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I had along-overdue visit with the eye doctor yesterday, though it turns out my
glasses prescription hasn't changed (I'm nearsighted), so the delay was of no
consequence. I forgot, however, to try to satisfy my curiosity when he asked me
if I had any questions, because I wanted to ask him his thoughts on that LASER
eye surgery (I'm guessing he gets that a lot). I will follow-up with him on this
directly soon enough, but I decided to lay some groundwork on the web...
searching for "LASER eye surgery problems" (naturally the aspect of this I am
most curious about) turned up enough of an abundance of results to turn anyone
off to the prospect. A more refined search for "Custom LASIK problems" was much
less pessimistic, though, with the majority of hits from eye doctor sites
discussing potential complications. Along the way I learned that the Custom
LASIK is also capable of coping with astigmatisms too (though mine is considered
quite mild to start with), so it's possible I'm a candidate for this. At this
point I admit to still being a bit doubtful about all this... I'm not much of a
gambler, and I'm reluctant to risk my vision in order to take the chance on
improving it, but I am still tugged by curiosity, so if anyone has any links or
information about the pros and cons of this procedure, I'd be very interested.
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Apr 11, 2004, 02:21 |
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Are you just arguing the semantics of the word "marriage?"
To be honest, I would make the argument that you are, in fact, a homophobe, but that is another discussion.
Let us look at something like "war." What was it when it started? Groups of people fighting, what, fist to fist? Maybe groups of men fighting fist to fist?
So...if woment suddenly join the fight, is it no longer "war?"
If/when people fought with more than fists, was it no longer "war?"
In both cases, I think people would agree that the answer is "No." Either the word/meaning "war" evolved to encompass the new possibilities and circumastances or reverted to a much simpler definition (say, something like "At least two opposing groups fighting in some form.")
Back to the current discussion, that is what people are looking to happen with "marriage." They would either like the word to evolve to account for same-sex marriages or revert to a much simpler definition (say, something like "A joining of two people.")
Just because something has been previously written or follows a precedent, that does not necessarily make it correct or complete. Things can be wrong from the very start, people can evolve through time or increased intelligence, etc. I would point to things such acts of prejudice like sexism or racism as examples of this (old and new.)
Personally, I would ask what the problem is? Long ago, I got within one week of becoming married. Although things did not work out, I very much want to find that one special woman that really completes me and makes my life happy and full of passion. In a more abstract way, the loss of my mother has given me an even more profound understanding of how special and important love (of all types) is in life.
If somebody feels these same things, even just a shallow part of these things, with somebody from their own sex, more power to them. More power to anybody that finds love with somebody, wishes to marry them, and (ideally) spend their life with that person.
Ultimately, I don't think love should be a matter of "I love you if you do W," "I love you if you say X," "Ilove you if you are Y," or "I love you if you do Z."
I concede that many find my ideas peculiar and hold me as an idealist, but I think love should ultimately be
"I love................you."
Again, I hold marriage as a facet of love rather than gender.
Wondering what is so hard about that, Ray
----------------------------------------------------------------- To not comprehend life is completely absurd. http://users.ign.com/collection/RayMarden http://www.guzzlefish.com/collection.php?username=ray_marden I love you, mom. |
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Apr 9, 10:32 |
LASIK |
VogelAP |
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2. |
Apr 9, 10:41 |
Re: LASIK |
nin |
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5. |
Apr 9, 11:04 |
Re: LASIK |
Sphinx |
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23. |
Apr 9, 14:31 |
Re: LASIK |
Wraithiis |
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44. |
Apr 9, 22:10 |
removed |
langles |
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3. |
Apr 9, 11:00 |
Uh, hello? |
PoopStewart |
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25. |
Apr 9, 15:01 |
Re: Uh, hello? |
ExcessDan |
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4. |
Apr 9, 11:02 |
Vision |
Bronco |
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24. |
Apr 9, 14:40 |
Re: Vision |
Dr.Del |
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6. |
Apr 9, 11:15 |
lasik |
jeremiah |
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7. |
Apr 9, 11:39 |
Re: lasik |
Scottish Martial Arts |
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8. |
Apr 9, 11:39 |
Re: lasik |
ZzeusS |
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10. |
Apr 9, 12:09 |
Re: lasik |
Devster |
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9. |
Apr 9, 11:48 |
The most important thing |
zakk |
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11. |
Apr 9, 12:24 |
My own 2 cents |
Tooon |
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12. |
Apr 9, 12:32 |
LASIK |
N |
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13. |
Apr 9, 12:52 |
Get it! |
Mullen |
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14. |
Apr 9, 12:54 |
Spider-Man 2 |
Bunko |
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15. |
Apr 9, 13:02 |
Damn you LAZTEK! |
Fausticle |
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16. |
Apr 9, 13:20 |
Risk Analysis |
unaloony |
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17. |
Apr 9, 13:32 |
lazik |
j.c.f. |
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18. |
Apr 9, 13:38 |
LASIK |
WebDemon |
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19. |
Apr 9, 13:44 |
I thought about it also... |
Mr. Tact |
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20. |
Apr 9, 13:53 |
Contacts? |
Smoove |
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21. |
Apr 9, 14:15 |
Not for normal use? |
Mr. Tact |
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22. |
Apr 9, 14:28 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
Earthworm |
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32. |
Apr 9, 18:03 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
WaltC |
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33. |
Apr 9, 18:29 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
Bunko |
