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Film vs. Games |
Sep 26, 2003, 00:27 |
NuclearOctopus |
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Alright kids, let's a have a talk about this release thing, specifically in regards to movies as compared with games. Why can moives ALWAYS make their releases? Have you ever, ever heard of a movie being delayed because it "just wasn't done?" I sure haven't; maybe because the studio didn't like the final cut, because the political climate was bad, whatever. But the films are always completed in some form or another, in fact, a final cut is done weeks, even months before the wide release date for press screenings, test screenings, festivals and the like. Why is this? Films are just as hard to make as games; organizing a huge group of people to show up on time, getting film permits, getting rights, contract negotiations, setting up, tearing down, pre and post production. Making a film is a MASSIVE undertaking, it's absolutely daunting. Beyond the raw logistics, things can and always do go wrong on just about any film shoot you can think of. The weather sucks (look at set damage that occured during a sandstorm in Episode I, yet they still got that out on it's original release date) on the day you're sopposed to shoot, someone doesn't show up, the film gets processed incorrectly, you have to reshoot a scene after looking at it in post. Shit happens; don't tell me that "games have bugs, films are smooth sailing" that's simply not true. If anything, the problems that occur during the creation of a motion picture stretch far beyond the bugs encountered when making a game.
So why can movies always make their releases? Dates that are set sometimes YEARS in advance? It's simple: the way movies are marketted today puts huge emphasis on the release date; look at gross figures from any of the recent large blockbusters, they all follow the same pattern: Huge openings, followed by steep drop offs. Movies nowadays make the majority of their earnings in the first week of their release and then fade into obscurity soon after, so it is imperitive that both the public is aware of the release date, and the studio releases the movie on time.
The point to my ramblings? This: there is nothing keeping developers from setting a realistic release date for their game, and then hitting that date on the nose, first try. The film industry manages to get all of their big titles out exactly when they say they will, game developers, given a realistic timetable and a little more dedication, can do the same.
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Sep 24, 00:19 |
No subject |
BrunoPuntzJones |
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2. |
Sep 24, 00:20 |
Re: No subject |
sc4r4b |
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3. |
Sep 24, 00:20 |
Re: No subject |
joeslim |
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21. |
Sep 24, 00:53 |
Re: No subject |
Yakuza |
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22. |
Sep 24, 00:55 |
No Biggie |
TangledThorns |
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46. |
Sep 24, 02:20 |
Re: No Biggie |
Darkhand Brackstone |
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50. |
Sep 24, 02:33 |
Re: No Biggie |
TangledThorns |
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58. |
Sep 24, 03:36 |
? |
Ouch |
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134. |
Sep 24, 14:15 |
So? |
Phalkin |
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189. |
Sep 25, 18:01 |
Re: No subject |
JooS10 |
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190. |
Sep 25, 19:25 |
Re: No subject |
TimothyB |
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191. |
Sep 25, 19:42 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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192. |
Sep 25, 20:06 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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194. |
Sep 25, 20:16 |
Re: No subject |
WarPig |
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196. |
Sep 25, 20:37 |
Re: No subject |
ReDeeMeR |
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4. |
Sep 24, 00:20 |
Finally |
Da Stylin' Rastan |
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5. |
Sep 24, 00:22 |
dammit |
Wiggamoe |
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6. |
Sep 24, 00:25 |
This thread is going to be ginourmous |
SidVicious |
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9. |
Sep 24, 00:32 |
Re: This thread is going to be ginourmous |
Leakey |
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7. |
Sep 24, 00:30 |
HAHA |
ExcessDan |
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8. |
Sep 24, 00:31 |
shacknews |
Wiggamoe |
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28. |
Sep 24, 01:31 |
Re: shacknews |
|o.O|Payback |
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30. |
Sep 24, 01:37 |
Re: shacknews |
|o.O|Payback |
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35. |
Sep 24, 01:49 |
Re: shacknews |
pancreas |
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36. |
Sep 24, 01:51 |
Re: shacknews |
Captain Beatdown |
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38. |
Sep 24, 01:54 |
Re: shacknews |
Dr.Del |
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40. |
Sep 24, 02:07 |
Re: shacknews |
Midnight |
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41. |
Sep 24, 02:09 |
Re: shacknews |
MindTrigger |
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42. |
Sep 24, 02:13 |
Re: shacknews |
Halo |
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43. |
Sep 24, 02:16 |
Re: shacknews |
MindTrigger |
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45. |
Sep 24, 02:17 |
OH NO |
DNForever |
