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Out of the Blue

It's been with great interest that I've been gauging the reaction to the takeover ads that are appearing here. I guess this will be a talking point here for a few days, so I won't try to cover the whole thing in one mouthful (though this update is so long it looks like I did). First, just to be clear, there is another new intrusive ad unit that will appear as of today -- this will represent the completion of this process, so while its appearance is probably no more welcome, that will be the end of this (I don't want anyone to think that a new ad unit is going to be added every day).

As was discussed in the forums yesterday, the deal with the takeover ad is that the most any one user should be able to encounter it is once per 24 hour period. This works via a cookie, and as far as I've been able to tell, this has worked as promised. I've had one report from someone with a technical difficulty, please let me know if you are having one yourself (if you do, please include as much pertinent system info as you can). The deal with these other ads, which will be of the pop-up variety, is that no one should receive more than a single one per visit, and none of them will do any of that annoying open a new window when you try to close it dealie.

As I alluded to yesterday, these are not moves that have been made lightly, they are meant to ensure the survival of this site, which if I may be brutally frank has been losing money for over two years now (since the dot-bomb). I resisted pop-up type ads as being greedy when they were worth a king's ransom back when the site was in the black. I resisted them during the dark days of the past couple of years as not worth bothering everyone with if they still weren't allowing the bills to be paid. Now that a middle ground is achievable here, it seemed like it was the way to go. I fought hard to lay down parameters that will keep the frequency of these reasonable, and made everyone involved crazy by standing my ground to not allow for the possibility that these frequencies could increase for the foreseeable future. I can only hope that the end effect is indeed reasonable for most of you, and that, as I said yesterday, you find these trade-offs acceptable.

Finally, at the risk of the longest OotB EVAR (and I didn't even get to the new e-mail worm), I have seen the hue and cry for a system that allows users to pay for a site with no such ads... I will do a little investigating and report to you what the near-term possibilities are in this regard. There's also been more stirring from supporters of the idea of a PayPal donation link. Breaking my (eerie to some) silence on this topic, I guess the time to consider that will be after the dust settles from all this (it wouldn't seem fair to do that first and then hit you with the new ads).

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196. Anon: Aug 22, 2003, 06:49 Dead_Cow
 
You consider people greedy because they have a job? What the hell does Africa have to do with Bluesnews? There's people starving in America, Russia, all over Europe, hell, probably in Antarctica for all I know, and I'd still donate money to this site if there was a donation button.

Please STFU, mostly because you're and idiot, but I'm sure you'll provide plenty more reason if you read this post.

