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Valve is not accountable |
Sep 24, 2003, 23:49 |
PsycSui |
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Valve can say what they want and release HL2 when it want. You are not their boss, or their dad. Quit acting like Valve owes YOU something.
If it wasn't for Counter-Strike, Half-Life would be in the $9.99 bargain bin at EB.
Valve is arrogant. Not only that, but their marketing plan is evily good. The source engine does not have a single feature that the DOOM3 engine doesn't have, and yet it is heralded as the "engine of tomorrow." Ridiculous. They've boasted so much and generated so much hype about their new physics engine(which isn't even theirs) and DirectX9 shaders that they've actually made everyone forget about how amazing DOOM3 looked at E3 two years ago. Incredible.
VoodooV, Half-Life 2 being delayed is not a marketing scheme. That conspiracy idea is the most retarded thing ever posted on these boards, and that includes everything Fredrickson has ever said.
Games can't be released like movies. For one thing, timing the release with technology is vital, plus it takes a lot longer to make games than it does to make movies. And in the programming world, what you run into is the human factor: there is no such thing as bug free code. Here are some things to know about software development:
1) you never hit your release data.
2) there are always gigantic bugs found near the end of the project, resulting in massive amounts of time spent on fixing and testing said bugs.
3) Murphy's law: anything bad that can happen will happen. You guys may laugh at this, but it's true. Murphy lurks in code like some sort of ghost freak, and just when you're about to release, he fucks everything up.
99% of the time games slip. So do other applications. The human factor makes code un-perfect, and people always think they're faster than they really are.
Also, don't forget that humans wrote such tools as VB, Java, C++, etc. Our own coding languages aren't perfect either.
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1. |
Sep 24, 00:19 |
No subject |
BrunoPuntzJones |
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2. |
Sep 24, 00:20 |
Re: No subject |
sc4r4b |
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3. |
Sep 24, 00:20 |
Re: No subject |
joeslim |
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21. |
Sep 24, 00:53 |
Re: No subject |
Yakuza |
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22. |
Sep 24, 00:55 |
No Biggie |
TangledThorns |
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46. |
Sep 24, 02:20 |
Re: No Biggie |
Darkhand Brackstone |
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50. |
Sep 24, 02:33 |
Re: No Biggie |
TangledThorns |
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58. |
Sep 24, 03:36 |
? |
Ouch |
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134. |
Sep 24, 14:15 |
So? |
Phalkin |
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189. |
Sep 25, 18:01 |
Re: No subject |
JooS10 |
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190. |
Sep 25, 19:25 |
Re: No subject |
TimothyB |
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191. |
Sep 25, 19:42 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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192. |
Sep 25, 20:06 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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194. |
Sep 25, 20:16 |
Re: No subject |
WarPig |
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196. |
Sep 25, 20:37 |
Re: No subject |
ReDeeMeR |
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4. |
Sep 24, 00:20 |
Finally |
Da Stylin' Rastan |
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5. |
Sep 24, 00:22 |
dammit |
Wiggamoe |
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6. |
Sep 24, 00:25 |
This thread is going to be ginourmous |
SidVicious |
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9. |
Sep 24, 00:32 |
Re: This thread is going to be ginourmous |
Leakey |
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7. |
Sep 24, 00:30 |
HAHA |
ExcessDan |
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8. |
Sep 24, 00:31 |
shacknews |
Wiggamoe |
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28. |
Sep 24, 01:31 |
Re: shacknews |
|o.O|Payback |
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30. |
Sep 24, 01:37 |
Re: shacknews |
|o.O|Payback |
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35. |
Sep 24, 01:49 |
Re: shacknews |
pancreas |
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36. |
Sep 24, 01:51 |
Re: shacknews |
Captain Beatdown |
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38. |
Sep 24, 01:54 |
Re: shacknews |
Dr.Del |
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40. |
