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I got the BlueTruck back from the shop... the new shocks have been installed, but DrWrench discovered another issue with the suspension, it seems that a connector on the rear sway bar had disconnected, a further explanation for its rough ride lately. The thing here is that this is the third noticeable issue of this sort that has gone undiagnosed by the local dealer where they perform my scheduled maintenance. Prior to missing the sway bar (which is hanging literally an inch from the shock they discovered was leaking), they also failed to notice any brake wear through several tire rotations and such until the brakes were irreparable and needed replacing, and they also missed a broken hose through at least one oil change that involved inspecting the hoses and belts. Strike three and they are out... I guess I can only blame myself for this, though, as there are certainly enough folks out there who will testify that the car dealer is probably not the place to go for repairs and maintenance. I guess I now qualify as one of them. Yeesh.

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56. Re: Return of the Jedi DVD changes Jul 26, 2004, 18:44 nin
 
Ray:
Besides, I am sure they will just make the argument that, now that Vader is dead and has re-joined the force, he is visible in his purest form. Do not think about it too hard, though, because then the other issues (Yoda, Obi) cause problems...

That's the one thing I want an explanation on:

Obi - disappears on death

Yoda - disappears

Vader - body

QuiGon - body

Darth Maul - body

The only thing I can figure is (and this is total Lucas BS at it's finest) until a Jedi completes training, they are granted this rite / learn this trick.

Anybody know? Was it explained in a book, maybe? I remember someone posting (on this board) about how, in the books, Obi could appear and talk to Luke, but each time it became harder, until finally it was impossible.



Halsy:
I'd like to kick Lucas square in the nuts.

You and me, both. Han shoots first. Always. And I don't give a flying f$%* about Naboo and the damn gunguns. If George really wanted to make us happy, he'd kill JarJar in a gruesome death before the opening credits even rolled.

Oh, and screw the whole "midiclorians" idea, too...





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55. Re: Return of the Jedi DVD changes Jul 26, 2004, 18:33 Halsy
 
I'd like to kick Lucas square in the nuts.


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54. Hmmm...duh? Jul 26, 2004, 18:28 Lord Admiral
 
If you want to get your car fixed well and for cheap (if you know how to bargain), go to Long Island City, circa 21st street between 34th ave and 40th ave. LIE or GCP will both get you there. There are auto repair shops up the wazoo, most if not all with decent prices and usually with experienced mechanics to boot. You just have to look and act like you know what you're doing.

Unless your car's under warranty, dealerships are a bad place to get your car fixed. They will usually 1) overcharge you by a ton and 2) neglect to tell you about other problems or sabotage your car so that you'd have to go back for more, and for worse problems. If your car's under warranty, one trick is to get an oil change at your local mechanic (or at where I've just prescribed), have them inspect your car for problems, and then take it to the dealership to get it fixed. That way, if any other problems start cropping up that usually take a while to develop, you'd know it couldn't be natural wear and tear.

 
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53. Re: Return of the Jedi DVD changes Jul 26, 2004, 18:21 Ray Marden
 
Well, if you already saw the pictures of "burnt" Vader from Episode III...

Besides, I am sure they will just make the argument that, now that Vader is dead and has re-joined the force, he is visible in his purest form. Do not think about it too hard, though, because then the other issues (Yoda, Obi) cause problems...

Not having anything to say to Lucas; thinking the damage is done,
Ray

Edit: "burnt" instead of "burnts" D'oh.
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52. Re: Return of the Jedi DVD changes Jul 26, 2004, 18:19 Krovven
 
The de-masking is still the same. All I can say is that at least they didnt replace Alec Guiness with Ewan McGregor. However, even still this really makes no sense regardless, since veryone else shows up at the age they were when they died.

I've also heard rumors of Boba Fett's voice being re-dubbed with a New Zealand accent. But I havent downloaded disc one of the xVid to confirm this...not sure I want to.

 
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51. Re: Return of the Jedi DVD changes Jul 26, 2004, 18:11 JoeCool
 
I really wish Lucas would stop messing around with the original movies. These are screens of two changes from the upcoming DVDs.

http://www3.telus.net/dayzed1/jedi-Anakin.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/dayzed1/jedi-Naboo.jpg

Yuck thats retarded. How are they going ot explain the Dark Vader de-masking ?

