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Dec 9, 2003, 17:29 |
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And on the other hand...
Does anyone recall the furor over an old independantly produced 1980's Atari 2600 game cart called "Custer's Last Stand" (CLS)? In it the player as Custer had various options to sexually molest an Indian 'squaw' that was tied to a post. The public was shocked and outraged and the game was forcibly killed and recalled.
Yet the same arguments made defending GTA3 apply to CLS.
Yet again I've no doubt GTA3 defenders would be appalled at CLS, or at the "kill the negroes" Quake mod that popped up a few months ago, and would have no problem Banning THOSE games. Cuz those games are Bad and Wrong.
But oh no, not the Sacred Holy Righteous GTA3.
That game is Freedom of Expression which is clearly Different.
Right.
Game defenders and critics alike are equally guilty of phoney baloney convenient rationalizations, situation ethics, and selective hypocrisy.
Normally I'm all for censorship, but I'd actually stand up for GTA3 here, same as I stood up for Hitman 2 all those months ago. It's not targeting all people in that ethnic group, just a specific set, and with an arguably well founded reason.
Sexually molesting a squaw in CLS? That's a bit over the line really. Or killing niggers (oooh, I said it!) in a Quake mod... that's just outright racist. Are you killing the niggers because they moved in on your turf and stole your drug market (or whatever the reason in GTA3 is) or just because they're black? The thing is, in GTA3 it could be anyone involved. You could be killing people of any ethnic origin. The reason for killing them isn't their ethnic origin, it's their gang affiliation or whatever. Same as I'm sure you kill white gang members in the same game.
I doubt CLS featured the option to rape any white women.
That said, I find it interesting that we accept murder in games, yet decry sex type stuff. Mind you, I guess you can argue that killing someone achieves a goal for the greater good, whereas rape, it's fair to say, doesn't.
Edit added below:
It seems, having read this http://libertus.net/censor/fallacies.html#vg that the game was in fact entitled Custer's Revenge.
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Dec 9, 11:29 |
Haitians? |
Da Stylin' Rastan |
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Dec 9, 12:18 |
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Fingers M |
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Dec 9, 13:43 |
Re: Haitians? |
nin |
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Dec 9, 13:53 |
Re: Haitians? |
Michael Bolton's hair dresser |
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Dec 9, 14:05 |
Re: Haitians? |
nin |
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Dec 9, 14:29 |
Re: Haitians? |
bjbgraphics |
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Dec 9, 13:10 |
Gun pulled?! |
Santiago |
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Dec 9, 13:29 |
Re: Gun pulled?! |
Thera |
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Dec 9, 14:31 |
Re: Gun pulled?! |
Sphinx |
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Dec 9, 16:45 |
GTA3 and selective ethics |
FourPak |
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Dec 9, 16:59 |
Re: GTA3 and selective ethics |
FourPak |
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Dec 9, 16:59 |
Re: GTA3 and selective ethics |
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Dec 9, 17:58 |
Re: GTA3 and selective ethics |
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Dec 9, 18:12 |
Re: GTA3 and selective ethics |
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Dec 9, 17:29 |
Re: DX: IW (long...winded that is) |
Von Helmet |
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Dec 10, 10:01 |
Re: DX: IW (long...winded that is) |
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Dec 10, 10:17 |
Re: DX: IW (long...winded that is) |
Von Helmet |
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Dec 10, 13:03 |
Re: DX: IW (long...winded that is) |
bjbgraphics |
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Dec 9, 13:38 |
No subject |
Michael Bolton's hair dresser |
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Dec 9, 15:27 |
defending GTA |
HIGH_PING |
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Dec 9, 15:53 |
GTA Mod |
the_nemesis |
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Dec 9, 16:03 |
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