 
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  1. Aug 20, 09:55 No subject Satyric0n
  80. Aug 20, 15:50  Re: No subject d3nt
  81. Aug 20, 15:58   Its not the ads but the CONTENT Deaths Shadow
  2. Aug 20, 09:56 go for it space captain
  3. Aug 20, 09:59  Re: go for it XEON
  6. Aug 20, 10:04   Re: go for it Jobz
  20. Aug 20, 10:53    Re: go for it Jobz
  21. Aug 20, 10:57     Re: go for it nin
  24. Aug 20, 11:05     Hmmm... Rigs
  26. Aug 20, 11:15      Re: Hmmm...  Blue 
  27. Aug 20, 11:18       Re: Hmmm... Rigs
  28. Aug 20, 11:19       Re: Hmmm... fredrickson
  30. Aug 20, 11:23        Re: Hmmm... nin
  32. Aug 20, 11:29      Re: Hmmm... Halsy
  33. Aug 20, 11:35       Re: Hmmm... Scottish Martial Arts
  9. Aug 20, 10:10   Re: go for it nin
  22. Aug 20, 11:00    Re: go for it Steele Johnson
  23. Aug 20, 11:04    Re: go for it Devster
  4. Aug 20, 10:01 No subject Starsky
  5. Aug 20, 10:01 Do what it takes CableGuy
  7. Aug 20, 10:05  My vote: Subscription Site! Gojo
  8. Aug 20, 10:05  Re: Do what it takes Beamer
  17. Aug 20, 10:34   Re: Do what it takes Typhon
  10. Aug 20, 10:12 I am outraged Killjoy
  11. Aug 20, 10:12 What the Hell? Bunko
  13. Aug 20, 10:26  More power to ya Blue! Magua
  15. Aug 20, 10:31   Re: More power to ya Blue! sc4r4b
  12. Aug 20, 10:25 Keep up the Good Work islaroberto
  14. Aug 20, 10:31 Ad's! Enahs
  16. Aug 20, 10:33 Another vote for subscription Asylumn
  18. Aug 20, 10:40 Stay the course Unmaker
  19. Aug 20, 10:52  Re: Stay the course [AIX]Hood
  25. Aug 20, 11:13 Selling Games Producer
  29. Aug 20, 11:19  Subscription amygdala
  31. Aug 20, 11:24 Pop ups, Pop Tarts, whatever BubbleMage
  34. Aug 20, 11:35 Is it just me nmg
  35. Aug 20, 11:37 No subject Hellbinder
  36. Aug 20, 11:43  Re: No subject fredrickson
  38. Aug 20, 11:46   Re: No subject nin
  37. Aug 20, 11:44 with ya blue... lochwinnoch
  39. Aug 20, 11:49  Re: with ya blue... CEJ
  40. Aug 20, 11:57 My contribution Anvil
  42. Aug 20, 12:28  Re: My contribution Enahs
  46. Aug 20, 12:48   Re: My contribution MindTrigger
  48. Aug 20, 12:55    Nick nacks! Morgan19
  50. Aug 20, 13:05     Re: Nick nacks! [AIX]Hood
  44. Aug 20, 12:40  Re: My contribution BicycleRepairMan
  49. Aug 20, 13:04   Re: My contribution Nuhauser
  41. Aug 20, 12:25 Ads OCed_5150
  43. Aug 20, 12:28 Moon colony 'within 20 years'. c r i s p y
  45. Aug 20, 12:41 my thoughts on the ad's Xil
  47. Aug 20, 12:52 Comments & Suggestions Alex Sledge
  51. Aug 20, 13:10  Re: Comments & Suggestions Von Helmet
  198. Aug 22, 10:05   Re: Comments & Suggestions Alex Sledge
  52. Aug 20, 13:12 Ping Blue Mashiki Amiketo
  53. Aug 20, 13:21 adios anon@207.67
  54. Aug 20, 13:25  Re: adios tunis5000
  55. Aug 20, 13:26  Re: adios Tony!!!
  56. Aug 20, 13:26  Re: adios Bunko
  57. Aug 20, 13:28  Re: adios Mad Jackson
  58. Aug 20, 13:29  Re: adios fredrickson
  59. Aug 20, 13:31 Subscriptions Narr
  60. Aug 20, 13:33 Money banddirector
  62. Aug 20, 13:37  Re: Money Rigs
  119. Aug 20, 18:52  Re: Money nin
  61. Aug 20, 13:35 What new ads?? Agrajag
  65. Aug 20, 13:52  Re: What new ads?? Hammer
  63. Aug 20, 13:38 No subject ExcessDan
  64. Aug 20, 13:47 Pass-thru ad alnya
  66. Aug 20, 13:52  Re: Pass-thru ad ExcessDan
  67. Aug 20, 13:53 That's life.. WebDemon
  68. Aug 20, 14:04 People agains ads are stupids MrJonesPY
