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How it went down. |
Aug 30, 2003, 08:08 |
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Hellchicks post over at Planercrap gives her reason on why the exclusive demo thing is NOT good for business. I imagine this is what she told Activisions marketing dept. to show them the error of their ways:
Because we're talking about an online game demo.
Online gamers are a crowd that is savvy enough to know that a demo is a marketing tool. They're also accustomed historically to getting demos for free, because the logic is that a demo should get into as many hands as possible in order to get people playing your game and thus buying your game. And the media here is digital, easy to pass around, and generally not something that the publisher wants to restrict due to legal issues like an mp3. There is almost no cost in terms of physical media to distribute it -- no CDs to press, to sleeves to print, etc., if you were releasing it through a magazine. It's different.
Online gamers are inherent file sharers; they want to give a demo they like to their friends. They want to pony up their own bandwidth to get it out there when their friends say they don't want to wait in a line or they don't want to pay or they simply are getting low downstream from wherever they're trying to get it from.
Online gamers are virulent community members. They browse a particular set of sites and expect to see what they want on those sites.
Online gamers don't want to jump through hoops to get anything. The net is an ADD medium; they want what they want now and if you don't give it to them now they will forget about it in a few days. They also don't want to have to sign up for things, pay for things, etc. if it's a demo, which again, they're savvy enough to know is a marketing tool.
By restricting a demo using sign ups, fees, or any barriers to entry, you're actively discouraging the online crowd from doing what they do naturally: give the file out, give it to friends, and talk about it. You're basically telling them that unless they pay to get what they know is a marketing tool, they're not important enough to you to matter, and that's a slap in the face of the online gamer. And they'll pass that sentiment on to the 8 or so friends they talk to and recommend games to. As a heads up for the uninitiated, Caryn"Hellchick"Law works at Activision as a sort of liason to the hatdcore game community. She used to work for GSI (though I imagine they aren't exactly overjoyed with her at the moment...heh)
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Aug 29, 02:06 |
Wow! |
ZigZang |
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4. |
Aug 29, 02:08 |
Re: Wow! |
Maestro |
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5. |
Aug 29, 02:11 |
Re: Wow! |
Psycho Suicider |
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6. |
Aug 29, 02:15 |
Re: Wow! |
Hellbinder |
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7. |
Aug 29, 02:17 |
Re: Wow! |
Maestro |
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13. |
Aug 29, 02:28 |
AHHAHAAAA!!! |
MeatForce |
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14. |
Aug 29, 02:29 |
Re: AHHAHAAAA!!! |
MindTrigger |
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16. |
Aug 29, 02:31 |
Re: AHHAHAAAA!!! |
MindTrigger |
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18. |
Aug 29, 02:33 |
Re: AHHAHAAAA!!! |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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22. |
Aug 29, 02:38 |
Re: AHHAHAAAA!!! |
Gunz |
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185. |
Aug 29, 17:30 |
Re: AHHAHAAAA!!! |
ZzeusS |
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220. |
Aug 29, 21:25 |
Re: AHHAHAAAA!!! |
c r i s p y |
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152. |
Aug 29, 14:01 |
To all upset |
Darkhand Brackstone |
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2. |
Aug 29, 02:06 |
No subject |
Mark |
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3. |
Aug 29, 02:06 |
Poor GameSpy |
Golbez |
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8. |
Aug 29, 02:20 |
The POWER of posting |
Cheese |
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9. |
Aug 29, 02:23 |
Re: The POWER of posting |
Halo |
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10. |
Aug 29, 02:23 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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11. |
Aug 29, 02:26 |
Re: No subject |
Blue |
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12. |
Aug 29, 02:27 |
Re: No subject |
fredrickson |
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20. |
Aug 29, 02:36 |
Re: No subject |
Meezy |
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23. |
Aug 29, 02:39 |
Re: No subject |
Unmaker |
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25. |
Aug 29, 02:42 |
Re: No subject |
Meezy |
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28. |
Aug 29, 02:43 |
Re: No subject |
Unmaker |
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32. |
Aug 29, 02:48 |
Re: No subject |
WebDemon |
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38. |
Aug 29, 02:55 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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40. |
Aug 29, 02:57 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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41. |
Aug 29, 02:58 |
Re: No subject |
Maestro |
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15. |
Aug 29, 02:29 |
Congratulations |
Paradroid |
