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Call of Duty Demo Open Letter

Though we don't really offer much in the way of downloads here, Blue's News is supporting the sentiments in the following open letter, which demonstrates to Activision (and hopefully the rest of the industry) what the undersigned sites feel are the general sentiments of the community about the downsides of exclusive demo releases. As a result, these sites will not be carrying the Call of Duty demo, even after its FilePlanet exclusivity (story) is over. Update: To be clear, this does not mean we will not carry news of when the demo is released, exclusive or not. Here's the letter:

After discussions with Activision, the following websites will not be carrying the Call of Duty playable demo, even after its exclusivity is over. This is due to Activision's decision to not accede to the reasonable request of making the demo freely available to all game enthusiasts at the same time.

3D Downloads
3D Gamers
AusGamers
Blue's News
EdgeFiles (Callofduty.org)
FileFront
FileShack
GameGossip
Gamer's Hell
Loadedinc
Tiscali Games
WorthPlaying

The above-listed websites hope to show Activision that the enthusiast industry is strongly opposed to the idea of exclusive demo releases.

Feedback from our users shows that gamers hate to be forced through a single point of congestion if they want a demo right away. While these websites are actually competitors, this competition provides the freedom of choice that enthusiasts want by offering the widest possible distribution of any demo (a sample intended to interest as many gamers as possible in the full product, after all) rather than the most restricted one.

Therefore, something this disrespectful of the industry as a whole has inspired all of these websites to stand together in this open letter.

Deals like this hurt the industry much more than they could possibly enhance a single relationship, and we ask for your support in sending out this message.

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71. Re: Interesting Aug 28, 2003, 19:36 Ray Marden
 
Somebody started abusing the edit function...

Wishing the "other" board was back up :(,
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70. Re: #44 Aug 28, 2003, 19:36 Ventura
 
Communistic strike? This is as democratic as it gets. Standing up for what you believe in and all that. It couldn't be more democratic.

As for me, there's no way in hell I'm paying to have a demo early. It's a demo for crying out loud, when some vacuum cleaner salesman shows up at your door he doesn't charge you a few bucks if you ask him to show you how the damn thing works.

It's just typical though really, money makes the world go round and all that. Everyone's trying to make a buck. Of course if this keeps up in 10 years or so we'll be paying to take a look at screenshots :\

I'm with Blue and the other sites 100% on this.


 
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69. Re: No subject Aug 28, 2003, 19:35 Morgan19
 
Valve tends not to release pre-retail demos anyway, so that doesn't really count...

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68. Re: No subject Aug 28, 2003, 19:33 Merc248
 
id say that those two companies (valve and iD) wouldn't ever stoop that low. both companies have always supported the community, and i've never seen anything like a fileplanet exclusive deal associated with them.

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67. Re: No subject Aug 28, 2003, 19:31  Blue 
 
Call of Duty, fine.

I wonder if Blues and the rest of the sites would take this same approach if it was the Half Life 2 demo or the Doom III demo.

I view this as a measure designed to prevent it from ever coming to that.
 
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66. Re: Finally! Aug 28, 2003, 19:30 Gunz
 
"Try Before You Buy" is great marketing -- it lets the customer make an educated decision. And it's perfect for game demos over the internet.

"Buy Before You Try Before You Buy" doesn't make much sense over the internet -- where it's actually "Buy (ISP fee)Before You Buy (site fee)Before You Try (the demo) Before You Buy (the game). That's two seperate fees to get something you might not even like. Heck, if you stick woth magazine demo disks, you're stilling paying (subscription fee)... but you're only paying once!

 
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65. Fuck Fileplante Aug 28, 2003, 19:29 SubhumaN
 
I wont fucking download it from there, not even if there is no wait what so ever. fuck it

 
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64. Re: Interesting Aug 28, 2003, 19:27 fredrickson
 
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63. Re: Interesting Aug 28, 2003, 19:26 Morgan19
 
Interesting... Why has editing been disabled? Blue, if you did that on purpose, isn't it slightly ironic? You want free release of demos, but people can't be free to change what they say?

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62. Re: Interesting Aug 28, 2003, 19:25 Quboid
 
Gah, you can't edit but I forgot to mention this...

My personal stance is strange on this one. I want to see the end of exclusive demos as it is bad for the common gamer like me. However, I don't think there is anything actually wrong with what they are doing so while I have to side with Fileplanet and Activision, I'd be happy if they fall.

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61. Re: i applaud blue Aug 28, 2003, 19:24 Morgan19
 
make it exclusive for a week

That's exactly why I have to disagree with Blue and everyone else who thinks this is a plausible argument. Your own example is great: it's a WEEK. Seven days. A single week. Is it really worth getting worked up over all this when all you have to do is go find something else to do for that short of a time?

Yes, granted it might be a longer period, but so what? There's other things to life than a ridiculous demo, a teeny tiny portion of a full game.

