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I had along-overdue visit with the eye doctor yesterday, though it turns out my
glasses prescription hasn't changed (I'm nearsighted), so the delay was of no
consequence. I forgot, however, to try to satisfy my curiosity when he asked me
if I had any questions, because I wanted to ask him his thoughts on that LASER
eye surgery (I'm guessing he gets that a lot). I will follow-up with him on this
directly soon enough, but I decided to lay some groundwork on the web...
searching for "LASER eye surgery problems" (naturally the aspect of this I am
most curious about) turned up enough of an abundance of results to turn anyone
off to the prospect. A more refined search for "Custom LASIK problems" was much
less pessimistic, though, with the majority of hits from eye doctor sites
discussing potential complications. Along the way I learned that the Custom
LASIK is also capable of coping with astigmatisms too (though mine is considered
quite mild to start with), so it's possible I'm a candidate for this. At this
point I admit to still being a bit doubtful about all this... I'm not much of a
gambler, and I'm reluctant to risk my vision in order to take the chance on
improving it, but I am still tugged by curiosity, so if anyone has any links or
information about the pros and cons of this procedure, I'd be very interested.
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Re: redefining marriage |
Apr 14, 2004, 08:01 |
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Still wrong. Democracy doesn't require elected representatives. Otherwise the term "representative democracy" would be redundant. I'm sorry, but this is just wrong. Trying not to sound like too much of an academic/twat, I have spent a long time in academic study, reading US democracy, and feel fairly confident I know what I'm talking about. While moral issues such as those we are discussing are not always easy to argue scientifically, the terms we use are clearly defined. Demorcracy, in the political science sense, is not majority rule. Please read a textbook if you wish to argue this point, I can't be bothered.
Who says everyone needs roads? Who says everyone needs a safety net? Common sense / inbuilt morals / ... I hate the "they just do" argument, but it is so obvious. (yes, it's obvious to me but that's a circular argument, don't bother) I admit the lack of web sources I can point you to, but again, do some kind of reading on the subject and you will see there are almost certainly 'natural' laws that mean in the absence of law we still know it to be 'wrong' to beat our neighbour to death with a club. Further, your argument that "if I don't pay for X then it doesn't infringe on your liberties" etc. is also flawed. There are two ways to think about this: the practical way and the theoretical way. Neither have anything to do with gay marriage, but more just to try and show you why liberty has nothing (in this sense) to do with income tax. First, the theory: This is an intro to 'Olson's Freerider Problem.' Jim lives in a city. He doesn't like walking home at night in the dark, so he wants a streetlamp outside his house. But if he buys one, his nextdoor neighbour Bob gets the benefit, having not paid for it - he is a freerider. Unless Bob chips in, Jim will not buy it. Therefore the government steps in, takes $5 off Jim, $5 off Bob, and plonks a streetlight down. This is basically why you pay taxes towards defence, roads etc - they would be underprovided if everyone else bought them themselves. It would be unfair not to point out that Olson's theory doesn't apply in every case you can think of, but in the case of public goods, it almost certainly does. The practical explaination: Imagine everyone except Jim pays taxes, and they all have roads, defence and all the yadda yadda. Jim decides not to pay, arguing that by not doing so, it doesn't infringe on Bob's liberties. But Bob is pissed off - he paid for these roads, the soldiers and every time Jim uses them, there is less for everyone else. Effectively, Jim is stealing from the rest of the country.
Oh? Because children cannot provide consent, right? See JediLuke's comments below.
Right, I am tiring of this argument, and usually come here for a gaming discussion. Morlock, I hope we can agree to disagree, and enjoy some form of gaming discussion on some future messageboard.