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17. |
Aug 29, 02:31 |
Holly! |
Maestro |
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19. |
Aug 29, 02:34 |
Hoorj! |
sexninja |
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21. |
Aug 29, 02:36 |
Hooah! |
Unmaker |
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24. |
Aug 29, 02:40 |
Re: Hooah! |
MindTrigger |
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26. |
Aug 29, 02:42 |
Re: Hooah! |
MindTrigger |
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29. |
Aug 29, 02:43 |
Re: Hooah! |
MeatForce |
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30. |
Aug 29, 02:45 |
Re: Hooah! |
MindTrigger |
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35. |
Aug 29, 02:51 |
Re: Hooah! |
fredrickson |
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31. |
Aug 29, 02:46 |
Re: Hooah! |
Gunz |
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27. |
Aug 29, 02:43 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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34. |
Aug 29, 02:50 |
Re: No subject |
Meezy |
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33. |
Aug 29, 02:48 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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37. |
Aug 29, 02:54 |
Re: No subject |
Merc248 |
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39. |
Aug 29, 02:56 |
Re: No subject |
Merc248 |
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36. |
Aug 29, 02:54 |
No subject |
Smiwi |
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43. |
Aug 29, 02:59 |
Re: No subject |
Meezy |
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44. |
Aug 29, 03:00 |
Re: No subject |
Captain Beatdown |
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46. |
Aug 29, 03:01 |
Re: No subject |
Captain Beatdown |
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45. |
Aug 29, 03:01 |
Re: No subject |
ExcessDan |
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50. |
Aug 29, 03:04 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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42. |
Aug 29, 02:59 |
Meezy Dude |
Paradroid |
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49. |
Aug 29, 03:04 |
Re: Meezy Dude |
Meezy |
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47. |
Aug 29, 03:02 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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48. |
Aug 29, 03:03 |
Re: No subject |
fredrickson |
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51. |
Aug 29, 03:08 |
Re: No subject |
Meezy |
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52. |
Aug 29, 03:13 |
Re: No subject |
WebDemon |
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54. |
Aug 29, 03:18 |
Re: No subject |
fallguy |
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57. |
Aug 29, 03:21 |
Re: No subject |
Maestro |
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55. |
Aug 29, 03:19 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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73. |
Aug 29, 04:09 |
Re: No subject |
Sty |
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93. |
Aug 29, 07:31 |
Re: No subject |
Ventura |
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94. |
Aug 29, 07:39 |
Re: No subject |
Mr Gar |
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110. |
Aug 29, 09:54 |
Re: No subject |
[AIX]Hood |
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53. |
Aug 29, 03:18 |
Re: No subject |
Maestro |
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60. |
Aug 29, 03:28 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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61. |
Aug 29, 03:29 |
Re: No subject |
fredrickson |
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63. |
Aug 29, 03:33 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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62. |
Aug 29, 03:32 |
Re: No subject |
Maestro |
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66. |
Aug 29, 03:44 |
Re: No subject |
MindTrigger |
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67. |
Aug 29, 03:50 |
Re: No subject |
Maestro |
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75. |
Aug 29, 04:13 |
Re: No subject |
WebDemon |
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69. |
Aug 29, 04:01 |
Re: No subject |
ExcessDan |
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78. |
Aug 29, 04:18 |
Re: No subject |
Hump |
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56. |
Aug 29, 03:19 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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58. |
Aug 29, 03:24 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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59. |
Aug 29, 03:28 |
To Meezy Again |
Paradroid |
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79. |
Aug 29, 04:36 |
Re: To Meezy Again |
Mystical PotatoHead Groove Thang |
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64. |
Aug 29, 03:33 |
Yeah right... |
Maliciuos |
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65. |
Aug 29, 03:39 |
Re: Yeah right... |
MindTrigger |
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80. |
Aug 29, 04:42 |
Re: Yeah right... |
Maliciuos |
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81. |
Aug 29, 05:35 |
Re: Yeah right... |
Raiz |
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68. |
Aug 29, 03:55 |
Bittersweet |
Boston |
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70. |
Aug 29, 04:03 |
Rock Climber makes some good points |