Sep 24, 02:07 |
Re: shacknews |
Midnight |
| |
41. |
Sep 24, 02:09 |
Re: shacknews |
MindTrigger |
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42. |
Sep 24, 02:13 |
Re: shacknews |
Halo |
| |
43. |
Sep 24, 02:16 |
Re: shacknews |
MindTrigger |
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45. |
Sep 24, 02:17 |
OH NO |
DNForever |
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48. |
Sep 24, 02:26 |
Re: OH NO |
SuperguyA1 |
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49. |
Sep 24, 02:32 |
Re: OH NO |
TimothyB |
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52. |
Sep 24, 02:43 |
Re: OH NO |
Xombie |
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74. |
Sep 24, 06:42 |
Re: shacknews |
frag.machine |
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75. |
Sep 24, 06:50 |
Re: shacknews |
Valcron |
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76. |
Sep 24, 06:51 |
Anyone see |
Valcron |
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78. |
Sep 24, 07:00 |
Re: shacknews |
Mr Gar |
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84. |
Sep 24, 07:34 |
Re: shacknews |
Ihya |
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85. |
Sep 24, 07:40 |
hahahahahaha |
Shataan |
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86. |
Sep 24, 07:49 |
Re: hahahahahaha |
World war 3 |
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87. |
Sep 24, 07:55 |
Re: shacknews |
waxthirteen |
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88. |
Sep 24, 08:21 |
Re: shacknews |
Scottish Martial Arts |
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110. |
Sep 24, 10:29 |
KMFDM - WWIII |
sc4r4b |
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61. |
Sep 24, 04:35 |
Nvidia's fault |
Mr Gar |
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65. |
Sep 24, 04:54 |
No subject |
EvilGoof_Trollboy |
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145. |
Sep 24, 16:06 |
Re: Nvidia's fault |
Marksman |
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82. |
Sep 24, 07:23 |
Re: shacknews |
Beamer |
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83. |
Sep 24, 07:31 |
Re: shacknews |
Mr Gar |
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143. |
Sep 24, 15:33 |
Re: shacknews |
Tango |
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186. |
Sep 25, 15:35 |
Re: shacknews |
pancreas |
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187. |
Sep 25, 16:14 |
Re: shacknews |
TimothyB |
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31. |
Sep 24, 01:42 |
Re: shacknews |
Learned Hand |
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33. |
Sep 24, 01:48 |
Re: shacknews |
TimothyB |
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37. |
Sep 24, 01:52 |
Re: shacknews |
TimothyB |
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55. |
Sep 24, 03:12 |
Re: shacknews |
Dignan |
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56. |
Sep 24, 03:17 |
Re: shacknews |
Waachi |
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60. |
Sep 24, 04:19 |
Re: shacknews |
pancreas |
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64. |
Sep 24, 04:52 |
Re: shacknews |
TimothyB |
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71. |
Sep 24, 06:04 |
Re: shacknews |
S_Hole |
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10. |
Sep 24, 00:33 |
doom3 |
Wiggamoe |
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73. |
Sep 24, 06:29 |
Re: doom3 |
ildon |
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11. |
Sep 24, 00:34 |
WTG Valve! |
FloppyGrandma |
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15. |
Sep 24, 00:43 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Tyrlan |
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20. |
Sep 24, 00:52 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
TimothyB |
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23. |
Sep 24, 00:56 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Cartman |
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24. |
Sep 24, 01:01 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
TimothyB |
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25. |
Sep 24, 01:06 |
Re: No subject |
Nuhauser |
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95. |
Sep 24, 09:14 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Veggie |
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96. |
Sep 24, 09:21 |
after single player |
Serby |
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98. |
Sep 24, 09:25 |
Re: after single player |
weeds |
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101. |
Sep 24, 09:35 |
Re: after single player |
Serby |
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147. |
Sep 24, 16:17 |