As for the "but then every game site's going to become pay," no, they won't. That's a ridiculous notion that I'm pretty darn sure will never come to pass. Look at porn: 99% of the stuff you'd find online you have to pay for, but there are ALWAYS free places.

I said it before, and again: You guys need some patience and other interests, and learn to pick your battles. This isn't even remotely worth getting up in arms about. (Though it is making for an interesting thread. :))

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60. Re: Exclusives Aug 28, 2003, 19:24 ZigZang
 
This is possibly the fastest growing thread I've ever seen on Blues.  
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59. Re: Exclusives Aug 28, 2003, 19:23 fredrickson
 

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At least 17 children have been killed in western India after a decrepit road bridge they were travelling along collapsed into a river, police sources say.
A school van carrying the children was amongst at least four vehicles that plunged into the Daman Ganga river.

Authorities in the resort town of Daman have recovered 18 bodies from the rain-swollen waters so far, and say that as many as 25 people could have drowned in the accident.

A senior police officer, R P Upadhyay told the BBC that at least 10 people have been rescued from the river so far.

Navy and coast-guard vessels were helping the rescue efforts, alongside fishing boats which were the first to arrive at the scene of the accident.

Lucky escape

13-year-old Neha Mustafa, who was rescued from the river, told the Associated Press that she managed to stay afloat by clinging to her empty water bottle.

"It was raining heavily when the bridge just vanished from beneath us and we suddenly found ourselves in the water," she said.

According to local residents, the bridge was only wide enough for one-way traffic and had been in need of repairs for several years.

Daman was a Portuguese colony until it was returned to India in 1961.

Located nearly 200 kilometres (125 miles) north of Bombay, also known as Mumbai, the town is popular amongst holiday makers because of its beaches and the free availability of alcohol, which is banned in surrounding Gujarat state.

 
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58. Re: Exclusives Aug 28, 2003, 19:23 ZigZang
 
Not sure who said it but it is true, no one will care 2 months after a game is released how the demo was distributed. If the game is good, we will want to play it. And that is just the facts, Jack.
I said that ^_^...


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57. Re: Exclusives Aug 28, 2003, 19:22 Wazootyman
 
Not sure who said it but it is true, no one will care 2 months after a game is released how the demo was distributed. If the game is good, we will want to play it. And that is just the facts, Jack.

I said that ^_^...

 
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56. Not an Issue Aug 28, 2003, 19:22 The Raven
 
I don't think this is that big a deal. I think this is the first time I have disagreed with Blue.

If a company chooses to shoot themselves in the foot and provide an exclusive to some site, that's their business. The site gets a boost, their demo gets seen by fewer people, no big deal.

Those who really want the demo can use BitTorrent, FileMirrors.com, Kazaa, or some similar service to get it. Those who don't care much can wait till it is freely available. In the end, it's just a delay, so it doesn't pay to get worked up about it.

If it pisses you off, vote with your wallet, not your words. Don't buy the game. If Activision notices a significant difference in the sales for games with exclusive demo releases, they'll change their tune.

But you know what? They won't. Because very few people care that much.

 
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55. i applaud blue Aug 28, 2003, 19:21 Merc248
 
i stand behind you 100% on this decision.

i think whats even more despicable is when certain mod teams release a certain mod for a certain WW2 64 player game, and make it exclusive for a week on fileplanet's subscriber only service. those guys are even worse than these guys who get an exclusive DEMO of a full game out on fileplanet.

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54. No subject Aug 28, 2003, 19:20 Cynic9
 
Call of Duty, fine.

I wonder if Blues and the rest of the sites would take this same approach if it was the Half Life 2 demo or the Doom III demo.

I doubt it

I'm just thinking that more people will go to fileplanet because of this, not less.

 
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53. Interesting Aug 28, 2003, 19:20 Quboid
 
This should be a large thread.

I think Fileplanet have every right to try to grab an exclusive. The listed sites also have every right to complain but some of it is dubious. FileShack complaining? Somehow I think FileShack would be grabbing exclusives if they were in a position to do so. Bluesnews, as much as I love it, wouldn't be carrying the demo anyway so while the moral stand may be justified, the name on the list isn't.

I do think releasing the demo as an exclusive is bad for a game and bad for a publisher. I think Activision are wrong to take this route and I wouldn't if I was releasing a demo. However, I don't think there is a moral or legal problem with how Gamespy are trying to make their cash.

If none of the sites will host that demo, then it will be a downfall for Acti-shit because the majority will NEVER pay just to get their hands on a so called "demo".

The majority won't have to pay - they'll download from Fileplanet after it becomes available for non-subscribers, or from any of the 100 other sites that will still offer it.

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52. Re: #44 Aug 28, 2003, 19:19 fredrickson
 
this is pretty sick a company is free to do what it wants but this communistic strike by game websites goes against everything american and to blackmaile activision like this is heartless and unfounded and may lead to the dessemination of the game industry as we know it

 
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