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Game Biz
Mystified by Code Theft (thanks Mike Martinez) and Half-Life
2 code leaked online (thanks Thor) have a mainstream reports on the Half-Life
2 code situation. Meanwhile, Shacknews
has more on the situation from Valve's Gabe Newell: 1) We've taken our
network connection down to pretty much a minimum. We're still finding machines
internally that have been compromised.
2) The suite of tools that the attacker was using included the modified version
of RemotelyAnywhere (basically a Remote Desktop-style remote admin tool), Haxker
Defender (a process, registry key and file hiding tool), the key logger, and
various networking utilities that allowed them to transfer files (compressors,
NetCat, and FTP). We also are pretty sure they were sniffing our network to
gather passwords and other information. Haxker Defender includes a file system
driver that allows an attacker to have stuff on your machine that is invisible,
unless you do something like mount the drive under another OS that has NTFS
support.
We have determined one way of detecting some infected machines, which is using a
connection viewer to detect connections to anomalous hosts external to our
network.
We still don't know their entry method.
3) In general, the community has been remarkably swift at tracking down the
sources of the leak. What would be most helpful now are IP addresses of the
people who were responsible for the intrusion or for the denial of service
attacks.
4) Also, please continue to send in URLs of websites hosting the source code.
We've been contacting people and asking them to take it down.
5) There's anecdotal evidence that other game developers have been targeted by
whoever attacked us. This hasn't been confirmed. We've been providing other game
developers with more detailed information about the exploits and evidence of
infiltration.
6) We're running a little bit blind with our network shut down, but it seems
like some of the press has picked up the story. I've been fielding calls from
the mainstream non-games, non-technical press.all day. Hopefully they will get
to report shortly what a mistake it is to piss off a whole bunch of gamers and
get them hunting you around the Internet.
For any information related to this, please send it to helpvalve@valvesoftware.com,
or you can always send to gaben@valvesoftware.com
as well.
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Re: Here comes another |
Oct 4, 2003, 16:40 |
Creston |
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1. Where did they say they only did this after two weeks? From the phrasing it could and probably did happen right after they discovered theft. No date was assigned to this event.
True, I just like being pessimistic Even so, they are still finding machines that have been compromised, and I have to ask why their entire network hasn't been blanked and reconstituted from the ground up. Reinstall your server, change your domain name, IP pool, new user id's, passwords, preferably a change in protocol etc. Unless they're hoping to find some trails on those infected machines, but considering that they had no clue from their own logs and sniffers (if they even had any) after two weeks, when Gabe went and asked the community for help, I'd imagine that there is not a whole lot to find. I hope they've at least been smart enough to take the machines with the source code etc OFF the network that's connected to the Internet, and that they WILL be smart enough to start developing on a separate network from now on.
4. Yeah, but you have to ask for them to take the property down before you can sue them when they don't comply
I guess I'm too used to Microsoft's Cease and Desist policies.
Creston
PS : Having every single computer hacking case get a life term
Which was never the intention, what the government said at the time was that it should be punishable by a MAXIMUM term of life in prison. Ie, if someone breaks into SAC NORAD and puts the entire country on Defcon 1. But it's still funny to me that something happens to a game developer, and clamoring goes up (not just here btw) for the perp to be burned at the stake. (Not that I care, actually.)
Creston
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Oct 4, 15:37 |
Owned!! |
LIQUID-SEX |
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Oct 4, 15:41 |
Re: Owned!! |
Dr.Del |
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Oct 4, 15:45 |
Re: Owned!! |
LIQUID-SEX |
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Oct 4, 15:45 |
Re: Owned!! |
eunichron |
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18. |
Oct 4, 17:05 |
Re: Owned!! |
VultureMAN |
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55. |
Oct 4, 22:44 |
Re: Owned!! |
IMugly |
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56. |
Oct 4, 22:55 |
nfo |
schraube |
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86. |
Oct 5, 09:06 |
Re: Owned!! |
raddish |
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5. |
Oct 4, 15:54 |
No subject |
DeadLee |
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6. |
Oct 4, 15:58 |
Re: No subject |
Enahs |
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8. |
Oct 4, 16:02 |
Re: No subject |
DeadLee |
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11. |
Oct 4, 16:10 |
Hope they catch the bastards... |
Paranoid Jack |
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12. |
Oct 4, 16:19 |
Re: Hope they catch the bastards... |
Creston |
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13. |
Oct 4, 16:23 |
Re: Hope they catch the bastards... |
Captain Beatdown |
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15. |
Oct 4, 16:39 |
Re: Hope they catch the bastards... |
Paranoid Jack |
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130. |
Oct 6, 23:01 |
Re: Hope they catch the bastards... |
Deliverance |
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131. |
Oct 7, 04:05 |
Re: Hope they catch the bastards... |
Bob |
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132. |
Oct 7, 05:15 |
No subject |
Bob |
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7. |
Oct 4, 15:59 |
No subject |
ExcessDan |
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9. |
Oct 4, 16:07 |
Makes me feel ill |
Ratty |
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10. |
Oct 4, 16:08 |
Here comes another |