Re: after single player |
Marksman |
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97. |
Sep 24, 09:24 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
weeds |
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102. |
Sep 24, 09:43 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Veggie |
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107. |
Sep 24, 10:21 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
IAMGOD |
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120. |
Sep 24, 11:49 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Bakura |
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99. |
Sep 24, 09:29 |
Re: WTG Valve! |
Hump |
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12. |
Sep 24, 00:41 |
No subject |
Z |
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13. |
Sep 24, 00:42 |
Re: No subject |
ExcessDan |
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18. |
Sep 24, 00:52 |
Re: Re: No subject |
icDrAgon |
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14. |
Sep 24, 00:42 |
Re: No subject |
Vermilion |
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16. |
Sep 24, 00:48 |
Hahaha |
WarPig |
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17. |
Sep 24, 00:51 |
ps |
WarPig |
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19. |
Sep 24, 00:52 |
Figured as much... |
Cartman |
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26. |
Sep 24, 01:20 |
Oooh this is good... |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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27. |
Sep 24, 01:25 |
Re: Oooh this is good... |
[AIX]Hood |
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29. |
Sep 24, 01:36 |
No subject |
scottr |
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32. |
Sep 24, 01:44 |
pathetic |
ChaosEngine |
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34. |
Sep 24, 01:49 |
Re: pathetic |
Dr.Del |
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39. |
Sep 24, 02:05 |
VBG =) |
Rick |
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44. |
Sep 24, 02:16 |
No subject |
Enemy |
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47. |
Sep 24, 02:22 |
Motherf*cker! |
Halsy |
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51. |
Sep 24, 02:39 |
No subject |
future_man |
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53. |
Sep 24, 02:48 |
Keeping Occupied |
eunichron |
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54. |
Sep 24, 03:00 |
Retail |
TangledThorns |
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57. |
Sep 24, 03:34 |
No subject |
JediPunisher |
| |
59. |
Sep 24, 04:12 |
Re: No subject |
SM0k3 |
| |
62. |
Sep 24, 04:49 |
Sept 30th |
garry |
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63. |
Sep 24, 04:52 |
still bullsh*t |
Pugio |
| |
66. |
Sep 24, 04:56 |
nyeah |
Hump |
| |
67. |
Sep 24, 05:14 |
Re: nyeah |
garry |
| |
68. |
Sep 24, 05:21 |
Re: nyeah |
Mr Gar |
| |
89. |
Sep 24, 08:35 |
Re: nyeah |
Anvil |
| |
92. |
Sep 24, 08:57 |
Re: later the better |
Serby |
| |
93. |
Sep 24, 09:00 |
Re: nyeah |
nin |
| |
94. |
Sep 24, 09:03 |
Delayed? |
MyRealName |
| |
69. |
Sep 24, 05:26 |
Already know??? |
Jerzy |
| |
70. |
Sep 24, 05:42 |
Re: Already know??? |
garry |
| |
72. |
Sep 24, 06:24 |
nice |
ildon |
| |
77. |
Sep 24, 06:58 |
No subject |
Xero |
| |
237. |
Sep 29, 17:59 |
Re: No subject |
Nox |
| |
79. |
Sep 24, 07:15 |
STEAM(ing pile o' ****) |
lochwinnoch |
| |
80. |
Sep 24, 07:18 |
Steam? |
CrowFeather |
| |
178. |
Sep 25, 01:53 |
Re: Steam? |
ildon |
| |
179. |
Sep 25, 02:15 |
Re: Steam? |
Locke |
| |
185. |
Sep 25, 15:04 |
Re: Steam? |
IronMan |
| |
181. |
Sep 25, 02:37 |
Re: Steam? |
CrowFeather |
| |
182. |
Sep 25, 11:07 |
Re: Steam? |
KaRRiLLioN |
| |
81. |
Sep 24, 07:23 |
Yawn |
Creston |
| |
90. |
Sep 24, 08:54 |
No subject |
Rain |
| |
91. |
Sep 24, 08:57 |
Halo for PC |
NoGodForMe |
| |
100. |
Sep 24, 09:31 |
the sky is falling |
VoodooV |
| |
104. |
Sep 24, 09:51 |
Re: the sky is falling |
Jobz |
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105. |
Sep 24, 10:04 |
... |
Orosian |
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106. |
Sep 24, 10:09 |
Pre-orders |
Mr Gar |
| |
103. |
Sep 24, 09:47 |
Yes but |
Mopap |
| |
108. |
Sep 24, 10:22 |
If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
Pr0nestar |
| |
109. |
Sep 24, 10:29 |
Re: If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
IAMGOD |
| |
112. |
Sep 24, 10:33 |
Re: If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
Pr0nestar |
| |
113. |
Sep 24, 11:06 |
Re: If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
Pineapple Ferguson |
| |
238. |
Sep 29, 18:09 |
Re: If you hate the way Valve treats you... |
Nox |
| |
239. |
Sep 29, 22:47 |
Re: Nox |
Zephalephelah |
| |
111. |
Sep 24, 10:32 |