  69. Aug 20, 14:08 Hopping on the blocking bandwagon RoF
  70. Aug 20, 14:20 subscriptions ssh
  71. Aug 20, 14:27  Re: subscriptions ExcessDan
  72. Aug 20, 14:44 R.I.P. Blues News Rambo
  74. Aug 20, 14:55  Re: R.I.P. Blues News Halsy
  94. Aug 20, 17:09  Re: R.I.P. Blues News Anvil
  73. Aug 20, 14:55 Slashdot Subscription nmg
  75. Aug 20, 15:02 I'd pay for progress gunther
  77. Aug 20, 15:14  Re: I'd pay for progress nmg
  78. Aug 20, 15:17   Re: I'd pay for progress fredrickson
  79. Aug 20, 15:24    Re: I'd pay for progress Morgan19
  76. Aug 20, 15:02 No subject sponge
  82. Aug 20, 16:04 No subject JM
  83. Aug 20, 16:19  Re: No subject ExcessDan
  84. Aug 20, 16:19  Re: No subject Jobz
  85. Aug 20, 16:22  No subject raz-0
  86. Aug 20, 16:22 OotB Fletch
  87. Aug 20, 16:30  Re: OotB fredrickson
  88. Aug 20, 16:34 Complaining about ads ExcessDan
  89. Aug 20, 16:42  Re: Complaining about ads WarPig
  90. Aug 20, 16:43   Re: Complaining about ads ExcessDan
  92. Aug 20, 16:48    Re: Complaining about ads fredrickson
  91. Aug 20, 16:45 game editions TiberiusBlue
  93. Aug 20, 17:08 Ads Earthworm
  95. Aug 20, 17:21 I cannot believe some of you... yellowghetto
  97. Aug 20, 17:37  Re: I cannot believe some of you... fredrickson
  106. Aug 20, 17:59   Re: I cannot believe some of you...  Blue 
  109. Aug 20, 18:08    Re: I cannot believe some of you... Learning
  118. Aug 20, 18:51   Re: I cannot believe some of you... BigDawg3683
  122. Aug 20, 19:15    Re: I cannot believe some of you... Von Helmet
  123. Aug 20, 19:20     Re: I cannot believe some of you... Hump
  100. Aug 20, 17:40  Re: I cannot believe some of you... fredrickson
  159. Aug 20, 23:40  Re: I cannot believe some of you... Quaternion
  96. Aug 20, 17:36 Ads Bucky
  98. Aug 20, 17:38 Dan = fred nmg
  102. Aug 20, 17:45  Re: Dan = fred ExcessDan
  107. Aug 20, 18:02   .. Enahs
  108. Aug 20, 18:04    Re: fredrickson
  128. Aug 20, 19:47  Re: Dan = fred Devster
  133. Aug 20, 20:37   Re: Dan = fred Bunko
  135. Aug 20, 20:40    No subject Enahs
  187. Aug 21, 12:08    Re: Dan = fred Devster
  99. Aug 20, 17:39 ouch denniz
  101. Aug 20, 17:44 No subject denniz
  103. Aug 20, 17:46 ... yellowghetto
  104. Aug 20, 17:53 Whatever it takes. Deathstalker
  105. Aug 20, 17:57 Targeted advertising RoF
  111. Aug 20, 18:17  Re: Targeted advertising  Blue 
  116. Aug 20, 18:40   Re: Targeted advertising Steve Gibson
  121. Aug 20, 19:06    Re: Targeted advertising  Blue 
  131. Aug 20, 20:11     No subject Enahs
  180. Aug 21, 08:17     Re: Targeted advertising Starsky
  181. Aug 21, 08:53      Re: Targeted advertising nin
  182. Aug 21, 08:54       Re: Targeted advertising nin
  110. Aug 20, 18:14 idea... i don't know if it's been said.. Calast
  112. Aug 20, 18:27 Whatever it takes :) Sgt_Storm
  113. Aug 20, 18:28  Re: Whatever it takes :) fredrickson
  114. Aug 20, 18:31 No subject Hump
  115. Aug 20, 18:32 Another $0.02 HBringer
  117. Aug 20, 18:43 as much as i love blues news psychochicken
  120. Aug 20, 19:04 No subject ExcessDan
  124. Aug 20, 19:22 To: The Dan MrJonesPY
  126. Aug 20, 19:32  Re: To: The Dan ExcessDan
  130. Aug 20, 20:09   Re: To: The Dan MrJonesPY
  125. Aug 20, 19:32 Money Creston
  127. Aug 20, 19:37 Not so bad TheIncomparableFlex
  129. Aug 20, 20:00 Subscription Rate Ayii
  132. Aug 20, 20:33 POO ASS OFFICIAL STATMNET POO ASS