Psycho Suicider |
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72. |
Aug 29, 04:07 |
heh.. FP updated |
Merc248 |
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74. |
Aug 29, 04:10 |
Re: Rock Climber makes some good points |
LlamaRama |
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71. |
Aug 29, 04:06 |
Clearing something up |
Psycho Suicider |
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76. |
Aug 29, 04:13 |
No subject |
garry |
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77. |
Aug 29, 04:17 |
My my |
Creston |
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82. |
Aug 29, 05:48 |
No subject |
Enemy |
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85. |
Aug 29, 06:47 |
Re: No subject |
Jobz |
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86. |
Aug 29, 07:14 |
Re: No subject |
plzkthxdie |
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90. |
Aug 29, 07:18 |
Re: No subject |
plzkthxdie |
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83. |
Aug 29, 05:49 |
Go Blue! |
Elvis |
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84. |
Aug 29, 06:31 |
Re: Go Blue! |
swebarb |
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87. |
Aug 29, 07:15 |
Congratulations! |
JAGUART |
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157. |
Aug 29, 14:49 |
Re: Congratulations! |
Nuhauser |
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160. |
Aug 29, 15:19 |
Re: Congratulations! |
MonsieurEvil |
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161. |
Aug 29, 15:21 |
Re: Congratulations! |
MonsieurEvil |
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88. |
Aug 29, 07:15 |
On The Whole.... |
Sadogoat |
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89. |
Aug 29, 07:17 |
Support for FIleplanet |
Geese |
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95. |
Aug 29, 07:43 |
Re: Support for FIleplanet |
Hump |
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96. |
Aug 29, 07:57 |
Re: Support for Fileplanet |
Geese |
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97. |
Aug 29, 08:05 |
Re: Support for Fileplanet |
Jay K. |
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91. |
Aug 29, 07:23 |
God Bless Us Everyone |
JAGUART |
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92. |
Aug 29, 07:29 |
Nice One |
Quboid |
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98. |
Aug 29, 08:12 |
Demos will become Betas |
Roc |
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99. |
Aug 29, 08:23 |
Re: Demos will become Betas |
Scottish Martial Arts |
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100. |
Aug 29, 08:41 |
Re: Demos will become Betas |
Potato Joe |
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101. |
Aug 29, 08:44 |
Re: Demos will become Betas |
Hump |
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124. |
Aug 29, 11:27 |
Re: Demos will become Betas |
MonsieurEvil |
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129. |
Aug 29, 12:00 |
Re: Demos will become Betas |
Unmaker |
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102. |
Aug 29, 08:45 |
No subject |
Hump |
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103. |
Aug 29, 08:56 |
Re: No subject |
Scottish Martial Arts |
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112. |
Aug 29, 10:09 |
Single or MP |
Elvis |
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113. |
Aug 29, 10:13 |
Re: Single or MP |
nin |
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115. |
Aug 29, 10:21 |
Re: Single or MP |
Elvis |
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118. |
Aug 29, 10:53 |
Re: Single or MP |
Hump |
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119. |
Aug 29, 10:56 |
Re: Single or MP |
Bunko |
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120. |
Aug 29, 11:02 |
Re: Single or MP |
nin |
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121. |
Aug 29, 11:11 |
Re: Single or MP |
Atomic |
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123. |
Aug 29, 11:16 |
Yahoo for the Blue |
ButterBoned |
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132. |
Aug 29, 12:16 |
Re: Single or MP |
Bronco |
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145. |
Aug 29, 13:41 |
Re: Single or MP |
nin |
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146. |
Aug 29, 13:46 |
Re: Single or MP |
kyleb |
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147. |
Aug 29, 13:49 |
Re: Single or MP |
Two_Sheds |
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122. |
Aug 29, 11:13 |
Re: Single or MP |
Elvis |
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104. |
Aug 29, 09:02 |
GameSpy is evil |
dubfanatic |
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105. |
Aug 29, 09:07 |
Re: GameSpy is evil |
Sadogoat |
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107. |
Aug 29, 09:33 |
Re: GameSpy is evil |
MajorGeeks |
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106. |
Aug 29, 09:29 |
No subject |
Santiago |
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108. |
Aug 29, 09:35 |
Integrity on the line |
Atomic |
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109. |
Aug 29, 09:42 |
Next up... |
Morgan19 |
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114. |
Aug 29, 10:20 |
Re: Integrity on the line |
Elvis |
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111. |
Aug 29, 10:07 |
Well |
Bort |
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116. |
Aug 29, 10:25 |
Wow, a demo tongiht?! |
system81 |
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117. |