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Apr 9, 10:32 |
LASIK |
VogelAP |
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2. |
Apr 9, 10:41 |
Re: LASIK |
nin |
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5. |
Apr 9, 11:04 |
Re: LASIK |
Sphinx |
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23. |
Apr 9, 14:31 |
Re: LASIK |
Wraithiis |
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44. |
Apr 9, 22:10 |
removed |
langles |
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3. |
Apr 9, 11:00 |
Uh, hello? |
PoopStewart |
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25. |
Apr 9, 15:01 |
Re: Uh, hello? |
ExcessDan |
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4. |
Apr 9, 11:02 |
Vision |
Bronco |
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24. |
Apr 9, 14:40 |
Re: Vision |
Dr.Del |
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6. |
Apr 9, 11:15 |
lasik |
jeremiah |
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7. |
Apr 9, 11:39 |
Re: lasik |
Scottish Martial Arts |
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8. |
Apr 9, 11:39 |
Re: lasik |
ZzeusS |
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10. |
Apr 9, 12:09 |
Re: lasik |
Devster |
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9. |
Apr 9, 11:48 |
The most important thing |
zakk |
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11. |
Apr 9, 12:24 |
My own 2 cents |
Tooon |
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12. |
Apr 9, 12:32 |
LASIK |
N |
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13. |
Apr 9, 12:52 |
Get it! |
Mullen |
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14. |
Apr 9, 12:54 |
Spider-Man 2 |
Bunko |
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15. |
Apr 9, 13:02 |
Damn you LAZTEK! |
Fausticle |
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16. |
Apr 9, 13:20 |
Risk Analysis |
unaloony |
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17. |
Apr 9, 13:32 |
lazik |
j.c.f. |
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18. |
Apr 9, 13:38 |
LASIK |
WebDemon |
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19. |
Apr 9, 13:44 |
I thought about it also... |
Mr. Tact |
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20. |
Apr 9, 13:53 |
Contacts? |
Smoove |
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21. |
Apr 9, 14:15 |
Not for normal use? |
Mr. Tact |
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22. |
Apr 9, 14:28 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
Earthworm |
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32. |
Apr 9, 18:03 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
WaltC |
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33. |
Apr 9, 18:29 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
Bunko |
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40. |
Apr 9, 21:31 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
complicity |
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51. |
Apr 10, 02:06 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
Zathrus |
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26. |
Apr 9, 16:04 |
Lasik |
Creston |
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28. |
Apr 9, 17:03 |
Re: Lasik |
Enahs |
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29. |
Apr 9, 17:34 |
Re: Lasik |
nin |
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41. |
Apr 9, 21:39 |
Re: Lasik |
Ray Marden |
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47. |
Apr 10, 00:02 |
Re: Lasik |
Bronco |
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48. |
Apr 10, 00:29 |
Re: Lasik |
amygdala |
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61. |
Apr 10, 14:40 |
Re: Lasik |
HoSpanky |
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52. |
Apr 10, 02:10 |
Re: Lasik |
Ray Marden |
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53. |
Apr 10, 03:38 |
Re: Lasik |
bkg |
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55. |
Apr 10, 11:04 |
Re: Lasik |
Enahs |
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30. |
Apr 9, 17:34 |
Re: Lasik |
Bunko |
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31. |
Apr 9, 17:53 |
Re: Lasik |
Enahs |
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36. |
Apr 9, 20:23 |
Re: Lasik |
WarPig |
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37. |
Apr 9, 21:10 |
Re: Lasik |
Bronco |
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54. |
Apr 10, 04:53 |
Re: Lasik |
WarPig |
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38. |
Apr 9, 21:13 |
Re: Lasik |
Halsy |
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27. |
Apr 9, 16:06 |
Lasik Plus |
Spampire |
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34. |
Apr 9, 18:37 |
Some different feedback |
trog |
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56. |
Apr 10, 11:30 |
Re: Some different feedback |
Patrick |
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63. |
Apr 10, 15:32 |
Re: Some different feedback |
Dr.Del |
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35. |
Apr 9, 18:54 |
Come on... |
Halsy |
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39. |
Apr 9, 21:24 |
My real issue... |
Ray Marden |
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42. |
Apr 9, 22:01 |
Laser Eye Surgery |
BigSugar |
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43. |
Apr 9, 22:09 |
Bunny Whuppins |
BigSugar |
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45. |
Apr 9, 22:42 |
What amazes me |
Creston |
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46. |
Apr 9, 23:34 |
some thoughts |
halo |
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49. |
Apr 10, 01:33 |
Highly recommend Lasik |
babar |
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50. |
Apr 10, 01:56 |
LASIK |
Squelch Oil |
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57. |
Apr 10, 14:01 |
... |
Bunko |
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58. |
Apr 10, 14:17 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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59. |
Apr 10, 14:21 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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60. |
Apr 10, 14:34 |
Re: ... |
Bunko |
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Apr 10, 15:00 |
Re: ... |
Enahs |
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Apr 10, 15:48 |
Re: ... |
Halsy |
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66. |
