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Florida City Aims to Curb Violent Computer Games has word on efforts to control access to violent games by minors in North Miami, Florida, spurred, in part, by the ongoing outrage over the "Kill the Haitians" line in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City that has caused so much controversy (which it is argued is taken out of context, as it refers to a specific gang). Word is: "The proposal, which won preliminary approval from the council this week but still has to go through a second vote, would impose a $250 fine on retailers who sell or rent to a minor, without parental approval, a game in which players kill or cause harm 'to a human form.'" The move has drawn criticism from the ACLU, and the article concludes with a reminder that comparable recent measures have ultimately been blocked or reversed: "A similar St. Louis County, Missouri, law was struck down by a federal appeals court, which ruled that games were a protected form of free speech, and a judge blocked a Washington state law that would have restricted sales of games depicting violence against law enforcement officers."

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15. No subject Jan 17, 2004, 23:17 RazorWynd
 
2054: zorgnaxian mind probes are to blame

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14. Oh Damn Jan 17, 2004, 23:08 TheNarcis
 
We should all sue sports stars and movie stars that are drug addicts for 'common' people drug addictions...

And me sue pR0n for my sex addiction...

 
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13. No subject Jan 17, 2004, 21:38 Percolator Fish
 
ohw ait to blame for what

 
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12. No subject Jan 17, 2004, 19:33 ildon
 
God not this crap again.

 
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11. Re: No subject Jan 17, 2004, 19:16 Krovven
 
you forgot

1970s: "Rock and Roll is still to blame."

 
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10. Re: No subject Jan 17, 2004, 19:04 Stolk
 
NO, we're in the US, where states and cities should have rights. Fortunately, we have the right to not live there.

 
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9. Re: No subject Jan 17, 2004, 17:42 JoeCool
 
I hope the ACLU blocks this thing. Where are we living in communist China?

 
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8. Re: No subject Jan 17, 2004, 17:04 nin
 
1950s: "Comic books are to blame."
1960s: "Rock and Roll is to blame."
1980s: "Rock and Roll is still to blame."
1990s: "TV is to blame."
2000s: "Video games are to blame."

Do we see a recurring trend here?


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7. No subject Jan 17, 2004, 16:33 NotOneOfUs
 
by the ongoing outrage over the "Kill the Haitians" line in Grand Theft Auto III that has caused so much controversy

That's in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Blue. Just a heads up.

 
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6. Re: 1984 Jan 17, 2004, 16:32 Halsy
 
So I guess they'll be banning the majority of movies, television and rap music in Florida too? What was that number again? Something to the effect that by a time kid reaches 18 he's seen 250,000 violent acts (simulated murders?) on television alone.

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5. No subject Jan 17, 2004, 16:07 AthlonSeven
 
Monkeydust, in the vernacular of Desert Combat. Agahooga!

What is so special about humans after all? Must people take themselves and their species so seriously?

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4. 1984 Jan 17, 2004, 15:54 monkeydust
 
"a game in which players kill or cause harm 'to a human form.'"

About every game that I can think of falls under this description. Even games like "The Sims" and "Super Mario Brothers" could fall under this proposal.

I guess they want everybody playing Tetris and Bejewelled.

 
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3. BS... Jan 17, 2004, 15:13 ZetaMaiL
 
This is not about censorship, it's about inciting violence," said Mayor Joe Celestin, a Haitian American. "We're going to take it all the way

No, It's all about fear, people don't want to admit it, but deep down inside, everyone is scared...They're scared that their kids are going to get shot up at school, scared that some "riot" will take place in which all the Hatians are selectively targeted. Peope are so dumb, their first impulse is to make this huge, obvious hissy fit which can basically be simplified down to pissing all over yourself in public and screaming about the pepsi that caused you to do so. It wouldn't be a problem if you weren't scared and looking for scapegoats in the first place huh?

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2. Re: Ok, explain this to me; Jan 17, 2004, 14:14 DDI
 
That court decision was the one that was appealled I believe. Welcome to the US Justice System.

 
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1. Ok, explain this to me; Jan 17, 2004, 13:46 MacD
 
If a recent court decision was that games don't faal under freedom of expression becuase they don't communicate ideas...then why would they have to banned for causin g harm to minors? Isn't that at the very least contradictory?

 
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