Aug 29, 10:49 |
No subject |
Bunko |
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125. |
Aug 29, 11:34 |
Was anything actually accomplished? |
indiv |
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126. |
Aug 29, 11:39 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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127. |
Aug 29, 11:43 |
Re: No subject |
MonsieurEvil |
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128. |
Aug 29, 11:55 |
In the end... |
c r i s p y |
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130. |
Aug 29, 12:05 |
Re: In the end... |
Unmaker |
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131. |
Aug 29, 12:14 |
Re: In the end... |
Quboid |
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134. |
Aug 29, 12:26 |
Re: In the end... |
Keex |
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133. |
Aug 29, 12:25 |
Re: In the end... |
Raiz |
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135. |
Aug 29, 12:26 |
In the words of John Lennon... |
Halsy |
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136. |
Aug 29, 12:30 |
Re: In the words of John Lennon... |
jm0ris0n |
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137. |
Aug 29, 12:45 |
Gamespy deserves to die |
fredrickson |
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139. |
Aug 29, 13:00 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Trebek |
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140. |
Aug 29, 13:13 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
jomisab |
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141. |
Aug 29, 13:16 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Unmaker |
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142. |
Aug 29, 13:18 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Unmaker |
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143. |
Aug 29, 13:22 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
kyleb |
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144. |
Aug 29, 13:24 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
SubhumaN |
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148. |
Aug 29, 13:50 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Quboid |
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149. |
Aug 29, 13:50 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Trebek |
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150. |
Aug 29, 13:54 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Trebek |
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153. |
Aug 29, 14:11 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
MonsieurEvil |
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154. |
Aug 29, 14:24 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Rico |
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155. |
Aug 29, 14:24 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Merc248 |
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151. |
Aug 29, 13:58 |
The economist in all of us... |
jm0ris0n |
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158. |
Aug 29, 15:03 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
WebDemon |
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162. |
Aug 29, 15:24 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Trebek |
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163. |
Aug 29, 15:36 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
WebDemon |
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165. |
Aug 29, 15:48 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
WebDemon |
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166. |
Aug 29, 15:50 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
MonsieurEvil |
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167. |
Aug 29, 15:55 |
#166 |
Morgan19 |
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168. |
Aug 29, 15:58 |
Re: #166 |
MonsieurEvil |
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169. |
Aug 29, 16:01 |
Sweet |
JediLuke |
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170. |
Aug 29, 16:02 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
WebDemon |
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172. |
Aug 29, 16:09 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Maestro |
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173. |
Aug 29, 16:25 |
Gamespot subscriber here... |
DefBringer |
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174. |
Aug 29, 16:25 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
WebDemon |
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175. |
Aug 29, 16:26 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
MonsieurEvil |
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176. |
Aug 29, 16:32 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
kyleb |
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177. |
Aug 29, 17:07 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
WebDemon |
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178. |
Aug 29, 17:10 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
WebDemon |
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179. |
Aug 29, 17:21 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Chipper |
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189. |
Aug 29, 18:25 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
MrShoop |
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182. |
Aug 29, 17:28 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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190. |
Aug 29, 18:37 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Scottish Martial Arts |