Apr 10, 16:41 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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67. |
Apr 10, 16:57 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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Apr 10, 18:11 |
Re: ... |
Bunko |
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Apr 10, 18:59 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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Apr 10, 19:07 |
Re: ... |
Dantastic |
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Apr 10, 19:28 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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Apr 10, 19:36 |
Re: ... |
Dantastic |
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Apr 10, 19:41 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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Apr 10, 20:24 |
Re: ... |
Dantastic |
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79. |
Apr 10, 21:13 |
Re: ... |
JoeCool |
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Apr 10, 19:40 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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Apr 10, 21:14 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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81. |
Apr 10, 23:25 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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82. |
Apr 10, 23:46 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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83. |
Apr 11, 00:16 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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84. |
Apr 11, 00:27 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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85. |
Apr 11, 00:42 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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86. |
Apr 11, 00:48 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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87. |
Apr 11, 00:58 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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88. |
Apr 11, 01:07 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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90. |
Apr 11, 01:26 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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92. |
Apr 11, 01:32 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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97. |
Apr 11, 02:00 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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98. |
Apr 11, 02:11 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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101. |
Apr 11, 02:21 |
Re: ... |
Ray Marden |
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103. |
Apr 11, 02:23 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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89. |
Apr 11, 01:21 |
Re: ... |
complicity |
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91. |
Apr 11, 01:31 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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93. |
Apr 11, 01:42 |
Re: ... |
complicity |
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Apr 11, 01:44 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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96. |
Apr 11, 01:56 |
Re: ... |
complicity |
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99. |
Apr 11, 02:13 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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100. |
Apr 11, 02:19 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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104. |
Apr 11, 02:36 |
Re: ... |
complicity |
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112. |
Apr 11, 15:31 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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113. |
Apr 11, 16:13 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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114. |
Apr 11, 22:41 |
Re: ... |
JoeCool |
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116. |
Apr 12, 01:03 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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117. |
Apr 12, 01:08 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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119. |
Apr 12, 14:54 |
Holy Crap |
Moog Operator |
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120. |
Apr 12, 15:24 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JediLuke |
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121. |
Apr 12, 15:37 |
Re: Holy Crap |
Moog Operator |
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122. |
Apr 12, 15:52 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JediLuke |
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123. |
Apr 12, 15:59 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JoeCool |
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124. |
Apr 12, 16:03 |
Re: Holy Crap |
Moog Operator |
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125. |
Apr 12, 16:16 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JediLuke |
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126. |
Apr 12, 16:21 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JoeCool |
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127. |
Apr 12, 19:50 |
No subject |
Morlock |
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128. |
Apr 12, 20:48 |
Re: No subject |
JediLuke |
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129. |
Apr 12, 23:12 |
Re: No subject |
JediLuke |
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131. |
Apr 13, 10:11 |
Re: No subject |
Moog Operator |
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115. |
Apr 11, 22:42 |
Re: ... |
JoeCool |
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110. |
Apr 11, 02:59 |
Re: ... |
Zathrus |
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65. |
Apr 10, 16:16 |
Re: ... |
HIGH_PING |
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68. |
Apr 10, 17:18 |
Re: ... |
nin |
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69. |
Apr 10, 17:37 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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94. |
Apr 11, 01:44 |
Re: ... |
