, rehashed weapons, corridors up the wazoo) dolled up in a new prom dress and some lipstick and she's partying with Resident Evil (zombie takeover, evil corporation).
If id hasn't proven by now that they're kings of recycling their old material... this should do it...

p.s. ATTENTION GAME DEVELOPERS! ENOUGH FUCKING CRATES AND SEWERS ALREADY! IF YOUR LEVEL DESIGNER WAS A FORMER WAREHOUSE MANAGER/CROCODILE, FIRE HIS ASS!

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140. Re: Im not so alone Sep 20, 2004, 19:17 Muscular Beaver
 
Geez Cheez. I was actually trying to defend you, but I guess that was a failure.

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139. Hmm Sep 20, 2004, 17:14 Q
 
Man, you guys are making me guilty for enjoying DOOM 3. Granted, I haven't been playing that many games this year (haven't touched Far Cry and Thief 3 yet), but I think the reason why I enjoyed DOOM 3 is because I wasn't able to play it till end of August. By then I've pretty much read everyone's impression of it (without the spoilers). With expectation much, much lowered, I got what I wanted.

I might do the same thing for HL2. After what happened to DX:IW, I swear to never let myself get carried away by hype ever again.

Oh well, I enjoyed DOOM 3, and that's what matters. Nothing I say will change your view, and nothing you say will change mine. Let's please move on.

 
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138. Re: No subject Sep 20, 2004, 16:40 Undead Scottsman
 
Monster closets and ammo traps - Nostalgia, takes me back to the original Doom games ( this is a remake after all ). Yes sometimes it did take away from the immersion but generally I stay 'in the game' and fretted over the old style traps when I wasn't playing it.

Again, just because you can attach a fancy term to it, doesn't neccassarily make it a good idea. Had it been just ONE ammo trap or a small area with a bunch of monster closets, I could have gone "Haha, ammo-trap elevators! I remember those! That's great! :)" but that's not what happened.. Those concepts dominated most of the game, which really disrupted the immersion FOR NO GOOD REASON. Crap, they were even scary. Give us some stuff like the reflection scene in the Alpha.. THAT scared the bejesus out of me ("Hey cool, I can see twice reflection.. twice even... Wait, that second one is.. OH @!#$!$") 'Course the monsters in the alpha were a lot harder to put down

Do you think the flashlight would be better if it attached to every weapon?
No, that's impractical in the face of an easier idea; Stick the flashlight to the guys armour or helmet (Or just give him a Night Vision mode..) Have a shoulder mounted flashlight for your armour is an old staple of scifi.

And it might just be me, but I think trying to find a safe spot to hide before your flashlight runs out would be FAR more suspensful than "I have to run around with out a weapon to see.. Oh look a monster, better whip my gun out.. Hey, where'd he go?.. Oh well, I'll just fire blindly for awhile.."

wide open areas are only important for outdoor maps and even then only if you have jeeps/buggies etc ( which Q4 will have )

Good for Quake 4 and the Doom 3 engine.. I'm talking about the Doom 3 game though.

otherwise it's just a matter of taking longer to get to next objective. It doesn't matter if their are 20 different routes with a slightly different number of hostiles on each if you still haev to walk a mile to a specific door.

Or, you know, you can stick more objectives onto a larger map Plus a larger map allows for more non-linearity.. I don't know about anyone else, but I sure felt lead around by my nose in Doom 3.. That doesn't help the immersion that much either.

realistic water: since far cry this will be the norm. No reason not to have it(unless you're on a planet without it ). It's not exactly going to add aanything new to the 'game'. Water is water, it's reflections etc don't actually add gameplay, just looks cool.
THe same could be said for Per-Pixel Lighting The only difference is lightmap hacks can produce realistic enough results that developers can fit a bunch more stuff into the game instead of sacraficing a lot for the lighting system.

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137. Re: Why Doom3 Sucks... Sep 20, 2004, 14:04 BluestCheese
 
"George Lucas: Hey, what do you think of my new creature JarJar Binks?

Yesman: It's awesome! Just awesome! The public will love him & laugh along with him. Awesome!

.....

John Carmack: Hey what do you think of the game being dark everywhere. Pretty scary huh?

Yesman: It's awesome! Just awesome! The public will love it & jump at every triggered monster. Awesome! "


Pwnt.

 
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136. DNF Sep 20, 2004, 13:59 denniz
 
This game suxx big a$$! I'm not gonna spend my money on this. Oh no. Instead, I'll go back to hypersleep and wait for DNF to arrive. Wake me then allright?  
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135. Re: Im not so alone Sep 20, 2004, 12:04 Animals for Crackers
 
Doom 3 will tower over all the rest GO BUY IT and see for yourself when and if they ever release it.

Cheese, sound familiar? Biased fanboism if I've ever seen it.

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134. Re: Im not so alone Sep 20, 2004, 12:03 MindTrigger
 
Cheese,

Your post was so poorly written, that it actually caused me pain to read it.