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48. |
Sep 24, 02:26 |
Re: OH NO |
SuperguyA1 |
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49. |
Sep 24, 02:32 |
Re: OH NO |
TimothyB |
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52. |
Sep 24, 02:43 |
Re: OH NO |
Xombie |
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74. |
Sep 24, 06:42 |
Re: shacknews |
frag.machine |
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75. |
Sep 24, 06:50 |
Re: shacknews |
Valcron |
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76. |
Sep 24, 06:51 |
Anyone see |
Valcron |
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78. |
Sep 24, 07:00 |
Re: shacknews |
Mr Gar |
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84. |
Sep 24, 07:34 |
Re: shacknews |
Ihya |
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85. |
Sep 24, 07:40 |
hahahahahaha |
Shataan |
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86. |
Sep 24, 07:49 |
Re: hahahahahaha |
World war 3 |
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87. |
Sep 24, 07:55 |
Re: shacknews |
waxthirteen |
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88. |
Sep 24, 08:21 |
Re: shacknews |
Scottish Martial Arts |
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110. |
Sep 24, 10:29 |
KMFDM - WWIII |
sc4r4b |
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61. |
Sep 24, 04:35 |
Nvidia's fault |
Mr Gar |
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65. |
Sep 24, 04:54 |
No subject |
EvilGoof_Trollboy |
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145. |
Sep 24, 16:06 |
Re: Nvidia's fault |
Marksman |
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82. |
Sep 24, 07:23 |
Re: shacknews |
Beamer |
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83. |
Sep 24, 07:31 |
Re: shacknews |
Mr Gar |
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143. |
Sep 24, 15:33 |
Re: shacknews |
Tango |
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186. |
Sep 25, 15:35 |
Re: shacknews |
pancreas |
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187. |
Sep 25, 16:14 |
Re: shacknews |
TimothyB |
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31. |
Sep 24, 01:42 |
Re: shacknews |
Learned Hand |
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33. |
Sep 24, 01:48 |
Re: shacknews |
TimothyB |
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37. |
Sep 24, 01:52 |
Re: shacknews |
TimothyB |
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55. |
Sep 24, 03:12 |
Re: shacknews |
Dignan |
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56. |
Sep 24, 03:17 |
Re: shacknews |
Waachi |
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60. |
Sep 24, 04:19 |
Re: shacknews |
pancreas |
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64. |
Sep 24, 04:52 |
Re: shacknews |
TimothyB |
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71. |
Sep 24, 06:04 |
Re: shacknews |
S_Hole |
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10. |
Sep 24, 00:33 |
doom3 |
Wiggamoe |
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73. |
Sep 24, 06:29 |
Re: doom3 |
ildon |
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11. |
Sep 24, 00:34 |
WTG Valve! |
FloppyGrandma |
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15. |
Sep 24, 00:43 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Tyrlan |
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20. |
Sep 24, 00:52 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
TimothyB |
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23. |
Sep 24, 00:56 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Cartman |
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24. |
Sep 24, 01:01 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
TimothyB |
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25. |
Sep 24, 01:06 |
Re: No subject |
Nuhauser |
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95. |
Sep 24, 09:14 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Veggie |
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96. |
Sep 24, 09:21 |
after single player |
Serby |
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98. |
Sep 24, 09:25 |
Re: after single player |
weeds |
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101. |
Sep 24, 09:35 |
Re: after single player |
Serby |
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147. |
Sep 24, 16:17 |
Re: after single player |
Marksman |
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97. |
Sep 24, 09:24 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
weeds |
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102. |
Sep 24, 09:43 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Veggie |
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107. |
Sep 24, 10:21 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
IAMGOD |
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120. |
Sep 24, 11:49 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Bakura |
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99. |
Sep 24, 09:29 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Hump |
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12. |
Sep 24, 00:41 |
No subject |
Z |
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13. |
Sep 24, 00:42 |
Re: No subject |
ExcessDan |
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18. |
Sep 24, 00:52 |
Re: Re: No subject |
icDrAgon |
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14. |
Sep 24, 00:42 |
Re: No subject |
Vermilion |
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16. |
Sep 24, 00:48 |
Hahaha |
WarPig |
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17. |
Sep 24, 00:51 |
ps |
WarPig |
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19. |
Sep 24, 00:52 |
Figured as much... |
Cartman |
