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Re: Devil's Advocate |
Apr 22, 2004, 15:39 |
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Hmm, then how and why did that family scrape up the money to buy a computer? Obviously, they are not going to be buying the latest copy of MS Office, but they can probably afford an older version as a one-time investment for $30. Playing games is a luxury, like buying an expensive car, and if you can't afford one you don't have any right to go out and steal it.
And I am not assuming that everyone who pirates games has the money to buy all the games they pirate. I am simply mentioning that in my experience, ppl who pirate games definitely have had the money to buy at least a few of them, but that doesn't stop them. My acquaintances have at least as good financial situations as I do (a few definitely better), and yet that didn't stop me from buying and enjoying a few quality games, and them from having a huge library of games yet paying $0. |
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Apr 22, 2004, 15:26 |
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Oh come on, giving EA Games more money isn't going to make Nightfire a better game. And how is this aggressive attack going to work? Just a few short years ago, "aggressive" campaigns were launched against the illegal drug industry in South America. Millions of dollars of the tax-paying middle class I am a part of were put into an effort whose end is not obtainable. Esteban D. Lord is still a millionaire from his hashish crops sold throughout America.
The fact is there is no constitutional means to stop acts such as contraband retailing. Why? Because demand will always be in domination. In this country, if there is a demand for anything, rest assured somebody will create and maintain a market for it (prohibition anyone?). Operations like this and all others launched against illegal products outright fail in the long run having wasted countless resources on a jaded goal.
In concurrence, the market could expand briefly. Less piracy provides some extra profits for companies. More profit creates more incentive, and new companies will enter the market. New companies provide more competetion which in turn provides games with higher production values. (The "trickle down" effect Bush's tax cuts supposedly provide for) In dissention, however, the effect of Operation Fastlink (et al) creates but a dent in the piracy industry. Profits may briefly rise... but marginally at best, and ertainly not in such a manner as to overhaul the industry noticbly to the consumer base at large.
So why bother? American culture runs on a cost-benefit scale, in which policy is rated based on who gets what and who provides it. Who is benefitting? I don't believe in the trickle down theory, so the CEO at EA Games is benefitting (assuming EA Games is an open stock company; it's irrelevant). Who is paying the cost? That's obvious enough, people like you and me: The hard-working middleclass. If you ask me, it's not worth it. The American political agenda has far more important things to deal with before it can get me worried about videogame quality drawbacks from piracy.
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Devil's Advocate |
Apr 22, 2004, 15:16 |
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Simply put: more money = better games.
You're assuming that everyone who pirates a game now, would have the money to shell out for them if they couldn't? The reason that software is pirated so much in South East Asia is that there is a rather huge gap between how much people earn and need to live on and the cost of software. Example, a family that can live on $500 a month, isn't about to spend $250 on Microsoft Office.
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Re: No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 15:12 |
The Truth |
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I also read a while back that Ashcroft will be cracking down on porn soon
NOOOOooooooooo
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Re: No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 15:03 |
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Oh please do explain THAT logic.
I'm not for drugs at all, but that seems to be a bit of an over generalization. I'd love to see some facts to prove that.
Yeah, I'll take "He was kidding, dumbass" for 300, Alex.
~Steve
P.S. Time to pack the bong!
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Apr 22, 2004, 14:51 |
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Thanks for the informative essay, professor.
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Re: Wasted Resources |
Apr 22, 2004, 14:48 |
BlightCrawler |
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Well, it's better this than spending it spying on American citizens and dismantling our civil rights.