Ray Marden |
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102. |
Apr 11, 02:23 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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105. |
Apr 11, 02:38 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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106. |
Apr 11, 02:43 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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107. |
Apr 11, 02:52 |
Re: ... |
Morlock |
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111. |
Apr 11, 02:59 |
Re: ... |
complicity |
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Apr 11, 02:53 |
Re: ... |
complicity |
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109. |
Apr 11, 02:57 |
Re: ... |
JediLuke |
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118. |
Apr 12, 12:36 |
I love trolls, especially bigots |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 10, 18:52 |
The status of this thread... |
Dantastic |
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130. |
Apr 13, 09:33 |
$0.02 |
Tango |
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132. |
Apr 13, 10:44 |
Re: $0.02 |
bangersnmash |
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133. |
Apr 13, 11:13 |
Re: $0.02 |
JediLuke |
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Apr 13, 12:20 |
Re: $0.02 |
bangersnmash |
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Apr 13, 12:48 |
Re: $0.02 |
Tango |
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Apr 13, 12:57 |
Re: $0.02 |
JediLuke |
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140. |
Apr 13, 13:35 |
Re: $0.02 |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 13, 15:06 |
Re: $0.02 |
JediLuke |
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164. |
Apr 14, 16:59 |
Re: $0.02 |
bangersnmash |
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Apr 14, 17:26 |
Re: $0.02 |
Tango |
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167. |
Apr 14, 17:33 |
Re: $0.02 |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 14, 18:36 |
Re: $0.02 |
Morlock |
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Apr 15, 07:47 |
Re: $0.02 |
Tango |
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Apr 15, 13:41 |
Re: $0.02 |
Morlock |
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Apr 15, 13:54 |
Re: $0.02 |
nin |
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Re: $0.02 |
Morlock |
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Re: $0.02 |
Tango |
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Re: $0.02 |
bangersnmash |
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Apr 15, 13:03 |
Re: $0.02 |
Tango |
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Apr 15, 13:05 |
Re: $0.02 |
JediLuke |
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Apr 15, 15:32 |
Re: $0.02 |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 15, 18:20 |
Re: $0.02 |
Morlock |
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Apr 15, 20:10 |
Re: $0.02 |
Tango |
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Apr 15, 20:46 |
Re: $0.02 |
Morlock |
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Apr 15, 22:35 |
Re: $0.02 |
JediLuke |
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Apr 16, 08:29 |
Re: $0.02 |
bangersnmash |
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Apr 16, 13:32 |
Re: $0.02 |
JediLuke |
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Apr 17, 12:30 |
Re: $0.02 |
bangersnmash |
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Apr 17, 14:19 |
Re: $0.02 |
Morlock |
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Apr 17, 14:33 |
Re: $0.02 |
Morlock |
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Apr 17, 20:49 |
Re: $0.02 |
Tango |
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Apr 16, 07:16 |
Re: $0.02 |
Tango |
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Apr 16, 15:50 |
Re: $0.02 |
Morlock |
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Apr 16, 20:02 |
Re: $0.02 |
JediLuke |
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Apr 16, 10:51 |
Re: $0.02 |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 13, 11:20 |
Re: $0.02 |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 13, 11:26 |
Re: $0.02 |
nin |
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Apr 13, 11:29 |
Re: $0.02 |
JediLuke |
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Apr 13, 15:17 |
Re: $0.02 |
Bronco |
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Apr 13, 16:21 |
No subject |
Morlock |
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Apr 13, 16:38 |
Re: No subject |
JediLuke |
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Apr 13, 17:06 |
Re: No subject |
Tango |
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Apr 13, 17:39 |
Re: No subject |
Moog Operator |
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147. |
Apr 13, 19:33 |
Re: redefining marriage |
AirWreck |
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Apr 13, 19:38 |
Re: redefining marriage |
JediLuke |
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Apr 13, 23:05 |
Re: redefining marriage |
Morlock |
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Apr 13, 23:38 |
Re: redefining marriage |
JediLuke |
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Apr 14, 08:01 |
Re: redefining marriage |
Tango |
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Apr 14, 10:51 |
Re: redefining marriage |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 14, 10:56 |
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Moog Operator |
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JediLuke |
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Apr 14, 15:01 |
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Apr 14, 15:15 |
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JediLuke |
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Apr 14, 15:28 |
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Morlock |
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Tango |
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Apr 14, 16:19 |
Re: redefining marriage |
Morlock |
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Apr 14, 16:35 |
Re: redefining marriage |
JediLuke |
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Apr 14, 16:45 |
Re: redefining marriage |
Tango |
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Apr 14, 17:19 |
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