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DOOM 3 & DX9

With all the discussion lately about how Half-Life 2 will run on ATI hardware compared with NVIDIA accelerators, BonusWeb.cz shot off an email to id Software's John Carmack to ask how DOOM 3 and other games are likely to be impacted by the difference between the two graphics platforms running DirectX 9. Here's how he responded:

Unfortunately, it will probably be representative of most DX9 games. Doom has a custom back end that uses the lower precisions on the GF-FX, but when you run it with standard fragment programs just like ATI, it is a lot slower. The precision doesn't really matter to Doom, but that won't be a reasonable option in future games designed around DX9 level hardware as a minimum spec.

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110. Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse Sep 19, 2003, 15:23 MindTrigger
 
I have an FX 5900 and I can honestly say that it has worked great so far. I've been playing Tron 2.0 with everything cranked up graphicly and haven't seen a framerate or visual problem yet.

Of course I realize Tron 2.0 is no Half Life 2, "graphically speaking", so I am still concerned about the performance I will see in HL2. Being an old schooler, I purchased every card 3dfx made up until the geforce came out. Ever since I have used Nvidia cards. I can honestly say that if I get screwed over on this $400 purchase, I will never buy from nVidia again no matter what products they come out with in the future. Not only that, but I vow to take my Mossberg 590 Tactical Shotgun and my mini DV camera out to the desert here in Vegas where I will record myself vaporizing this 5900. I will then use my video editing skills to produce a nice little presentation on the whole deal, and why I will never puchase from nVidia again.

Sure, I will do this at the risk of looking like a whiner, but it will still be fun, and Im betting it will be passed around the gaming community like wildfire.....thus getting my message out there. I will be out $400, and I will have to spend another $400 or so for an ATI, but it will be well worth taking a stand.

I'm tired of getting boffed by nearly every company out there. There is more greed, corruption, and pure stupdity then any other time in history. People can't get my god damned fast food order right, nor can they send me WORKING computer parts. sick of it I'm sick of it sasklaru eor avweropiuv be;orpu eporu n[eawipour nP[WRU VW[AUEIPR AW[UPEIR[APE[POVWOAUR[OI R
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