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Re: the truth... is out there.... |
Sep 18, 2003, 17:09 |
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No matter how you approached it the initial 3Dmark03 results told us precisely what has been discovered today. Namely that the FX series was strongest in GT1 which was the largely DX7 style rendering, it could have been stronger there because the FX does multi-texturing two pass stuff well and that was one of nVidia's complaints - namely that the test was only a single texture one for the most part.
As you increase the level of shader useage the FX's performance dropped off. When you got to GT4 the 5800 displayed performance equivalent to a 9500 (which was ATi's medium performance card of the time.). That was reflected in the scoring with the 5800 Ultra getting around 2600 3Dmarks and the 9700 Pro scoring around 4300. Wanna guess what a 9500 scored? About 2300 as I recall.
Remember it was the rectification of this quite large performance gap along with the noticeable image quality drop in 3Dmark03 that kicked a lot of the investigation off into precisely what drivers are doing. We have had a pretty clear indication with 3Dmark03, code creatures, Shadermark and the like all telling the same story - shader performance was lacklustre in the extreme on the NV3x series.
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Sep 17, 19:19 |
Target Sighted! Fire!!! |
Rigs |
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4. |
Sep 17, 19:24 |
Re: Target Sighted! Fire!!! |
PiG |
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7. |
Sep 17, 19:28 |
Re: Target Sighted! Fire!!! |
Rigs |
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9. |
Sep 17, 19:30 |
re: Target Sighted! Fire!!! |
Nexus |
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12. |
Sep 17, 19:36 |
Re: Target Sighted! Fire!!! |
Brick |
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23. |
Sep 17, 20:03 |
Re: Target Sighted! Fire!!! |
Rigs |
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2. |
Sep 17, 19:22 |
No subject |
Xero |
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3. |
Sep 17, 19:22 |
No subject |
ReDeeMeR |
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5. |
Sep 17, 19:24 |
Re: No subject |
Enahs |
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6. |
Sep 17, 19:28 |
Re: No subject |
quazz |
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16. |
Sep 17, 19:39 |
No subject |
ReverendTed |
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20. |
Sep 17, 19:53 |
Re: No subject |
kyleb |
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21. |
Sep 17, 19:56 |
Re: No subject |
ReDeeMeR |
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24. |
Sep 17, 20:03 |
Re: No subject |
Tony!!! |
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55. |
Sep 17, 22:40 |
Re: No subject |
Maskirovka |
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56. |
Sep 17, 22:48 |
Re: No subject |
Hellbinder |
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60. |
Sep 17, 23:05 |
Re: No subject |
HBringer |
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Sep 18, 05:37 |
Re: No subject |
Belly Flop |
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8. |
Sep 17, 19:29 |
Re: No Subject |
Bunko |
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10. |
Sep 17, 19:33 |
No subject |
D4rkKnight |
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Sep 17, 19:37 |
Re: No subject |
Enahs |
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14. |
Sep 17, 19:38 |
Re: No subject |
PoopieMoopie |
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15. |
Sep 17, 19:38 |
Re: No subject |
Brick |
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11. |
Sep 17, 19:35 |
who cares at this point? |
PoopieMoopie |
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18. |
Sep 17, 19:49 |
Re: who cares at this point? |
fallguy |
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17. |
Sep 17, 19:48 |
Re: wakey wakey! |
red_420 |
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19. |
Sep 17, 19:53 |
Re: wakey wakey! |
Maskirovka |
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22. |
Sep 17, 20:00 |
Re: wakey wakey! |
eunichron |
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25. |
Sep 17, 20:04 |
Re: wakey wakey! |
beaves |
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40. |
Sep 17, 21:50 |
Re: wakey wakey! |
Ryan |
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27. |
Sep 17, 20:31 |
Re: wakey wakey! |
kyleb |
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32. |
Sep 17, 21:13 |
Re: wakey wakey! |
fallguy |
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33. |
Sep 17, 21:25 |
Re: wakey wakey! |
eunichron |
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38. |
Sep 17, 21:44 |
Re: wakey wakey! |
mbmonk |
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26. |
Sep 17, 20:09 |
No subject |
Cynic9 |
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30. |
Sep 17, 20:51 |
26 WRONG |
schraube |
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31. |
Sep 17, 21:03 |
Re: 26 WRONG |
TangledThorns |
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Sep 17, 23:38 |
Re: 26 WRONG |
Marksman |
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64. |
Sep 17, 23:52 |
Re: 26 WRONG |
OneNightStand |
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Sep 18, 14:55 |
Re: 26 WRONG |
Fang |
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83. |
Sep 18, 06:31 |
Re: 26 WRONG |
vacs |
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36. |
Sep 17, 21:42 |
Re: 26 WRONG |
Cynic9 |
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39. |
Sep 17, 21:45 |
Re: 26 WRONG |
mag |
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45. |
Sep 17, 21:57 |
Re: 26 WRONG |
Ryan |
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63. |
Sep 17, 23:42 |
Re: 26 WRONG |
Marksman |
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28. |
Sep 17, 20:32 |
mondovoodootunabonecurse |
speedbacon |
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29. |
Sep 17, 20:36 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
nomar |
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35. |
Sep 17, 21:35 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
Pineapple Ferguson |
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37. |
Sep 17, 21:43 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
mag |
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41. |
Sep 17, 21:51 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
Pineapple Ferguson |
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47. |
Sep 17, 21:59 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
mag |
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48. |
Sep 17, 22:02 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
Enahs |
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42. |
Sep 17, 21:52 |
??? |
TimothyB |
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44. |
Sep 17, 21:56 |
Re: ??? |
Enahs |
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50. |
Sep 17, 22:07 |
Re: ??? |
TimothyB |
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46. |