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50. Return of the Jedi DVD changes Jul 26, 2004, 17:56 Krovven
 
I really wish Lucas would stop messing around with the original movies. These are screens of two changes from the upcoming DVDs.

http://www3.telus.net/dayzed1/jedi-Anakin.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/dayzed1/jedi-Naboo.jpg

 
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49. Re: N.H. Troopers bag their limit Jul 26, 2004, 17:00 offset
 
Um, I just wanted to mention that they were going 100mph according to the video. That is why I don't own a VW, they are too slow. I think 120mph is a lot more fun. They do deserve what they get to an extent I believe though. No need to be getting crazy with traffic around. I won't bother with road racing or weaving through cones (oops, I meant construction barrels). They should save that stuff for places where nobody is at, or better yet for the track. It isn't like there aren't enough track events to get it out of your system. But then again they will all be embarrased by the Subie owners there

 
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48. Re: oh, Jethro... Jul 26, 2004, 16:41 Jethro
 
Call it simplistic if that makes you fell better about yourself, but I did my homework. I forgot to mention that I also got a lot of information from Edmonds.com as well. And the CR-V is for my wife, so while I had input on what was a good purchase, the comfort, feel, ride, etc. was all up to her to decide. We did look at some other SUVs, but she didn't like the feel. Can't argue with that.

I'm not condemming all US cars. There are certainly highlights, and things that US automakers do much better than anyone else. The Corvette as you cited is a perfect example, but it's also produced in far fewer numbers than mainstream vehicles, so it's somewhat of an anomoly anyway. Also, I'll admit that the US automakers to tend to make very good trucks and off road vehicles. But these are also vehicles that aren't known for their comfort, and given the abuse they get are generally expected to have higher maintenance costs.

I guess my thoughts on the subject were more focused on everyday use passenger type vehicles that the average person can afford to drive. You can always find exceptions, I was speaking in general terms. Generally, I find American made autos to be inferior in quality to their Japanese and European counter-parts.

And my comment about the Honda CR-V being cheaper to maintain than the Ford Escape really wasn't about cost, it was meant to highlight that higher maintenance costs generally mean more time in the shop. The comment was focused more on quality than cost of upkeep.

So, to each their own. I buy what works for me, you buy what works for you. Maybe you think my view is simplistic, but it works for me. You have the time to work on your own vehicles, while I'd rather pay someone to do it for me. I'd rather spend my time doing other things, so for that I'm happy to spend the money. I'd just prefer to do it on scheduled times, rather than at random break downs. I've owned my Accord (which is a fully loaded EX by-the-way, far from entry level) for 5 years now, and have never had any problem with it. I've only visited the dealer for scheduled maintenance, never to fix anything that just "broke". That's what keeps me buying Hondas.

 
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47. Re: oh, Jethro... Jul 26, 2004, 16:40 nin
 
Hi, nin! Thanks for the welcome - and I was also sorta creeped when you first posted ...

You can blame Blue. He's mentioned you a couple of times (in a good way! :D). I tend to check out the profiles of posters I don't recognize and see if they're new, and if so, throw in a "Howdy", etc...



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46. Re: oh, Jethro... Jul 26, 2004, 16:34 Bronco
 
Hi, nin! Thanks for the welcome - and I was also sorta creeped when you first posted ...

Why not just change your nick to the correct one since the secret is out?

- Sports Car: C5 Chevy Corvette. 50K, and performnce you can't touch without spending at least 30 more. 'Nuff said.

They are beautiful.

you can buy a new Ram or F-150 work truck fully configured.

An F-150 for 14K? What does fully configured mean in your neck of the woods?

Maybe a Chevy for 14K but not a Ford.

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45. Re: N.H. Troopers bag their limit Jul 26, 2004, 16:21 Ray Marden
 
This is all terribly, terribly unscientific, but...

...manually having FRAPS start a timedemo at the start of the demo and maually having FRAPS end a timedemo when the end credits start folling up...

2004-07-26 13:11:39 - zoom3_v1_02
Frames: 12553 - Time: 324094ms - Avg: 38.732 - Min: 20 - Max: 102

If you want me to get a more full, robust recording, let me know. I am way too lazy to manually count up the times int eh per-second log of the full demo (of which, there was a lag of 0 FPS at both the start and end of the demo.)

Once EnTech clears up my PowerStrip issues, I will look into overclocking - I will make this an Ultra yet!

Wishing my god was a small, one-eyed tortoise :(,
Ray

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44. Re: oh, Jethro... Jul 26, 2004, 16:15 Halsy
 
I have a Honda Accord and it's great. However, I'm a Volvo man, and will be returning to them one of these days.

The only domestic car I'd ever consider owning is something out of the muscle car era. Anything past that, no thanks.


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43. Re: oh, Jethro... Jul 26, 2004, 16:13 JoeCool
 
The perpetually unnamed one

Thats a longass post.

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42. Re: oh, Jethro... Jul 26, 2004, 16:08 The perpetually unnamed one
 
Hi, nin! Thanks for the welcome - and I was also sorta creeped when you first posted ...

Now, Jethro - your oversimplification of the issues involved has you well suited for driving an Accord, and going to a dealer for service; not to mention trusting Consumer Reports as a valid automotive resource. CR is great for toasters and blenders and kid-safety stuff, but is abyssmal for anything high-tech or automotive. Just check their ideas on audio or computer "best buys" to learn that these folks have no eyes, ears or gonads.

