Impending DOOM

[Aug 02, 2004, 10:36 am ET] - Share - Viewing Comments

A few DOOM 3 tidbits: Deciding to be part of the problem, Long-awaited Doom 3 leaked online is the BBC announcing the availability of the warezed version of DOOM 3, showing a surprising degree of familiarity with the piracy scene (thanks Indy Hunter). There are also DOOM 3 benchmarks on both Telus.net and VR-Zone Hardware. Also, the Bjorn3d.com Forums have a bunch of DOOM 3 screenshots they are collecting for their eventual review of the game. Finally 1up has posted what may well be the final DOOM 3 preview before the game's (legitimate) availability (and the first review is in today's reviews section as well).

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Re: Doom Dilemma

Aug 2, 2004, 12:14

m00t

Look - I understand that there are SOME people who download games/MP3s, etc, that would have never bought in the first place. I understand that. But to take that thought and say that ALL people who download were never going to buy is just plain ridiculous. Does the RIAA exagerrate it's statistics? Probably. But you can't go the other direction and say that NO money is lost due to pirating It is impossible to put a number on it. You cannot determine who would and who would not. It is simply not possible. So stating that $X is lost is patently false. If it were one single case of ingringement and no one else on the planet did it? Yeah you might be able to put a figure on it but in the scales we're talking about it's just not a reality. Is POTENTIAL money lost? Yes. Is it quantifiable? No. You can do polls. But that is still not going to be accurate. By dumping out a huge number like that they are trying to scare people in to getting tougher laws passed that will harm the consumer in the name of getting the RIAA/MPAA/whoever members more power and money. Look at what Orrin Hatch is trying to pass in congress right now. INDUCe is a joke. But if it passes it will not be a laughing matter. Hope you don't own a TiVo or a VCR... Classifying downloading games and mp3s and whatever as stealing weakens copyright. The penalties for stealing are potentially far less than that of felony copyright infringement.