Sep 17, 21:58 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
richcz3 |
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109. |
Sep 19, 13:22 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
CyberNutz |
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110. |
Sep 19, 15:23 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
MindTrigger |
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111. |
Sep 20, 06:04 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
mbmonk |
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115. |
Sep 22, 15:34 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
Guano |
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116. |
Sep 22, 17:59 |
Re: mondovoodootunabonecurse |
MindTrigger |
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34. |
Sep 17, 21:32 |
Blah blah blah... |
Ray Marden |
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43. |
Sep 17, 21:56 |
ARGUE! |
Bunko |
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49. |
Sep 17, 22:04 |
nVidia needs to be honest |
OCed_5150 |
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51. |
Sep 17, 22:25 |
No subject |
OneNightStand |
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61. |
Sep 17, 23:09 |
the truth... is out there.... |
Shataan |
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65. |
Sep 18, 00:00 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
mbmonk |
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66. |
Sep 18, 00:06 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
KaRRiLLioN |
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67. |
Sep 18, 00:10 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
Waldo555 |
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79. |
Sep 18, 04:39 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
banksie |
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80. |
Sep 18, 05:31 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
Waldo555 |
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101. |
Sep 18, 17:09 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
banksie |
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84. |
Sep 18, 06:40 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
Stinky_Toe |
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85. |
Sep 18, 08:38 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
Waldo555 |
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86. |
Sep 18, 09:05 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
Waachi |
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87. |
Sep 18, 09:12 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
nin |
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88. |
Sep 18, 09:21 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
Waldo555 |
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90. |
Sep 18, 09:38 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
Belly Flop |
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94. |
Sep 18, 13:58 |
Re: the truth... is out there.... |
m00t |
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52. |
Sep 17, 22:27 |
HL2 & D3: hard to compare |
MrJonesPY |
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53. |
Sep 17, 22:31 |
Re: HL2 & D3: hard to compare |
ReDeeMeR |
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54. |
Sep 17, 22:32 |
Re: HL2 & D3: hard to compare |
Enahs |
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82. |
Sep 18, 06:27 |
Re: HL2 & D3: hard to compare |
vacs |
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57. |
Sep 17, 22:52 |
Re: ADOLESCENT CONSOLES |
Hellbinder |
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59. |
Sep 17, 22:59 |
Re: ADOLESCENT CONSOLES |
OneNightStand |
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58. |
Sep 17, 22:57 |
No subject |
OneNightStand |
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68. |
Sep 18, 00:14 |
PCI Express |
OneNightStand |
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69. |
Sep 18, 00:16 |
The vidcard market |
CrowFeather |
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70. |
Sep 18, 00:27 |
Re: The vidcard market |
Creston |
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97. |
Sep 18, 15:31 |
Re: The vidcard market |
CrowFeather |
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71. |
Sep 18, 02:16 |
No subject |
Acleacius |
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72. |
Sep 18, 03:13 |
The Impact Effect |
Learned Hand |
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73. |
Sep 18, 03:33 |
Re: The Impact Effect |
TimothyB |
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75. |
Sep 18, 03:37 |
Re: The Impact Effect |
Wilf |
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76. |
Sep 18, 04:06 |
Re: The Impact Effect |
Waldo555 |
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78. |
Sep 18, 04:25 |
Re: The Impact Effect |
Anvil |
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74. |
Sep 18, 03:37 |
Re: The Impact Effect |
HBringer |
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77. |
Sep 18, 04:07 |
Re: The Impact Effect |
mbmonk |
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89. |
Sep 18, 09:34 |
No subject |
_Pablo |
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91. |
Sep 18, 10:25 |
Phew |
Creston |
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92. |
Sep 18, 10:55 |
Re: Phew |
ReDeeMeR |
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93. |
Sep 18, 13:07 |
Hrm ... |
whatever |
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95. |
Sep 18, 14:00 |
Re: Hrm ... |
kanniballl |
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98. |
Sep 18, 15:42 |
Some Thoughts |
Liquid |
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99. |
Sep 18, 16:47 |
Re: Some Thoughts |
TimothyB |
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106. |
Sep 18, 21:41 |
Re: Some Thoughts |
Liquid |
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107. |
Sep 18, 21:56 |
Great article related to DX9 ATI vs Nvid |
mbmonk |
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108. |
Sep 18, 22:04 |
Re: Some Thoughts |
TimothyB |
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100. |
Sep 18, 17:05 |
No subject |
Hellbinder |
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102. |
Sep 18, 17:27 |
"Standards" |
HBringer |
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103. |
Sep 18, 17:58 |
Re: Hardware |
Zoner |
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104. |
Sep 18, 19:06 |
Re: Hardware |
HBringer |
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105. |
Sep 18, 21:08 |
Re: Hardware |
Zoner |
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112. |
Sep 20, 07:12 |
Re: SOUR GRAPES |
vajbern |
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113. |
Sep 21, 08:27 |
Re: SOUR GRAPES |
zamfear |
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114. |
Sep 21, 18:14 |
Re: SOUR GRAPES |
vajbern |
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117. |
Sep 23, 17:04 |
Will mine work? |
Mopap |
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118. |
Oct 22, 21:11 |
RE: good thread |
4Eyez |
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