As for DOOM3, I've been playing id games forever and I think DOOM3 was just "ok". The graphics didn't really shock me because lots of other games came out before it with many of the same features. The gameplay is vanilla FPS.

Fact is, I barely made it half way through the game before I got bored. I've enjoyed it so far, but it hasn't been good enough to keep me interested for long periods of time. I though Riddick's game play was more fun.

 
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133. Im not so alone Sep 20, 2004, 11:44 Cheese
 
And im not afraid to buck the trend and tell the truth either.

You MuscularBeaver and Mag are the ppl who want to be so liked that you Troll on boards just to agree with the majority so you can THINK your cool LOL

But your not.

And im not the only ppl who will at least admitt to liking Doom3, I mean who are you gamers that make other people suck yer pee pee so hard that they all automatically vote yes or no depending on whats the popular thing to do for that day. LOL

Get a Fing BACKBONE , F all you A holes that think Doom3 is bad , I think your nuts, and board.

 
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132. Why Doom3 Sucks... Sep 20, 2004, 11:07 Zephalephelah
 
George Lucas: Hey, what do you think of my new creature JarJar Binks?

Yesman: It's awesome! Just awesome! The public will love him & laugh along with him. Awesome!

.....

John Carmack: Hey what do you think of the game being dark everywhere. Pretty scary huh?

Yesman: It's awesome! Just awesome! The public will love it & jump at every triggered monster. Awesome!


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If someone just had the balls to tell them how much their game sucked ass we wouldn't be in the mess right now. FarCry > Doom3

 
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131. No subject Sep 20, 2004, 11:05 Animals for Crackers
 
realistic water: since far cry this will be the norm

The original AvP's water, while not reflective was definately very cool. It was polygonal and dynamic. So running around in puddles you could look down and see the water rippling away from you, hitting the walls and then rippling back. Damn that water was way ahead of it's time.

I've yet to see water in another game like that...even Farcry's doesn't stack up. Yes it looks pretty but that's about it.
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130. Re: No subject Sep 20, 2004, 07:42 Dante_uk
 
... is it even remotely possible to beat sarge on mightmare node??

Did you use the Soul Cube on him? That takes a good bit of his health away right off. Although, I havn't tried it in nightmare mode yet.

Carmack is still the best at producing game engines.

I don't know.. the Unreal people have done some good stuff as well. Their UnrealEngine3 is looking very good so far.

No the soulcube wasn't 'changed' unfornately - my bad.

Unreal3 looks very good but until we actually see it in a released game it doesn't count.
Just remember Doom3 engine doesn't limit the number of ployies, it handle very large texture sizes, self shadowing can be turned on and you can create and add any shaders you like as new matrials so realistic water and coloured lightrays should all be possible with the current Doom3 engine. It's just a question of which gfx cards can keep the frame rate high enough to be playable.

 
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129. Re: No subject Sep 20, 2004, 07:33 Dante_uk
 
Monster closets and ammo traps - Nostalgia, takes me back to the original Doom games ( this is a remake after all ). Yes sometimes it did take away from the immersion but generally I stay 'in the game' and fretted over the old style traps when I wasn't playing it.

martian buddy lockers - agreed, bad idea. If they added a functional web browser to some of the terminals in the game that would have been cool.

That's still no reason to produce such an obtuse gameplay "gem" like the flashlight (And before you get started on "standard issue" this and "duct tape" that; just because you have a reason to explain it away DOES NOT suddenly turn a concept that isn't fun into one that is..)

Do you think the flashlight would be better if it attached to every weapon? or every weapon had a flashlight built into it? (soulcube??)
Should your marine do a little juggerling act at every weapon change to reattached/swap hands?
Do you think dark areas or unlite corners would be scary and make you walk around carefully, if everywhere you looked was lite up by your 'always' on touch and if there was something there you just click the mouse button and boom it's gone,run to next room.
Maybe you think they shouldn't have bothered with all those dark areas so you don't need a touch. Of couse then you don't really need realtime lighting so you can go back to precompiled lightmaps like HL & HL2 and everyother game.
A flashlight only works if it doesn't just produce light but also produces new shadows for everything it hits.

Sure maybe a flashlight with a battery that runs down would cool, but it just wouldn't work for some areas where there was no lighting at all. That wouldn't be fun at all.

wide open areas are only important for outdoor maps and even then only if you have jeeps/buggies etc ( which Q4 will have ) otherwise it's just a matter of taking longer to get to next objective. It doesn't matter if their are 20 different routes with a slightly different number of hostiles on each if you still haev to walk a mile to a specific door.

realistic water: since far cry this will be the norm. No reason not to have it(unless you're on a planet without it:) ). It's not exactly going to add aanything new to the 'game'. Water is water, it's reflections etc don't actually add gameplay, just looks cool.

 
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