No subject |
NoGodForMe |
| |
118. |
Sep 24, 11:26 |
Re: No subject |
Mr Gar |
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119. |
Sep 24, 11:37 |
Oh well at least there's this... |
KaRRiLLioN |
| |
121. |
Sep 24, 11:50 |
Re: No subject |
ExcessDan |
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148. |
Sep 24, 16:21 |
Re: No subject |
Marksman |
| |
161. |
Sep 24, 19:03 |
Re: No subject |
CrowFeather |
| |
114. |
Sep 24, 11:08 |
Stop Your Incessant Whining Noobs. |
JeZZyBaLL |
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115. |
Sep 24, 11:10 |
Did you hear that? |
Slingblade |
| |
116. |
Sep 24, 11:12 |
The REAL reason for the delay of HL2 |
ZigZang |
| |
117. |
Sep 24, 11:21 |
Lied to? Only indirectly... |
mbowers |
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122. |
Sep 24, 11:55 |
SHUT UP |
garry |
| |
123. |
Sep 24, 12:01 |
HL2 tech Demo |
jm0ris0n |
| |
124. |
Sep 24, 12:05 |
Re: HL2 tech Demo |
jm0ris0n |
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125. |
Sep 24, 12:24 |
Re: HL2 tech Demo |
ReDeeMeR |
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126. |
Sep 24, 12:32 |
HL2 |
red_420 |
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127. |
Sep 24, 12:44 |
Re: HL2 |
Pr0nestar |
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128. |
Sep 24, 12:49 |
Re: HL2 |
Von Helmet |
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129. |
Sep 24, 12:57 |
Re: HL2 |
Typhon |
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130. |
Sep 24, 13:03 |
Re: HL2 |
red_420 |
| |
131. |
Sep 24, 13:16 |
Re: HL2 |
Von Helmet |
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132. |
Sep 24, 13:50 |
Re: HL2 |
red_420 |
| |
136. |
Sep 24, 14:21 |
Re: HL2 |
PsycSui |
| |
139. |
Sep 24, 14:46 |
Re: HL2 |
Von Helmet |
| |
166. |
Sep 24, 19:49 |
Re: HL2 |
CrowFeather |
| |
137. |
Sep 24, 14:24 |
Re: HL2 |
redink1 |
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133. |
Sep 24, 13:55 |
Wait a minute |
jackmh |
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135. |
Sep 24, 14:15 |
Why I laugh |
PsycSui |
| |
138. |
Sep 24, 14:26 |
the truth behind the delay: |
sweetjimmy |
| |
140. |
Sep 24, 15:15 |
What did you expect? |
Tim1_2 |
| |
142. |
Sep 24, 15:26 |
Re: What did you expect? |
VoodooV |
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141. |
Sep 24, 15:21 |
No subject |
Bunko |
| |
151. |
Sep 24, 17:22 |
Scotty, fire up the engines! |
LugNut |
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152. |
Sep 24, 17:27 |
Re: Scotty, fire up the engines! |
Ewok |
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144. |
Sep 24, 16:04 |
No subject |
Nonicknameforme |
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146. |
Sep 24, 16:17 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
| |
149. |
Sep 24, 16:54 |
No subject |
ExcessDan |
| |
150. |
Sep 24, 17:11 |
Re: No subject |
nin |
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153. |
Sep 24, 17:44 |
No subject |
John |
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154. |
Sep 24, 17:45 |
No subject |
OCed_5150 |
| |
155. |
Sep 24, 17:50 |
No subject |
OCed_5150 |
| |
156. |
Sep 24, 17:54 |
No subject |
ExcessDan |
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159. |
Sep 24, 18:19 |
Re: No subject |
vacs |
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157. |
Sep 24, 18:12 |
HL2 delay... so what |
vacs |
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158. |
Sep 24, 18:16 |
Re: HL2 delay... so what |
ExcessDan |
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160. |
Sep 24, 18:46 |
Re: HL2 delay... so what |
Xenopulse |
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162. |
Sep 24, 19:11 |
April Fools! (2004) |
F1 |
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163. |
Sep 24, 19:24 |
UnDelayed? |
John Williams |
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164. |
Sep 24, 19:35 |
Re: UnDelayed? |
ExcessDan |
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165. |
Sep 24, 19:41 |
Re: UnDelayed? |
John Williams |
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167. |
Sep 24, 19:50 |
Re: UnDelayed? |
ReDeeMeR |
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168. |
Sep 24, 19:51 |
I know Exactly What Happened |
Zephalephelah |
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169. |
Sep 24, 20:50 |
No subject |
Kxmode |
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174. |
Sep 24, 23:23 |
Re: No subject |
Marksman |
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170. |
Sep 24, 21:17 |
Release Date |
Frozensun |
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171. |
Sep 24, 22:05 |
My 2 cents |
WarPig |
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172. |
Sep 24, 22:50 |
Re: My 2 cents |
sc4r4b |
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173. |
