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Ships Ahoy: Universal Combat

DreamCatcher Games sends word that Universal Combat is now available in-stores: "Universal Combat brings together the greatest components of any war, to a single game. Originally conceived as Battlecruiser Generations, the game has morphed into much more than a massive space sim, and its action-based focus caters to a much broader audience. 'Universal Combat is all about flexibility,' commented Richard Wah Kan, DreamCatcher’s President and CEO. 'Gamers can take on any number of roles and fight battles using a wealth of different weapons, craft and strategies.'"

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23. UPDATE Feb 8, 2004, 18:38 Cheese
 
IVE BEEN MISLEAD , its happened before

after you look past some fancy texture fixing and UGLY ground effects that mean mothing cause you drive thru everything no collision at all

ITS THE SAME GAME AS BCM was which was medium quality at best

Im so sorry for the misleading praise but i must fess up it HORRIBLE GAME LOL

 
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22. free will is better Feb 6, 2004, 20:34 space captain
 
speak for yourself

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21. Re: BCM Feb 6, 2004, 18:37 Tigger
 
Im no fan boy either

Sure your not. It's OK - we're all fanboys to our own particular games!



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20. BCM Feb 6, 2004, 17:58 Cheese
 
At first when i heard of this game i thought to myself ummm another company changing the name of a old title and rereleasing it under a new moniker.

Then I said to myself they just cant get away with doing this these days can they?

So i proceeded to the UniversalCombat web site to only comfirm my suspisions and lo n behold BOOM on there web site the game looks like a carbon cory of BCM.

Well to sum this up in this century I must say that even though the screens looked the same as BCM I just purchased Universal from Eb at $19.

Well well I think DS should be very angry at the universalcombat web site cause I almost didnt buy it cause of that, but i must say I CANT BELIVE THE GAME LOOKS THIS GOOD. ahhh now granted I didnt play it yet but I already know how BCM plays and I will get to it soon enough but the one problem i had with BCM is the graphics...

Now that it seems like up to date with the graphics i'll finish learning BCM/Universal Combat till my eyes bleed

Im no fan boy either if you read some of my rantings ive raked Derek accros the coals so to speak based on the graphics but based on the game code the man is a genius.

Call me what ever you like but dont call me while im playing UniversalCombat please.. thank you.....

Oh and Derek I dont blame you for being angry about the price but please understand you dont have the track record Gabe Newell or Adrian Carmack so stop with your big headed ness ok and take a bow on what happens to be the most complicated ,hopefuly playable game in the history of PC gamming..... Peace bro and Good Luck.

 
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19. Re: Beta NOT shipped Feb 6, 2004, 13:34 Tigger
 
Also, he says in the forums if the price is $20, he won't make any money and therefore there will be no patches.

If this is indeed true, he's going to have a hard time sueing DC for his loses. They could always counter-sue that he sabotaged games sales by making claims like that.

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18. stranger things have happened... Feb 6, 2004, 10:07 Hump
 
Hey, the game is on EB's best seller list (at the time of this post anyhow).

http://ebgames.com/ebx/categories/homepages/pcgames/default.asp



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17. Re: No subject Feb 6, 2004, 09:33 Blackhawk
 
He did not lose the suit - he just lost the injunction against DreamCatcher releasing the game at $19.99. All that would have done was prevent the game's release for a set period of time. That doesn't show that he was right or wrong, just that he couldn't prove that he would suffer damage by the game's being released at that price.

The actual suit (suits, actually) are still pending.

 
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16. About Demo... Feb 6, 2004, 06:48 The Half Elf
 
Good glad I have to own a previous copy of his game to play the demo, just means I don't have to waste my time with the demo and waste 20 bucks on universal Combat

 
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15. No subject Feb 6, 2004, 03:42 EvilGoof_Trollboy
 
there is a demo for this, but you have to own the previous game to get at it. was mentioned on homelanfed (and here) the other day http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=20417

the guys a fucking idiot

 
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14. Beta NOT shipped Feb 6, 2004, 02:05 Bob James
 
According to Smart's recent post on his forums, the game being sent to stores the final version, not beta. He gave it to the publisher and then they changed the price on him. (Stupid!).

Also, he says in the forums if the price is $20, he won't make any money and therefore there will be no patches.
 
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13. what a chump Feb 6, 2004, 01:40 space captain
 
Shit, do I even have to say it? I saw it comin, plenty of people here saw it comin... the man is a fucking moron when it comes to business dealings

"yes, im going to take on a giant multi-national corporation over a verbal dispute on the interpretation of a contractual agreement THEY CREATED... yes I will certainly win because I am the supreme ass commander"

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12. True Lies Feb 6, 2004, 01:21 Camaro76
 
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11. Re: No subject Feb 5, 2004, 23:28 John
 
No link? What good is this. How are we to find out more!

Here's a link: http://www.universalcombatgame.com/

...but where's the demo?

 
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10. Re: No subject Feb 5, 2004, 22:47 Tigger
 
He lost the suit!

And is taking it rather well. And he's even talking about doing a demo.

I'm pretty surprised.




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9. As far as patches go... Feb 5, 2004, 20:14 Cpt. Piloter
 
...there's always the fanbase. Remember what happened with ToEE and the fanmade patches?

With a game from Smart, though, that could take two or three different turns.

1) Fanbase is too small to contain those with the talent to fix the game. Result: No patches.

2) Fanbase contains those with talent, but they don't want to besmirch their lord high tin god by implying his work has flaws. Result: No patches.

3) Fanbase fixes everything. Result: Patches.

Of course, there's really no way to know whether this game, as shipped, is going to turn out as a bug-filled execution of a good concept (Street Legal, anyone?) or a reasonable value title. (Which is about all we can hope for.)

Time will tell.

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8. No subject Feb 5, 2004, 20:09 Shadowcat
 
So Universal Combat is released too early by its publisher, and it's full of bugs just like the release of BC3K. Yet unlike every other similar situation where people would blame the publisher, everyone is going to blame the developer because he's Derek Smart and therefore it must be his fault for making a game with bugs.

I'm not a Battlecruiser fan (never played it), and I've seen some shocking behaviour from Derek, and I suspect I wouldn't like the guy if I met him, but that doesn't somehow mean everything is automatically his fault. From the sounds of that whole lawsuit deal, he won't be able to fix the bugs either, which basically sucks for him as well as everyone else.

p.s. I realise no one has been particularly harsh in this thread so far, but I was semi-anticipating some other responses!
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7. Re: No subject Feb 5, 2004, 19:50 DDI
 
He lost the suit!

 
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6. Re: No subject Feb 5, 2004, 19:42 Enahs
 
I actually want this game to be good. I'm going to try it out then see if it's worth buying. BCM Gold was pretty good in my opinion.

Yes, I would love a demo! It could be good, anything is possible. It does have a lot of potential. But with Dereks track record, $20 is too much to spend if I have not played it.

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5. No subject Feb 5, 2004, 19:33 Jamil
 
I actually want this game to be good. I'm going to try it out then see if it's worth buying. BCM Gold was pretty good in my opinion.

 
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4. Re: No subject Feb 5, 2004, 18:44 Cyski
 
Um is it just me or was there no mention from Derek Smart(??) that it was gold a week ago?

That means they have released the beta which they had in December after all the shit a week ago

That man REALLY knows how to piss off publishers. Maybe he could get work as Simon Cowell's PR man - he seems to like being hated by everyone

 
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