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Apr 22, 2004, 14:47 |
Ataneruo |
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I guess I don't understand your point about the war on drugs. I would respond that combating software piracy is in the interests of the gaming community because it will get us better games. Simply put: more money = better games. A company that has more money can afford to pay highly-skilled and creative workers. It can also afford to invest in potentially rewarding but risky game designs. And let's face it: piracy is RAMPANT in the gaming community, not to mention the world in general. My cousins here at home pirate games. My roommates in college pirated games. Both groups went so far as to plead with me to pirate games myself, and freely offered me pirated software. I don't know whether this was for misguided ideals or only to make themselves feel better, but the truth is, they are stealing from companies and hurting gaming, ESPECIALLY pc gaming, whose demise at the hands of consoles we all lament. I have no reason to believe that my experience is any different from most of you out there. No doubt a large part of pc gaming's money loss is due to how easy it is to copy pc games relative to console titles. So next time you complain about the high prices of games and decide to "save" some money and pirate a game, or criticize Ashcroft and his attempts to cut down on that sort of behavior, just stop and think for a couple of seconds.
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No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 14:41 |
Ajax |
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Oh really?
Oh please do explain THAT logic.
I'm not for drugs at all, but that seems to be a bit of an over generalization. I'd love to see some facts to prove that.
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Apr 22, 2004, 14:31 |
None |
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no need to combat software piracy. ease up on the war on islam.
obviously, the answer to society's problems is to expand the war on drugs. every hit you take off of that little glass one-hitter next to your keyboard is equivalent to a 7.62x39mm round in an american soldier's head.
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Re: No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 14:28 |
Ataneruo |
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p.s. sorry for double posting
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Re: No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 14:28 |
Ataneruo |
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"What the hell" is right. This action is obviously a good thing for the world, and the videogame community serves to benefit from this more than any other community out there. But it's politics and dumbass comments as usual. Please, try a little harder not to suck so much.
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Re: No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 14:28 |
Ataneruo |
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"What the hell" is right. This action is obviously a good thing for the world, and the videogame community serves to benefit from this more than any other community out there. But it's politics and dumbass comments as usual. Please, try a little harder not to suck so much
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No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 14:20 |
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What the hell?!? Don't we have a few more important things we can be doing with those resources than this? I also read a while back that Ashcroft will be cracking down on porn soon. I am glad that our tax dollars are going to good use and not being wasted. <- sarcasm.
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Re: No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 14:14 |
nin |
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Re: No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 14:02 |
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Does this mean they'll be shutting down Usenet (newsgroups)?
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Apr 22, 2004, 13:57 |
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Attorney General John Ashcroft announced today the most far-reaching and aggressive enforcement action ever undertaken against organizations involved in illegal intellectual property piracy over the Internet. Beginning yesterday morning, law enforcement from 10 countries and the United States conducted over 120 searches worldwide to dismantle some of the most well-known and prolific online piracy organizations.
“Intellectual property theft is a global problem that hurts economies around the world. To be effective, we must respond globally,” Attorney General Ashcroft said. “In the past 24 hours, working closely with our foreign law enforcement counterparts, we have moved aggressively to strike at the very core of the international online piracy world.”
Operation Fastlink is the culmination of four separate undercover investigations simultaneously being conducted by the FBI, coordinated by the FBI Cyber Division, and the U.S. Department of Justice, coordinated by the Computer Crimes and Intellectual Property Section (CCIPS) of the Criminal Division. As a result of Fastlink, over 120 total searches have been executed in the past 24 hours in 27 states and in 10 foreign countries. Foreign searches were conducted in Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, the Netherlands, Singapore, Sweden as well as Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Operation Fastlink is the largest multi-national law enforcement effort ever directed at online piracy. Nearly 100 individuals worldwide have been identified by the investigation to date, many of whom are the leaders or high-level members of various international piracy organizations. As the investigations continue, additional targets will be identified and pursued.
Wow!
Now only if they would put this much effort into the war on terror.
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No subject |
Apr 22, 2004, 13:51 |
nin |
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Here, let me be the first to hijack this thread...
This is just further proof that Asscroft has too much time on his hands...
edit: Oh, and I think we need an official icon for when a thread has been hijacked...
http://www.depechemode.com
This comment was edited on Apr 22, 13:52. |
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RollinThundr Apr 17, 2013, 12:25: Eh really tossing stuff like that in there only to get your panties all bunched up. If you really want to call that trolling sure.
Mr. Tact Apr 17, 2013, 12:33: Pretty sure that's the definition of trolling... |
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