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40. |
Apr 9, 21:31 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
complicity |
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51. |
Apr 10, 02:06 |
Re: Not for normal use? |
Zathrus |
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26. |
Apr 9, 16:04 |
Lasik |
Creston |
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28. |
Apr 9, 17:03 |
Re: Lasik |
Enahs |
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29. |
Apr 9, 17:34 |
Re: Lasik |
nin |
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41. |
Apr 9, 21:39 |
Re: Lasik |
Ray Marden |
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47. |
Apr 10, 00:02 |
Re: Lasik |
Bronco |
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48. |
Apr 10, 00:29 |
Re: Lasik |
amygdala |
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Apr 10, 14:40 |
Re: Lasik |
HoSpanky |
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Apr 10, 02:10 |
Re: Lasik |
Ray Marden |
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Apr 10, 03:38 |
Re: Lasik |
bkg |
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Apr 10, 11:04 |
Re: Lasik |
Enahs |
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Apr 9, 17:34 |
Re: Lasik |
Bunko |
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Apr 9, 17:53 |
Re: Lasik |
Enahs |
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Apr 9, 20:23 |
Re: Lasik |
WarPig |
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Apr 9, 21:10 |
Re: Lasik |
Bronco |
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Apr 10, 04:53 |
Re: Lasik |
WarPig |
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Apr 9, 21:13 |
Re: Lasik |
Halsy |
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Apr 9, 16:06 |
Lasik Plus |
Spampire |
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Apr 9, 18:37 |
Some different feedback |
trog |
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Apr 10, 11:30 |
Re: Some different feedback |
Patrick |
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Apr 10, 15:32 |
Re: Some different feedback |
Dr.Del |
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35. |
Apr 9, 18:54 |
Come on... |
Halsy |
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39. |
Apr 9, 21:24 |
My real issue... |
Ray Marden |
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42. |
Apr 9, 22:01 |
Laser Eye Surgery |
BigSugar |
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43. |
Apr 9, 22:09 |
Bunny Whuppins |
BigSugar |
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45. |
Apr 9, 22:42 |
What amazes me |
Creston |
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46. |
Apr 9, 23:34 |
some thoughts |
halo |
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49. |
Apr 10, 01:33 |
Highly recommend Lasik |
babar |
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Apr 10, 01:56 |
LASIK |
Squelch Oil |
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Apr 10, 14:01 |
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JediLuke |
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Halsy |
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JediLuke |
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JediLuke |
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JediLuke |
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JediLuke |
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Morlock |
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JediLuke |
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Apr 11, 02:21 |
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Ray Marden |
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JediLuke |
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Apr 11, 01:21 |
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complicity |
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complicity |
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complicity |
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complicity |
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JediLuke |
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Apr 11, 22:41 |
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JediLuke |
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Apr 12, 14:54 |
Holy Crap |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 12, 15:24 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JediLuke |
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Apr 12, 15:37 |
Re: Holy Crap |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 12, 15:52 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JediLuke |
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Apr 12, 15:59 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JoeCool |
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Apr 12, 16:03 |
Re: Holy Crap |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 12, 16:16 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JediLuke |
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Apr 12, 16:21 |
Re: Holy Crap |
JoeCool |
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Apr 12, 19:50 |
No subject |
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Apr 12, 20:48 |
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JediLuke |
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Apr 12, 23:12 |
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JediLuke |
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Apr 13, 10:11 |
Re: No subject |
Moog Operator |
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Apr 11, 22:42 |
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JoeCool |
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Apr 11, 02:59 |
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Apr 10, 16:16 |
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Apr 10, 17:18 |
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nin |
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Apr 10, 17:37 |
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Morlock |
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Apr 11, 01:44 |
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Ray Marden |
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complicity |
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complicity |
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Apr 12, 12:36 |
I love trolls, especially bigots |
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Apr 10, 18:52 |
The status of this thread... |
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Apr 13, 09:33 |
$0.02 |
Tango |
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Re: $0.02 |
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Moog Operator |
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Apr 13, 19:33 |
Re: redefining marriage |
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Apr 13, 19:38 |
Re: redefining marriage |
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