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191. |
Aug 29, 18:42 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Earthworm |
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192. |
Aug 29, 18:49 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Scottish Martial Arts |
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193. |
Aug 29, 19:05 |
Re: Gamespy deserves to die |
Earthworm |
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138. |
Aug 29, 12:59 |
No subject |
space captain |
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156. |
Aug 29, 14:25 |
heh |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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159. |
Aug 29, 15:03 |
gamespy..... |
tempus |
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164. |
Aug 29, 15:44 |
Again |
Maestro |
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171. |
Aug 29, 16:09 |
spy this |
space captain |
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180. |
Aug 29, 17:21 |
Game just average |
Cheese |
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181. |
Aug 29, 17:23 |
Re: Game just average |
Ryan |
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183. |
Aug 29, 17:29 |
Re: Game just average |
Morgan19 |
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186. |
Aug 29, 17:43 |
Re: Game just average |
Quboid |
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184. |
Aug 29, 17:30 |
argh... |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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187. |
Aug 29, 17:56 |
No doubt |
Maestro |
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194. |
Aug 29, 19:11 |
Re: No doubt |
MindTrigger |
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195. |
Aug 29, 19:13 |
Re: No doubt |
ZzeusS |
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188. |
Aug 29, 18:04 |
No subject |
Nonicknameforme |
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196. |
Aug 29, 19:21 |
Lame |
Bob |
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197. |
Aug 29, 19:30 |
Re: Lame |
Earthworm |
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198. |
Aug 29, 19:32 |
Re: Lame |
ZzeusS |
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199. |
Aug 29, 19:37 |
Re: Lame |
future_man |
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200. |
Aug 29, 19:37 |
Re: Lame |
StaTik |
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201. |
Aug 29, 19:58 |
Re: Lame |
fredrickson |
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205. |
Aug 29, 20:15 |
Re: Lame |
Ventura |
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211. |
Aug 29, 20:25 |
Re: Lame |
Bob |
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213. |
Aug 29, 20:28 |
Re: Lame |
Bob |
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218. |
Aug 29, 21:14 |
Re: Lame |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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221. |
Aug 29, 21:53 |
Re: Lame |
Santiago |
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222. |
Aug 29, 22:08 |
Re: Lame |
Blue |
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223. |
Aug 29, 22:14 |
Re: Lame |
|o.O|Payback |
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224. |
Aug 29, 22:16 |
Re: Lame |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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202. |
Aug 29, 20:00 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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219. |
Aug 29, 21:18 |
Re: No subject |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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203. |
Aug 29, 20:14 |
It's out! |
Quboid |
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204. |
Aug 29, 20:15 |
Re: It's out! |
Quboid |
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206. |
Aug 29, 20:19 |
Re: It's out! |
Bronco |
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208. |
Aug 29, 20:21 |
Re: It's out! |
Quboid |
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212. |
Aug 29, 20:26 |
Re: It's out! |
Bronco |
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210. |
Aug 29, 20:24 |
Call of Duty Demo is Up! |
F7 |
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225. |
Aug 29, 22:30 |
Re: It's out! |
Xymph |
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207. |
Aug 29, 20:21 |
I know it's the current evil empire but |
Bronco |
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209. |
Aug 29, 20:22 |
Re: I know it's the current evil empire but |
swebarb |
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214. |
Aug 29, 20:29 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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215. |
Aug 29, 20:30 |
No subject |
Rictor |
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216. |
Aug 29, 20:31 |
Re: No subject |
F7 |
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217. |
Aug 29, 20:46 |
Wicked |
Hunterzyph |
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226. |
Aug 30, 00:34 |
Re: No subject |
WebDemon |
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227. |
Aug 30, 08:08 |
How it went down. |
Hump |
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228. |
Aug 30, 14:19 |
Re: How it went down. |
Wowbagger_TIP |
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229. |
Aug 30, 17:35 |
Re: How it went down. |
human |
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230. |
Aug 30, 20:15 |
Re: How it went down. |
Stylz |
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