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26. |
Sep 24, 01:20 |
Oooh this is good... |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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27. |
Sep 24, 01:25 |
Re: Oooh this is good... |
[AIX]Hood |
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29. |
Sep 24, 01:36 |
No subject |
scottr |
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32. |
Sep 24, 01:44 |
pathetic |
ChaosEngine |
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34. |
Sep 24, 01:49 |
Re: pathetic |
Dr.Del |
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39. |
Sep 24, 02:05 |
VBG =) |
Rick |
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44. |
Sep 24, 02:16 |
No subject |
Enemy |
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47. |
Sep 24, 02:22 |
Motherf*cker! |
Halsy |
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51. |
Sep 24, 02:39 |
No subject |
future_man |
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53. |
Sep 24, 02:48 |
Keeping Occupied |
eunichron |
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54. |
Sep 24, 03:00 |
Retail |
TangledThorns |
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57. |
Sep 24, 03:34 |
No subject |
JediPunisher |
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59. |
Sep 24, 04:12 |
Re: No subject |
SM0k3 |
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62. |
Sep 24, 04:49 |
Sept 30th |
garry |
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63. |
Sep 24, 04:52 |
still bullsh*t |
Pugio |
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66. |
Sep 24, 04:56 |
nyeah |
Hump |
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67. |
Sep 24, 05:14 |
Re: nyeah |
garry |
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68. |
Sep 24, 05:21 |
Re: nyeah |
Mr Gar |
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89. |
Sep 24, 08:35 |
Re: nyeah |
Anvil |
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92. |
Sep 24, 08:57 |
Re: later the better |
Serby |
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93. |
Sep 24, 09:00 |
Re: nyeah |
nin |
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94. |
Sep 24, 09:03 |
Delayed? |
MyRealName |
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69. |
Sep 24, 05:26 |
Already know??? |
Jerzy |
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70. |
Sep 24, 05:42 |
Re: Already know??? |
garry |
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72. |
Sep 24, 06:24 |
nice |
ildon |
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77. |
Sep 24, 06:58 |
No subject |
Xero |
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237. |
Sep 29, 17:59 |
Re: No subject |
Nox |
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79. |
Sep 24, 07:15 |
STEAM(ing pile o' ****) |
lochwinnoch |
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80. |
Sep 24, 07:18 |
Steam? |
CrowFeather |
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178. |
Sep 25, 01:53 |
Re: Steam? |
ildon |
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179. |
Sep 25, 02:15 |
Re: Steam? |
Locke |
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185. |
Sep 25, 15:04 |
Re: Steam? |
IronMan |
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181. |
Sep 25, 02:37 |
Re: Steam? |
CrowFeather |
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182. |
Sep 25, 11:07 |
Re: Steam? |
KaRRiLLioN |
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81. |
Sep 24, 07:23 |
Yawn |
Creston |
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90. |
Sep 24, 08:54 |
No subject |
Rain |
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91. |
Sep 24, 08:57 |
Halo for PC |
NoGodForMe |
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100. |
Sep 24, 09:31 |
the sky is falling |
VoodooV |
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104. |
Sep 24, 09:51 |
Re: the sky is falling |
Jobz |
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105. |
Sep 24, 10:04 |
... |
Orosian |
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106. |
Sep 24, 10:09 |
Pre-orders |
Mr Gar |
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103. |
Sep 24, 09:47 |
Yes but |
Mopap |
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108. |
Sep 24, 10:22 |
If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
Pr0nestar |
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109. |
Sep 24, 10:29 |
Re: If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
IAMGOD |
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112. |
Sep 24, 10:33 |
Re: If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
Pr0nestar |
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113. |
Sep 24, 11:06 |
Re: If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
Pineapple Ferguson |
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238. |
Sep 29, 18:09 |
Re: If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
Nox |
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239. |
Sep 29, 22:47 |
Re: Nox |
Zephalephelah |
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111. |
Sep 24, 10:32 |
No subject |
NoGodForMe |
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118. |
Sep 24, 11:26 |
Re: No subject |
Mr Gar |
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119. |
Sep 24, 11:37 |
Oh well at least there's this... |
KaRRiLLioN |
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121. |
Sep 24, 11:50 |
Re: No subject |
ExcessDan |
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148. |
Sep 24, 16:21 |
Re: No subject |
Marksman |
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161. |
Sep 24, 19:03 |
Re: No subject |
CrowFeather |
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114. |
Sep 24, 11:08 |
Stop Your Incessant Whining Noobs. |
JeZZyBaLL |
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115. |