Creston |
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14. |
Oct 4, 16:31 |
Re: Here comes another |
Undead Scottsman |
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16. |
Oct 4, 16:40 |
Re: Here comes another |
Creston |
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17. |
Oct 4, 16:46 |
Re: Here comes another |
Undead Scottsman |
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19. |
Oct 4, 17:10 |
Re: Here comes another |
m00t |
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21. |
Oct 4, 18:08 |
Re: Here comes another |
Creston |
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24. |
Oct 4, 18:14 |
Re: Here comes another |
Hump |
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28. |
Oct 4, 18:28 |
Re: Here comes another |
nin |
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84. |
Oct 5, 09:03 |
Re: Here comes another |
raddish |
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32. |
Oct 4, 18:56 |
Re: Here comes another |
m00t |
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23. |
Oct 4, 18:13 |
I'm not so certain... |
Nexus |
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33. |
Oct 4, 18:56 |
Internet explorer, Outlook |
BicycleRepairMan |
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35. |
Oct 4, 19:12 |
Re: Internet explorer, Outlook |
Marksman |
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37. |
Oct 4, 19:18 |
Re: Internet explorer, Outlook |
Undead Scottsman |
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40. |
Oct 4, 19:32 |
Re: Internet explorer, Outlook |
Hump |
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20. |
Oct 4, 18:07 |
Re: Here comes another |
DrGroove |
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22. |
Oct 4, 18:12 |
Re: Here comes another |
Creston |
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25. |
Oct 4, 18:19 |
Re: Here comes another |
DrGroove |
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26. |
Oct 4, 18:22 |
How much delay |
World war 3 |
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27. |
Oct 4, 18:25 |
Re: How much delay |
quazz |
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29. |
Oct 4, 18:29 |
Re: How much delay |
=TFM=Melvin |
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Oct 4, 18:38 |
Re: How much delay |
nin |
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31. |
Oct 4, 18:51 |
Re: How much delay |
Monty |
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85. |
Oct 5, 09:05 |
Re: Here comes another |
raddish |
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48. |
Oct 4, 21:55 |
Re: Here comes another |
werbwerb |
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136. |
Oct 7, 23:03 |
nm |
Snag |
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34. |
Oct 4, 19:03 |
guess who? |
dudeOne |
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36. |
Oct 4, 19:17 |
It just keeps getting worse |
Hump |
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39. |
Oct 4, 19:31 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
dudeOne |
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41. |
Oct 4, 19:34 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
Hump |
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43. |
Oct 4, 19:42 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
dudeOne |
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45. |
Oct 4, 20:00 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
The Truth |
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46. |
Oct 4, 20:20 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
Monty |
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47. |
Oct 4, 21:15 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
weeds |
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42. |
Oct 4, 19:40 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
quazz |
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57. |
Oct 4, 23:03 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
Hump |
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58. |
Oct 4, 23:15 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
Undead Scottsman |
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59. |
Oct 4, 23:20 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
Ralphus |
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60. |
Oct 4, 23:31 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
Paranoid Jack |
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Oct 4, 23:43 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
Hump |
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62. |
Oct 4, 23:50 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
the_culture |
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70. |
Oct 5, 01:12 |
Re: It just keeps getting worse |
ExcessDan |
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38. |
Oct 4, 19:29 |
Re: No subject |
weeds |
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44. |
Oct 4, 19:53 |
Prolonging the delay... |
Tim1_2 |
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49. |
Oct 4, 21:58 |
Imagine... |
Nexus |
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50. |
Oct 4, 21:58 |
No subject |
catskill |
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51. |
Oct 4, 22:04 |
btw |
Nexus |
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52. |
Oct 4, 22:18 |
What's the problem? |
Zephalephelah |
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53. |
Oct 4, 22:23 |
I still think this is all bullshit |
Zephalephelah |
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54. |
Oct 4, 22:27 |
Re: I still think this is all bullshit |
ZzeusS |
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Oct 4, 23:53 |
No subject |
sponge |
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64. |
Oct 5, 00:11 |
No subject |
D4rkKnight |
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65. |
Oct 5, 00:22 |
Hackers must be stopped |
Luka |
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68. |
Oct 5, 01:04 |
Re: Hackers must be stopped |
c r i s p y |
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71. |
Oct 5, 01:13 |
Re: Suicide concert |
Luka |
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Oct 5, 01:52 |
Re: Suicide concert |
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Oct 5, 03:38 |
Re: Suicide concert |
shul |