		Date	Subject	Author
	1.	Aug 2, 10:40	OH NO	MMORPGHoD
	2.	Aug 2, 10:45	Re: OH NO	Dr.Del
	5.	Aug 2, 10:50	OH YEAH!	Leo
	6.	Aug 2, 10:51	Re: OH NO	Grounded
	3.	Aug 2, 10:46	Piracy	Chipper
	7.	Aug 2, 10:52	Re: Piracy	Hooley
	8.	Aug 2, 10:54	Re: Piracy	Hump
	9.	Aug 2, 10:55	Re: Piracy	Chipper
	11.	Aug 2, 10:56	Re: Piracy	Socksta
	15.	Aug 2, 11:02	Re: Piracy	Species8472
	16.	Aug 2, 11:05	EB- shipping DOOM 3 NOW!!!	Yuzzem
	18.	Aug 2, 11:08	Re: EB- shipping DOOM 3 NOW!!!	Sniper7
	19.	Aug 2, 11:11	Re: EB- shipping DOOM 3 NOW!!!	nin
	43.	Aug 2, 11:53	Re: EB- shipping DOOM 3 NOW!!!	Tango
	17.	Aug 2, 11:05	Re: Piracy	nin
	45.	Aug 2, 11:54	Re: Piracy	Hump
	58.	Aug 2, 12:19	Re: Piracy	SmyTTor
	65.	Aug 2, 12:26	Re: Piracy	Geese
	68.	Aug 2, 12:30	Re: Piracy	instant
	66.	Aug 2, 12:30	Re: Piracy	Ray Marden
	74.	Aug 2, 12:45	Re: Piracy	SmyTTor
	76.	Aug 2, 12:49	Re: Piracy	m00t
	77.	Aug 2, 12:52	Re: Piracy	SmyTTor
	78.	Aug 2, 12:55	Re: Piracy	Ray Marden
	14.	Aug 2, 11:01	Re: Piracy	nin
	22.	Aug 2, 11:11	Re: Piracy	sinner's saint
	4.	Aug 2, 10:49	No subject	space captain
	10.	Aug 2, 10:55	No subject	Elf Shot The Food
	12.	Aug 2, 10:57	No subject	space captain
	13.	Aug 2, 11:00	Impending Half-Life 2	Yuzzem
	20.	Aug 2, 11:11	No subject	Chipper
	21.	Aug 2, 11:11	No subject	Elf Shot The Food
	24.	Aug 2, 11:20	Re: No subject	Midnight
	23.	Aug 2, 11:13	Doom is good	MrAsh
	26.	Aug 2, 11:23	Re: Doom is good	Geese
	27.	Aug 2, 11:24	Re: Doom Dilemma	meezookeewee
	30.	Aug 2, 11:29	Re: Doom Dilemma	Big_Bear
	34.	Aug 2, 11:35	Re: Doom Dilemma	kanniballl
	36.	Aug 2, 11:41	Re: Doom Dilemma	Big_Bear
	39.	Aug 2, 11:49	Re: Doom Dilemma	Zdewd
	88.	Aug 2, 13:09	Re: Doom Dilemma	Celestial Toad
	35.	Aug 2, 11:38	Re: Doom Dilemma	m00t
	37.	Aug 2, 11:44	Re: Doom Dilemma	Geese
	40.	Aug 2, 11:50	Re: Doom Dilemma	BIGtrouble77
	42.	Aug 2, 11:52	Re: Doom Dilemma	m00t
	47.	Aug 2, 12:03	Re: Doom Dilemma	Geese
>>	56.	Aug 2, 12:14	Re: Doom Dilemma	m00t
	49.	Aug 2, 12:07	Re: Doom Dilemma	Mongrel
	51.	Aug 2, 12:12	Re: Doom Dilemma	Placid
	55.	Aug 2, 12:13	Re: Doom Dilemma	Ray Marden
	64.	Aug 2, 12:26	Re: Doom Dilemma	jm0ris0n
	71.	Aug 2, 12:32	Re: Doom Dilemma	Ray Marden
	72.	Aug 2, 12:33	Re: Doom Dilemma	jm0ris0n
	87.	Aug 2, 13:09	Re: Doom Dilemma	nin
	91.	Aug 2, 13:15	Re: Books vs Movies	Zathrus
	108.	Aug 2, 13:59	Re: Books vs Movies	Geese
	113.	Aug 2, 14:09	Re: Books vs Movies	m00t
	116.	Aug 2, 14:21	Re: Books vs Movies	SmyTTor
	115.	Aug 2, 14:18	Re: Books vs Movies	Hollowguy
	33.	Aug 2, 11:34	Re: Doom is good	Overon
	25.	Aug 2, 11:22	Upgraded Some More - 6800 GT	kanniballl
	28.	Aug 2, 11:29	Re: Upgraded Some More - 6800 GT	nin
	29.	Aug 2, 11:29	Re: Upgraded Some More - 6800 GT	Ray Marden
	31.	Aug 2, 11:31	Re: Upgraded Some More - 6800 GT	nin
	32.	Aug 2, 11:34	Re: Upgraded Some More - 6800 GT	Ray Marden
	38.	Aug 2, 11:47	Re: Upgraded Some More - 6800 GT	Frijoles
	44.	Aug 2, 11:54	Re: Upgraded Some More - 6800 GT	Ray Marden
	48.	Aug 2, 12:06	Re: Upgraded Some More - 6800 GT	space captain
	90.	Aug 2, 13:13	Re: Upgraded Some More - 6800 GT	Celestial Toad
	46.	Aug 2, 11:59	is it really?	VampiricuS
	54.	Aug 2, 12:12	Re:	Fantaz
	41.	Aug 2, 11:50	Re:	Rseman
	50.	Aug 2, 12:09	Buy it	richcz3
	52.	Aug 2, 12:12	Where are all the crappy systems?	Pigeon
	92.	Aug 2, 13:19	Re: Where are all the crappy systems?	kanniballl
	53.	Aug 2, 12:12	No subject	Hellbinder
	57.	Aug 2, 12:15	Regardless	famished
	59.	Aug 2, 12:21	Re: Regardless	Ray Marden
	69.	Aug 2, 12:31	Re: Regardless	famished
	70.	Aug 2, 12:32	Re: Regardless	instant
	73.	Aug 2, 12:43	Re: Regardless	beaves
	100.	Aug 2, 13:31	Re: Regardless	Tango
	60.	Aug 2, 12:21	Re: Regardless	MMORPGHoD
	61.	Aug 2, 12:22	Re: Regardless	Darks
	63.	Aug 2, 12:25	No subject	Jow
	67.	Aug 2, 12:30	Re: Regardless	m00t
	62.	Aug 2, 12:23	No subject	space captain