Sep 24, 11:10 |
Did you hear that? |
Slingblade |
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116. |
Sep 24, 11:12 |
The REAL reason for the delay of HL2 |
ZigZang |
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117. |
Sep 24, 11:21 |
Lied to? Only indirectly... |
mbowers |
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122. |
Sep 24, 11:55 |
SHUT UP |
garry |
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123. |
Sep 24, 12:01 |
HL2 tech Demo |
jm0ris0n |
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124. |
Sep 24, 12:05 |
Re: HL2 tech Demo |
jm0ris0n |
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125. |
Sep 24, 12:24 |
Re: HL2 tech Demo |
ReDeeMeR |
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126. |
Sep 24, 12:32 |
HL2 |
red_420 |
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127. |
Sep 24, 12:44 |
Re: HL2 |
Pr0nestar |
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128. |
Sep 24, 12:49 |
Re: HL2 |
Von Helmet |
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129. |
Sep 24, 12:57 |
Re: HL2 |
Typhon |
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130. |
Sep 24, 13:03 |
Re: HL2 |
red_420 |
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131. |
Sep 24, 13:16 |
Re: HL2 |
Von Helmet |
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132. |
Sep 24, 13:50 |
Re: HL2 |
red_420 |
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136. |
Sep 24, 14:21 |
Re: HL2 |
PsycSui |
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139. |
Sep 24, 14:46 |
Re: HL2 |
Von Helmet |
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166. |
Sep 24, 19:49 |
Re: HL2 |
CrowFeather |
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137. |
Sep 24, 14:24 |
Re: HL2 |
redink1 |
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133. |
Sep 24, 13:55 |
Wait a minute |
jackmh |
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135. |
Sep 24, 14:15 |
Why I laugh |
PsycSui |
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138. |
Sep 24, 14:26 |
the truth behind the delay: |
sweetjimmy |
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140. |
Sep 24, 15:15 |
What did you expect? |
Tim1_2 |
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142. |
Sep 24, 15:26 |
Re: What did you expect? |
VoodooV |
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141. |
Sep 24, 15:21 |
No subject |
Bunko |
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151. |
Sep 24, 17:22 |
Scotty, fire up the engines! |
LugNut |
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152. |
Sep 24, 17:27 |
Re: Scotty, fire up the engines! |
Ewok |
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144. |
Sep 24, 16:04 |
No subject |
Nonicknameforme |
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146. |
Sep 24, 16:17 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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149. |
Sep 24, 16:54 |
No subject |
ExcessDan |
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150. |
Sep 24, 17:11 |
Re: No subject |
nin |
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153. |
Sep 24, 17:44 |
No subject |
John |
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154. |
Sep 24, 17:45 |
No subject |
OCed_5150 |
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155. |
Sep 24, 17:50 |
No subject |
OCed_5150 |
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156. |
Sep 24, 17:54 |
No subject |
ExcessDan |
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159. |
Sep 24, 18:19 |
Re: No subject |
vacs |
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157. |
Sep 24, 18:12 |
HL2 delay... so what |
vacs |
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158. |
Sep 24, 18:16 |
Re: HL2 delay... so what |
ExcessDan |
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160. |
Sep 24, 18:46 |
Re: HL2 delay... so what |
Xenopulse |
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162. |
Sep 24, 19:11 |
April Fools! (2004) |
F1 |
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163. |
Sep 24, 19:24 |
UnDelayed? |
John Williams |
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164. |
Sep 24, 19:35 |
Re: UnDelayed? |
ExcessDan |
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165. |
Sep 24, 19:41 |
Re: UnDelayed? |
John Williams |
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167. |
Sep 24, 19:50 |
Re: UnDelayed? |
ReDeeMeR |
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168. |
Sep 24, 19:51 |
I know Exactly What Happened |
Zephalephelah |
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169. |
Sep 24, 20:50 |
No subject |
Kxmode |
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174. |
Sep 24, 23:23 |
Re: No subject |
Marksman |
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170. |
Sep 24, 21:17 |
Release Date |
Frozensun |
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171. |
Sep 24, 22:05 |
My 2 cents |
WarPig |
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172. |
Sep 24, 22:50 |
Re: My 2 cents |
sc4r4b |
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173. |
Sep 24, 23:09 |
another log on the fire |
VoodooV |
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175. |
Sep 24, 23:49 |
Valve is not accountable |
PsycSui |
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176. |
Sep 25, 01:26 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
WarPig |
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177. |
Sep 25, 01:38 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
TimothyB |
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184. |
Sep 25, 11:58 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Maskirovka |
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188. |
Sep 25, 16:38 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
PsycSui |
