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The Duke Nukem Forever Release Update on TotalVideoGames (thanks Mike Martinez) is another of those occasional pot-stirring stories about the long-time in-development shooter, based on a quote that was attempting to do just the opposite. The story reproduces a quote from 3D Realms' George Broussard explaining why they are staying low-key at this time, as he reveals that they are still not that close to completion:

“IMO, it's more abusive to the community to continue to talk about and show the game when it's not real close to release. What's the point of leading people on? The best thing we can, and should do, is to shut up, finish the game and start showing it and talking about it when it's near enough release that people can actually see light at the end of the tunnel.”

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80. No subject Jun 7, 2004, 19:36 Riley Pizt
 
(I haven't read through all of these messages, so excuse me if this has already been stated.)

The problem with Duke Nukem Forever is simply that 3D Realms keeps switching engines because it fears the game won't look better than everything else out when its released. What the company should have done is simply finished what it had started and not worried about trying to best the look of every new game coming out.

Even if 3DRealms had stuck with the Quake 2 engine it originally chose, it could still have made a respectable game with it. Quake 1 & 2 engine mods like Tenebrae and Quake2Max clearly demonstrate that even an old engine can be retrofitted to look good.

From a financial perspective, it would have been much better for 3DRealms to release 3 or 4 lesser Duke Nukem PC games over this time that try to make one "killer title."

The bottom line is that Duke Nukem Forever won't ever be released because there is some other game which will always be better looking just around the corner.

This comment was edited on Jun 7, 19:37.
 
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  4. Jun 7, 11:27  It's a coverup. Breadman86
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  44. Jun 7, 13:50   Re: It's a coverup. Bronco
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  29. Jun 7, 13:00    Really... Taco Joe
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