	75.	Aug 2, 12:48	Talk about leeching!	The Sentinel
	79.	Aug 2, 12:55	Re: Talk about leeching!	instant
	80.	Aug 2, 13:02	Re: Talk about leeching!	Gandhi
	83.	Aug 2, 13:05	Re: Talk about leeching!	The Sentinel
	86.	Aug 2, 13:08	Re: Talk about leeching!	Ray Marden
	104.	Aug 2, 13:41	Re: Talk about leeching!	Geese
	105.	Aug 2, 13:47	Re: Talk about leeching!	Tony!!!
	82.	Aug 2, 13:04	Re: Talk about leeching!	Orogogus
	85.	Aug 2, 13:08	Re: Talk about leeching!	instant
	97.	Aug 2, 13:24	Re: Talk about leeching!	Orogogus
	106.	Aug 2, 13:53	Re: Talk about leeching!	instant
	109.	Aug 2, 14:02	Re: Talk about leeching!	m00t
	112.	Aug 2, 14:09	Re: Talk about leeching!	instant
	126.	Aug 2, 14:45	Re: Talk about leeching!	kanniballl
	128.	Aug 2, 15:10	Re: Talk about leeching!	m00t
	129.	Aug 2, 15:13	Re: Talk about leeching!	instant
	130.	Aug 2, 15:18	Re: Talk about leeching!	m00t
	131.	Aug 2, 15:24	Re: Talk about leeching!	instant
	132.	Aug 2, 15:38	Re: Talk about leeching!	m00t
	133.	Aug 2, 15:39	Re: Talk about leeching!	instant
	137.	Aug 2, 15:51	Re: Talk about leeching!	kanniballl
	135.	Aug 2, 15:47	Re: Talk about leeching!	Vek
	136.	Aug 2, 15:49	Re: Talk about leeching!	Tango
	138.	Aug 2, 15:59	Re: Talk about leeching!	instant
	139.	Aug 2, 16:04	Re: Talk about leeching!	kanniballl
	140.	Aug 2, 16:04	Re: Talk about leeching!	kanniballl
	142.	Aug 2, 17:09	Re: Talk about leeching!	Tango
	114.	Aug 2, 14:16	Re: Talk about leeching!	banddirector
	84.	Aug 2, 13:06	Piracy: Sign of the times.	JosephBlowski
	102.	Aug 2, 13:37	Re: Piracy: Sign of the times.	sinner's saint
	110.	Aug 2, 14:04	Re: Piracy: Sign of the times.	kanniballl
	117.	Aug 2, 14:22	Re: Piracy: Sign of the times.	DDI
	118.	Aug 2, 14:23	Re: Piracy: Sign of the times.	instant
	127.	Aug 2, 15:07	Re: Piracy: Sign of the times.	JosephBlowski
	134.	Aug 2, 15:46	Re: Piracy: Sign of the times.	kanniballl
	81.	Aug 2, 13:03	No subject	richcz3
	89.	Aug 2, 13:10	No subject	instant
	95.	Aug 2, 13:21	Re: No subject	SmyTTor
	93.	Aug 2, 13:19	Enough!	Lonestar
	98.	Aug 2, 13:28	Re: Enough!	SmyTTor
	101.	Aug 2, 13:34	Re: Enough!	Tony!!!
	103.	Aug 2, 13:37	Re: Enough!	nin
	94.	Aug 2, 13:19	Got Doom3	Mad Midnight Bomber
	107.	Aug 2, 13:54	Re: Got Doom3	instant
	141.	Aug 2, 16:48	Re: Got Doom3	Mad Midnight Bomber
	143.	Aug 2, 17:10	Re: Got Doom3	AstroCreep
	148.	Aug 2, 20:23	Re: Got Doom3	m00t
	96.	Aug 2, 13:23	No subject	sauron
	99.	Aug 2, 13:29	to buy or not to buy..	Jay
	111.	Aug 2, 14:06	WTF?	Rethcir
	119.	Aug 2, 14:24	piracy fact or fiction	heroin
	120.	Aug 2, 14:31	Re: piracy fact or fiction	DDI
	123.	Aug 2, 14:37	Re: piracy fact or fiction	itzaaron
	125.	Aug 2, 14:43	Re: piracy fact or fiction	SmyTTor
	121.	Aug 2, 14:33	Re: piracy fact or fiction	SmyTTor
	122.	Aug 2, 14:37	wOOp! gamestop just called me.	Mono
	124.	Aug 2, 14:42	Demo	Hezekiah
	144.	Aug 2, 19:12	No subject	Hump
	145.	Aug 2, 19:18	GameStop	BDFD
	146.	Aug 2, 19:28	Re: GameStop	kanniballl
	147.	Aug 2, 19:51	Re: GameStop	Krovven
	152.	Aug 2, 21:20	EB	ZzeusS
	153.	Aug 2, 21:36	Re: EB	BDFD
	149.	Aug 2, 20:26	Re: GameStop	nin
	150.	Aug 2, 20:56	Re: GameStop	BDFD
	151.	Aug 2, 21:16	My specs playing Doom3	Mad Midnight Bomber
	154.	Aug 2, 22:38	an easy way to reduce piracy	Capn_Jibs
	155.	Aug 2, 22:55	Re: an easy way to reduce piracy	Ray Marden
	157.	Aug 3, 00:03	Re: an easy way to reduce piracy	Vek
	158.	Aug 3, 00:37	Re: an easy way to reduce piracy	jm0ris0n
	160.	Aug 3, 07:41	Re: an easy way to reduce piracy	Tr0n
	161.	Aug 3, 09:37	Re: an easy way to reduce piracy	jm0ris0n
	162.	Aug 3, 10:36	Re: an easy way to reduce piracy	jm0ris0n
	156.	Aug 2, 23:33	Good ATI overclock site	Capella
	159.	Aug 3, 06:59	Captn Jibs	instant
	163.	Aug 3, 12:34	No subject	Capn_Jibs
	164.	Aug 3, 17:37	Re: No subject	Krovven