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199. |
Sep 25, 21:12 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
ildon |
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200. |
Sep 25, 21:57 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
TimothyB |
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201. |
Sep 25, 22:14 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
ReDeeMeR |
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202. |
Sep 25, 22:31 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Maskirovka |
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203. |
Sep 26, 00:20 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Bob |
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204. |
Sep 26, 00:24 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
pancreas |
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215. |
Sep 26, 18:42 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Slippy theClown |
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193. |
Sep 25, 20:06 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Creston |
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195. |
Sep 25, 20:16 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
MindTrigger |
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197. |
Sep 25, 20:47 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
PsycSui |
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198. |
Sep 25, 20:57 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Chance |
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180. |
Sep 25, 02:18 |
T-U-R-N-I-N-G B-L-U-E |
theAntiELVIS |
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183. |
Sep 25, 11:19 |
For those of you who missed it... |
Scott |
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205. |
Sep 26, 00:27 |
Film vs. Games |
NuclearOctopus |
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206. |
Sep 26, 04:26 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
PsycSui |
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207. |
Sep 26, 08:10 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
CrowFeather |
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209. |
Sep 26, 09:48 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
WarPig |
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210. |
Sep 26, 12:18 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
ReDeeMeR |
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211. |
Sep 26, 12:26 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
nin |
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212. |
Sep 26, 12:40 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
ReDeeMeR |
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213. |
Sep 26, 16:48 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
Creston |
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216. |
Sep 26, 18:44 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
PsycSui |
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217. |
Sep 26, 19:31 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
red_420 |
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218. |
Sep 27, 14:24 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
ReDeeMeR |
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219. |
Sep 27, 18:42 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
damocles |
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220. |
Sep 27, 19:28 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
WarPig |
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221. |
Sep 27, 21:25 |
Re: Film vs. Games & STEAM |
Zephalephelah |
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224. |
Sep 28, 09:27 |
Re: Film vs. Games & STEAM |
Undead Scottsman |
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225. |
Sep 28, 10:53 |
Re: Film vs. Games & STEAM |
Creston |
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226. |
Sep 28, 11:16 |
No subject |
damocles |
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227. |
Sep 28, 15:04 |
Re: No subject |
anon@24.76 |
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228. |
Sep 28, 15:49 |
Re: No subject |
damocles |
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232. |
Sep 28, 23:58 |
Re: No subject |
Vexar |
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235. |
Sep 29, 13:20 |
Re: No subject |
Waachi |
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231. |
Sep 28, 20:28 |
Re: Film vs. Games & STEAM |
Zephalephelah |
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236. |
Sep 29, 13:56 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
PsycSui |
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214. |
Sep 26, 18:06 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
deathbots |
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222. |
Sep 28, 05:29 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
famished |
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223. |
Sep 28, 06:21 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
L0cky |
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208. |
Sep 26, 09:17 |
No subject |
Button_Man |
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Sep 28, 18:55 |
VALVE |
Will |
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Sep 28, 19:23 |
Re: VALVE |
damocles |
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Sep 29, 05:38 |
bring on the games |
SirAnthony |
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Sep 29, 10:23 |
Re: bring on the games |
Halo |
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Sep 30, 15:56 |
damn |
natx |
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Sep 30, 16:16 |
Re: damn |
Bob |
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Oct 7, 11:25 |
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