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Oct 5, 03:43 |
Re: Suicide concert |
Zephalephelah |
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Oct 5, 04:52 |
Re: Suicide concert |
Von Helmet |
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Oct 5, 09:10 |
Re: Suicide concert |
Hump |
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Oct 5, 10:30 |
Re: Suicide concert |
Bronco |
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Oct 5, 10:42 |
Re: Suicide concert |
Von Helmet |
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92. |
Oct 5, 10:59 |
FUCK VALVE & PETA |
Zephalephelah |
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77. |
Oct 5, 02:59 |
Re: Suicide concert |
c r i s p y |
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73. |
Oct 5, 02:01 |
Re: Hackers must be stopped |
Zephalephelah |
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74. |
Oct 5, 02:03 |
Re: Hackers must be stopped |
Ralphus |
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75. |
Oct 5, 02:14 |
Re: A HL-2 Game Out Already? |
Zephalephelah |
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66. |
Oct 5, 00:47 |
No subject |
VoodooV |
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Oct 5, 01:05 |
Re: No subject |
Wazootyman |
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Oct 5, 01:00 |
No subject |
VoodooV |
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76. |
Oct 5, 02:29 |
Speechless... |
F1 |
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Oct 5, 03:53 |
Re: Speechless... |
shul |
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Oct 5, 04:05 |
Re: Speechless... |
Soupkin |
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82. |
Oct 5, 04:28 |
Back on Track |
Zephalephelah |
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88. |
Oct 5, 10:03 |
No subject |
Brick |
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89. |
Oct 5, 10:14 |
Re: No subject |
Hooley |
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Oct 5, 11:26 |
Re: No subject |
weeds |
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98. |
Oct 5, 11:27 |
Re: No subject |
Ralphus |
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106. |
Oct 5, 15:59 |
how to say Nuclear... |
Brick |
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107. |
Oct 5, 16:51 |
Re: how to say Nuclear... |
Drewbacca |
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108. |
Oct 5, 19:31 |
Full |
Ralphus |
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109. |
Oct 5, 20:14 |
Re: Full |
The Truth |
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93. |
Oct 5, 11:04 |
HL2 |
Cheese |
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94. |
Oct 5, 11:09 |
Compiled |
Ralphus |
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95. |
Oct 5, 11:17 |
Re: HL2 |
weeds |
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96. |
Oct 5, 11:26 |
Re: HL2 |
DedEye |
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100. |
Oct 5, 12:56 |
Re: HL2 |
Marksman |
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101. |
Oct 5, 13:27 |
Re: HL2 |
Ralphus |
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99. |
Oct 5, 12:27 |
Justice |
Jay K. |
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102. |
Oct 5, 15:18 |
Re: Justice |
Snag |
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103. |
Oct 5, 15:46 |
Re: Justice |
Paranoid Jack |
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110. |
Oct 5, 20:55 |
Re: Justice |
Snag |
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111. |
Oct 5, 21:10 |
poor valve |
schraube |
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113. |
Oct 5, 21:45 |
Re: poor valve |
Enahs |
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114. |
Oct 5, 22:26 |
to 113 |
schraube |
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118. |
Oct 5, 23:08 |
Re: to 113 |
Enahs |
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119. |
Oct 5, 23:15 |
Re: to 118 |
schraube |
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Oct 11, 17:38 |
Re: to 118 |
anubis2442 |
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140. |
Oct 11, 17:39 |
Re: to 118 |
anubis2442 |
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116. |
Oct 5, 22:39 |
Re: poor valve |
Paranoid Jack |
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117. |
Oct 5, 22:48 |
Re: poor valve |
Snag |
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112. |
Oct 5, 21:23 |
Re: Justice |
Bronco |
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115. |
Oct 5, 22:34 |
Re: Justice |
Snag |
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104. |
Oct 5, 15:51 |
No subject |
ExcessDan |
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105. |
Oct 5, 15:57 |
Re: No subject |
Marksman |
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120. |
Oct 5, 23:30 |
No subject |
ExcessDan |
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121. |
Oct 6, 01:44 |
No subject |
Corky |
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122. |
Oct 6, 02:38 |
Re: 121 |
schraube |
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123. |
Oct 6, 04:23 |
Re: 121 |
Zephalephelah |
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137. |
Oct 7, 23:27 |
Feel it.. |
Deliverance |
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138. |
Oct 7, 23:27 |
Feel it.. |
Deliverance |
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124. |
Oct 6, 04:33 |
Re: Corky |
Zephalephelah |
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125. |
Oct 6, 04:44 |
Valve is a little STEAMED |
Guano |
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126. |
Oct 6, 05:43 |
Re: Valve is a little STEAMED |
Armengar |
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133. |
Oct 7, 06:00 |
Re: Valve is a little STEAMED |
vajbern |
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135. |
Oct 7, 15:43 |
Re: Valve is a little STEAMED |
islander |
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127. |
Oct 6, 16:07 |
Hardware cheats etc |
Nexus |
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128. |
Oct 6, 16:15 |
Re: Hardware cheats etc |
Von Helmet |
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129. |
Oct 6, 16:50 |
Arrr |
Nexus |
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134. |
Oct 7, 08:43 |
Re: Deliverance |
Nexus |
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