  136. Aug 20, 20:47  Re: POO ASS OFFICIAL STATMNET ExcessDan
  134. Aug 20, 20:39 No subject Brick
  137. Aug 20, 20:48 dan iz fred Vladislav
  138. Aug 20, 20:55  Re: dan iz fred fredrickson
  139. Aug 20, 20:57 blues stomped. and adds. tempus
  140. Aug 20, 21:03 Blues red_420
  141. Aug 20, 21:03 Stephen... Ray Marden
  142. Aug 20, 21:09  Re: Stephen... ExcessDan
  144. Aug 20, 21:20   Re: Stephen... Halsy
  145. Aug 20, 21:32    Re: Stephen... ExcessDan
  149. Aug 20, 22:08    Re: Stephen...  Blue 
  150. Aug 20, 22:13     Re: Stephen... ExcessDan
  151. Aug 20, 22:14     Re: Stephen... fredrickson
  160. Aug 20, 23:41      Re: Stephen...  Blue 
  162. Aug 20, 23:45       Re: Stephen... LordSteev
  163. Aug 20, 23:47       Re: Stephen... fredrickson
  166. Aug 20, 23:51        Re: Stephen... Quaternion
  167. Aug 20, 23:55       Re: Stephen... sponge
  172. Aug 21, 00:22       Re: Stephen... Trymeyes
  143. Aug 20, 21:19 o well schraube
  146. Aug 20, 21:49 Ads and money Nighthawk
  148. Aug 20, 21:59  Re: Ads and money ExcessDan
  147. Aug 20, 21:59 No subject Tar
  152. Aug 20, 23:06 Pop ups LordSteev
  153. Aug 20, 23:09  Re: Pop ups ExcessDan
  154. Aug 20, 23:20   Re: Pop ups LordSteev
  156. Aug 20, 23:30    Re: Pop ups fredrickson
  158. Aug 20, 23:36     Re: Pop ups LordSteev
  157. Aug 20, 23:31    Re: Pop ups ExcessDan
  161. Aug 20, 23:42     Re: Pop ups LordSteev
  164. Aug 20, 23:48      Kill the intro page and subdue me with?? Jay K.
  165. Aug 20, 23:49      Re: Pop ups ExcessDan
  168. Aug 20, 23:55       Re: Pop ups LordSteev
  169. Aug 21, 00:14        Re: Pop ups ExcessDan
  170. Aug 21, 00:17         Re: Pop ups LordSteev
  173. Aug 21, 01:16          Re: Pop ups schraube
  174. Aug 21, 01:39           Re: Pop ups Halo
  175. Aug 21, 02:37            Re: Pop ups fredrickson
  176. Aug 21, 02:38            Re: Pop ups schraube
  177. Aug 21, 03:20            Re: Pop ups Torlock
  155. Aug 20, 23:29 now for something completely different Camaro76
  171. Aug 21, 00:21 I clicked the ad banner.... LordSteev
  178. Aug 21, 03:26 Funding Blues Houdini
  179. Aug 21, 06:30 so where's the problem? [NM]AdamW
  183. Aug 21, 08:57 No subject Dead_Cow
  184. Aug 21, 10:13  Re: No subject Noonsa!
  185. Aug 21, 11:03 Don't stress it blue. shmell
  186. Aug 21, 11:23 Pop-up? denniz
  188. Aug 21, 13:25 wtf abelincon
  189. Aug 21, 13:37  Re: wtf nin
  190. Aug 21, 15:11 No subject ExcessDan
  193. Aug 21, 23:57  Re: No subject Camaro76
  194. Aug 22, 01:08   Re: No subject Lightbringer
  191. Aug 21, 22:06 Time to speak inmyrem
  192. Aug 21, 22:20  Re: Time to speak Jay K.
  195. Aug 22, 04:57   Re: Time to speak Jobz
>> 196. Aug 22, 06:49    Anon: Dead_Cow
  197. Aug 22, 08:06 multiple paypal accounts DooM
  199. Aug 22, 13:15 army popup ad TiberiusBlue
  200. Aug 22, 15:01 What about the T-Shirts? Heretic_QPF
  205. Aug 24, 20:54  Re: What about the T-Shirts? Bronco
  201. Aug 22, 23:14 <sigh> BlouZb33
  202. Aug 23, 00:27  Re: <sigh> Brick
  203. Aug 24, 08:36   Re: <sigh> Scorpius
  204. Aug 24, 19:46 No subject Hump
  206. Aug 25, 10:35 Awfully late ringing in Elvis
  207. Aug 26, 07:13  Re: Awfully late ringing in DooM
  208. Aug 27, 01:26 How do you get paid? Prez
  209. Aug 27, 07:53 No subject TeaZer


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