Sep 24, 23:09 |
another log on the fire |
VoodooV |
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175. |
Sep 24, 23:49 |
Valve is not accountable |
PsycSui |
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176. |
Sep 25, 01:26 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
WarPig |
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177. |
Sep 25, 01:38 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
TimothyB |
| |
184. |
Sep 25, 11:58 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Maskirovka |
| |
188. |
Sep 25, 16:38 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
PsycSui |
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199. |
Sep 25, 21:12 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
ildon |
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200. |
Sep 25, 21:57 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
TimothyB |
| |
201. |
Sep 25, 22:14 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
ReDeeMeR |
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202. |
Sep 25, 22:31 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Maskirovka |
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203. |
Sep 26, 00:20 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Bob |
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204. |
Sep 26, 00:24 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
pancreas |
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215. |
Sep 26, 18:42 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Slippy theClown |
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193. |
Sep 25, 20:06 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Creston |
| |
195. |
Sep 25, 20:16 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
MindTrigger |
| |
197. |
Sep 25, 20:47 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
PsycSui |
| |
198. |
Sep 25, 20:57 |
Re: Valve is not accountable |
Chance |
| |
180. |
Sep 25, 02:18 |
T-U-R-N-I-N-G B-L-U-E |
theAntiELVIS |
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183. |
Sep 25, 11:19 |
For those of you who missed it... |
Scott |
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205. |
Sep 26, 00:27 |
Film vs. Games |
NuclearOctopus |
| |
206. |
Sep 26, 04:26 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
PsycSui |
| |
207. |
Sep 26, 08:10 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
CrowFeather |
| |
209. |
Sep 26, 09:48 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
WarPig |
| |
210. |
Sep 26, 12:18 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
ReDeeMeR |
| |
211. |
Sep 26, 12:26 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
nin |
| |
212. |
Sep 26, 12:40 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
ReDeeMeR |
| |
213. |
Sep 26, 16:48 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
Creston |
| |
216. |
Sep 26, 18:44 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
PsycSui |
| |
217. |
Sep 26, 19:31 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
red_420 |
| |
218. |
Sep 27, 14:24 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
ReDeeMeR |
| |
219. |
Sep 27, 18:42 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
damocles |
| |
220. |
Sep 27, 19:28 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
WarPig |
| |
221. |
Sep 27, 21:25 |
Re: Film vs. Games & STEAM |
Zephalephelah |
| |
224. |
Sep 28, 09:27 |
Re: Film vs. Games & STEAM |
Undead Scottsman |
| |
225. |
Sep 28, 10:53 |
Re: Film vs. Games & STEAM |
Creston |
| |
226. |
Sep 28, 11:16 |
No subject |
damocles |
| |
227. |
Sep 28, 15:04 |
Re: No subject |
anon@24.76 |
| |
228. |
Sep 28, 15:49 |
Re: No subject |
damocles |
| |
232. |
Sep 28, 23:58 |
Re: No subject |
Vexar |
| |
235. |
Sep 29, 13:20 |
Re: No subject |
Waachi |
| |
231. |
Sep 28, 20:28 |
Re: Film vs. Games & STEAM |
Zephalephelah |
| |
236. |
Sep 29, 13:56 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
PsycSui |
| |
214. |
Sep 26, 18:06 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
deathbots |
| |
222. |
Sep 28, 05:29 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
famished |
| |
223. |
Sep 28, 06:21 |
Re: Film vs. Games |
L0cky |
| |
208. |
Sep 26, 09:17 |
No subject |
Button_Man |
| |
229. |
Sep 28, 18:55 |
VALVE |
Will |
| |
230. |
Sep 28, 19:23 |
Re: VALVE |
damocles |
| |
233. |
Sep 29, 05:38 |
bring on the games |
SirAnthony |
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Sep 29, 10:23 |
Re: bring on the games |
Halo |
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Sep 30, 15:56 |
damn |
natx |
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Sep 30, 16:16 |
Re: damn |
Bob |
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Oct 7, 11:25 |
Re: damn |
Lilricky |
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