To view either a vehicle or the company that made it as a single oragnic unit is in itself a ridiculous reduction of concept. Both are complex systems built upon several layers of subsystems. In addition, each vehicle has strengths and weaknesses versus its class competition, both in and out of its intended use sector, as does each company have strong and weak parts of its model line against each competitor in that class.

You have identified many of the strengths of the Japanese imports that have made them so ubiquitously popular - including a long wear cycle on many of the powertrain parts, and class-leading build quality on their entry-level vehicles.

Are imports *cheaper* to maintain? No way. Anybody who has EVER turned a wrench on their own car knows that Chev parts are the cheapest and easiest to find in the nation (this is not true all over the world). Try 15% cheaper than Ford, and maybe 35% cheaper than your import. This includes "wear parts" - and the Japanese still haven't invented the million-mile u-joint or brake rotor. The economics of parts are WAY different than that of full cars, re: tarriffs, domestic partnerships, etc...

And some import components just outright suck. Ask anyone who had a car with one of the generic (forgot the part number - made by nissan) japanese electronic transmissions that went into the early Infiniti M30s, Mazda minivans of the early 90's and the like - invariably dead at 65-80K and so costly to replace that it was better to junk the car.

To judge the domestic car market by your airport rentals is akin to judging the New York culinary experience with a Yankee Stadium hotdog. The horn honk is easily disabled BTW (do I hear an RTFM, anyone), and daytime running lights are not a domestic v. import issue.

Bottom line - your Accord is perfect for you. That's great. Personally, I've grown out of entry-level, front-drive, practicality-driven, low-torque, generically-styled, under-sized (for *my* body), mommymobiles. Nor do I drive a minivan. I also have two great garages that I love and trust, and occasionally do some work myself. So - my choices are different. In the same way that you identified the best bang for the the buck (and I wouldn't argue) for your segment (commuter/consumer reports reader) - here are some more class-leaders out there for people with OTHER needs than yours:

- Sports Car: C5 Chevy Corvette. 50K, and performnce you can't touch without spending at least 30 more. 'Nuff said.

- Pickup truck: For the same 14K you'd spend on a used Camry, you can buy a new Ram or F-150 work truck fully configured. $500 more gets yu a HEMI. Which would I rather drive? You gotta be kidding.

- Small SUV: Yeah, I've been in Honda CR-Vs, including a friend's brand new one last week...and I don't want to insult any other board readers...but Jethro - did you even bother test-driving, or checking the specs on the Jeep Liberty? Jeez, talk about class-leading...

- Street/Strip: 4-th gen (1998-2002) Camaro. Now on ebay for less than 8K in great numbers. First time in history you can get into a 13-second car for that kind of money, even without relative pricing.

And hey - don't get me wrong - I LOVE some import stuff. I ride a HONDA bike currently (VTX 1800). That's one of their strengths - along with Accords, F1 and Champ Car race engines, and lawn mowers.

I guess my two cents have run up to a dime by now.

PS: The reason your Honda costs 30% more that the comparable US unit is a combination of Tarriffs, Transport and greater dealer profit...not production or materials costs. Think about it for a second, Jethro.

 
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41. Re: N.H. Troopers bag their limit Jul 26, 2004, 16:08 JoeCool
 
The shadow areas ran really, really well - come to me, Doom 3!

Shadows are what kill me and my 4600 Senior Citizen Card. SWG is the worst when it comes to shadows sincce EVERYthing casts some sort of shadow. When I have shadows on I get 13 fps average on SWG when I turn them off I get 30+ (don't know since SOE limits SWG FPS to only 30 for network latency reasons). Thats why I decided toget a new card for doom3, since that game uses shadows like crazy.

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40. Re: N.H. Troopers bag their limit Jul 26, 2004, 15:56 Ray Marden
 
Does it keep a log? Else, I will have to |-|a><or Fraps.

On the low end, was doing about 27FPS. On the high end, did about 90FPS.

The shadow areas ran really, really well - come to me, Doom 3!

Going to look,
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39. Edit: Deleted (Double post - N/T) Jul 26, 2004, 15:55 Ray Marden
 

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38. Re: N.H. Troopers bag their limit Jul 26, 2004, 15:52 banddirector
 
Hey Ray, how does this run on the 6800GT?

Ray and I seem to have similar specs, and I would guess it averaged about 40 or so (it was tough to tell because it bounced between 30 and 50+) ...

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37. Re: N.H. Troopers bag their limit Jul 26, 2004, 15:49 JoeCool
 
Hey Ray, how does this run on the 6800GT?
http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=/parties/2003/assembly03/in64/zoom3_v1_02_final.zip&fileinfo
On a 5900 it averaged around 25FPS, on a 9800XT around 30FPS.

And on ti4600 about 13

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