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Counter-Strike: Condition Zero Gold

On Condition Zero's Buy System on Shacknews (thanks Dr. Del) is a forum thread that includes a post from Valve's Gabe Newell that helps sort out a couple of seemingly contradictory bits, word that the game would be gold as of last Friday (story) and subsequent word that the game was in the hands of a new developer, Turtle Rock Studios (story). The update includes an e-mail from Turtle Rock confirming their participation, along with a very low-key gold announcement from the Valve managing director: "Yes, Condition Zero went gold on Friday. It will be in stores and on Steam November 18th."

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17. Re: Release to Steam Oct 15, 2003, 18:10 Zephalephelah
 
"Maybe I missed something...but isn't Steam "Valve's new way of getting games into your hands ASAP"? If thats the case, why is CZ being released to Steam on the same day that CZ is going to be in stores."

That's a good question. I suppose that a good answer would be that releasing on the same date gives people a chance to choose. Will the people say that I'll just download it from Steam because its more convenient? Will the people say, I'll just download it from Steam because its $5 cheaper & I don't need the box anyway?

That's enough what-ifs for them to get numbers. If they also release it earlier, then that will just screw up their numbers too much. It becomes much harder to demographic with too many possible reasonings. Although, they could put out a manditory survey. You hit cancel & it goes back one screen, so you have no choice but to fill it out. Then they would have their data.

 
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16. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 15, 2003, 12:17 Snag
 
If it went gold, that means they are done and it is going to duplication. There is no 3 weeks to work on it. It is "done". That is what "gold" means.

I dunno what to think of Valve now. First it is done, then it is not, then it is going to a new developer now it is done...I am starting to side with ANON. Quit fucking lying to us. Or at the very least be straight with us.

 
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15. Release to Steam Oct 15, 2003, 08:52 Tigger
 
Maybe I missed something...but isn't Steam "Valve's new way of getting games into your hands ASAP"? If thats the case, why is CZ being released to Steam on the same day that CZ is going to be in stores.



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14. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 15, 2003, 06:46 Panick
 
did i miss something?....

 
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13. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 23:15 L0cky
 
/me pours sauce on his hat

 
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12. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 22:52 Scottish Martial Arts
 
A SNAKE! A SNAKE! WATCHOUT ITS A SNAKE! Its a ....

 
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11. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 22:23 Bunko
 
MUSHROOM! MUSHROOM!


Heh. I think Blue should post that Media of the Day again.

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10. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 21:44 Wowbagger_TIP
 
They gotta load a few more squirrels into STEAM and that takes time...

Steam would work better if they'd use badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers badgers....

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9. Re: Dont care Oct 14, 2003, 21:43 JoeBlack
 
Why would they fuck themselves over the loss of an asshat?

 
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8. Dont care Oct 14, 2003, 21:18 TangledThorns
 
Aint buying it. If I owned a Pentium 2 PC and this was the year 2000 then I might. But its not, so they can go fuck themselves.

 
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7. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 20:38 Bunko
 
squirrels
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6. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 19:53 nin
 
Why is there more then 30 days between the "gone gold" and the in store date? That's wierd.

They gotta load a few more squirrels into STEAM and that takes time...

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5. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 19:48 Ajax
 
All those reasons are valid reasons.........for not announcing the game is gold. If the game isn't done, don't tell people it is? Bah who knows. VALVe has lost a lot of respect in my eyes over the past few weeks with their mistakes. Maybe HL2 can fix that.

 
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4. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 19:39 Dr.Del
 
maybe part of it has to do with Steam... after all, releasing CZ on Steam would be a great test run before releasing HL2 on Steam... since the demand for HL2 is substantially higher resulting in increased loads on the Steam system.. so why not iron out the bugs using CZ as the initial Steam retail release?

just a thought...

another thing that has to do with it is the ANON leak of CZ... probably modifying code to prevent cheating, etc.. who knows..

and another reason could just be the last minute delays during 12-hour day crunch times, trying to find bugs, etc..

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3. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 19:36 Ajax
 
Why is there more then 30 days between the "gone gold" and the in store date? That's wierd.

I don't think it will do well, outside the hardcore CS market and the "On the fly" pick this game up for no special reason other than the box looks cool no one is interested in this piece of ancient history.

 
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2. Re: ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 19:35 Razor6
 
It sound almost like it really might not be gold. If it went gold last friday then that gives them 3 weeks, maybe a little more, to continue work before it should go off to duplication, assuming that would take 2 weeks.

 
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1. ZzzzZZzzzz Oct 14, 2003, 19:28 WarPig
 
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 
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