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Yesterday the instability of the computer I've been working on finally pushed me back to troubleshooting my real work PC, as I could not stand to lose any more productivity to the crashes the emergency box was subject to. The problem with my real Win2K workstation is a memory leak I was experiencing with FrontPage, a problem that persisted even after uninstalling and reinstalling the whole Office suite. As it turns out, I have not actually determined the cause of the problem, just a workaround, which is simply to save my work in a different subdirectory. I'm sure there's a logical explanation for this (there always seems to be), but it certainly defies the easy explanation that there was something corrupt in the directory structure where I was previously saving things, since it's working fine now, and I'm using the exact same directory as before, simply copied to a new location. Anyway, I'm quite ecstatic at being able to work on my proper work machine, and I'm guessing my newly learned habit of saving my work after every keystroke might even come in handy one of these days.

Today might see some experimentation begin with some ads that are probably more obtrusive than what we're used to here. This is not a step that is taken lightly, but is essential to the ongoing survival of this site, and I can only hope that you will consider this a fair trade-off. As always, feedback on this is welcome.

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Thanks Mike Martinez.

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190. Can't seem to edit my previous post Aug 23, 2003, 21:16 Bronco
 
Very strange.

Hmmm.

Must be rusty.

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189. Re: Takeover ad Aug 23, 2003, 20:47 Bronco
 
I've stopped visiting better sites than this because of takeover ads

Better sites? Where?

You will be missed.

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188. Re:Fun while lasted Aug 22, 2003, 06:26 DooM
 
> There are also other means of raising money.

Such as.. ?


And i didnt even mention the supposed contract between Blue and UGO. Im pretty sure thats another stone blocking his way out. At least theoretically.

 
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187. Re:Fun while lasted Aug 21, 2003, 18:33 nUttsAck
 
Actually I do get it. What I meant is that there are other networks out there. There are also other means of raising money. UGO isn't the be all end all of web advertising.

 
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186. Re:Fun while lasted Aug 21, 2003, 08:14 DooM
 
nUttsAck wrote:
> Many people say that bandwidth is expensive, but it's not
> that bad. If you can afford to spend $100 per month you can
> get yourself a server with 700-900 GB of bandwidth per
> month.


You dont get it do you.

Beeing part of a network like UGO means the advertisement deals they get, are shared with Blue.

If UGO cant get good enough ads do you think a person alone would achieve that?

So basically Blues income comes from the advertisements. Problem is, its not enough.

For us, with ads or no ads, its still free.

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185. No subject Aug 21, 2003, 03:31 Nonicknameforme
 
someone quoted me, oh man i'm all warm and fuzzie now... no one EVER quotes me.

 
"I'm too much of a narcisist to really hate stupid people."
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184. im leaving Aug 20, 2003, 22:17 abelincon
 
if there is a huge ad that pops up with loud ass sound every time i click on my bookmark i refuse to visit this site. if ads are your thing then that's cool too.


but anywys, what is another good computer game news site. any reccomendations?

 
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183. Re:Fun while lasted Aug 20, 2003, 19:06 nUttsAck
 
I have no problems with Blue trying to make a buck, but it will be without me. I could go into the many reasons why, but I don't care to get flamed into next week. I'll check back once and awhile.

Many people say that bandwidth is expensive, but it's not that bad. If you can afford to spend $100 per month you can get yourself a server with 700-900 GB of bandwidth per month.
www.rackspace.com
www.rackshack.net
to name few.

Maybe cutting ties with UGO might lead to something.

Blue, I wish you the best of luck. Hopefully I'll be back soon.

 
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182. yeah...what HE said. Aug 20, 2003, 17:54 Hump
 
Some of you are being real cunts about this, get the fuck outa here, no one will miss you.

kinda says it all to me...

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181. Re: blues costs, adverts, and support Aug 20, 2003, 17:14 DooM
 
> Not really... it is part of the deal with UGO to provide
> hosting, and is considered part of their compensation for
> running the ads.


Exactly, thats an understatement.

What i really wanted by asking that question, Blue, was to make sure ppl realize what they're discussing in the first place, so they can later decide correctly wether to donate/contribute or not.

I assume that modifying the site to have two different versions for members and guests requires not only technical knowledge that you may not have but also (in case you hire a programmer) an investment risk, if the subscription model bombs.

My decision goes toward the donations because its the quick-no-hassle solution. Sure, its not perfect and its not going to work forever.

But for now, it may help you out. And besides, im sure that people willing to contribute thru a subscription model would also accept to pay thru Paypal if thats El President's choice.



PS - Dont forget the Amazon wishlist.

 
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180. Re: Ads... Aug 20, 2003, 14:35 Heretic_QPF
 
Who cares...

I don't really know why anyone would even pay to advertise in those Ad's - I have NEVER clicked on an Ad...and NEVER will....Ad's are annoying...but just deal with it.

Would I pay to see Blues News?
No.

Information is meant to be free...

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179. Re: blues costs, adverts, and support Aug 20, 2003, 13:22  Blue 
 
Also, i would like to see clarified the bandwidth issue. Isnt Blues News part of the UGO Network thus using their own bandwidth?

That is correct

If that is true, Blue gets his bandwidth for free, right?

Not really... it is part of the deal with UGO to provide hosting, and is considered part of their compensation for running the ads.

As the old expression goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
 
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178. blues costs, adverts, and support Aug 20, 2003, 11:27 DooM
 

AshW wrote:
> I think I can put up with one extra click in order to view
> one of the greatest gaming news sites on the web.


This is my feeling, exactly.

Also, i would like to see clarified the bandwidth issue. Isnt Blues News part of the UGO Network thus using their own bandwidth?

If that is true, Blue gets his bandwidth for free, right?

Now, besides that, i still think we should support Blue's work. So, we have some solutions:

1) more intrusive ads
2) subscription model with ad-free navigation for members that pay
3) paypal donations and less ads (just keep the basic banners)

I wont dwelve into those 3 possibilities because that has been done many times before.

I'll simply state that i would prefer #3 "donations and just basic banners".

Everyone seems willing to donate to make the take-over advertisement disappear but lets not forget that making such oferts thru a practically anonymous board is worthless. Im sure Blue himself has weighted that many times, he knows that once he puts the Paypal thingy, "theres no way back".

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177. Re: No subject Aug 20, 2003, 10:34 JM
 
I'm starting to get why so many computer geeks are also fat, out-of-shape slobs. It all boils down to an extra single-click over the course of the day and people are complaining?!?! Think of this as an opportunity to burn some extra calories without even having to get your fat, lazy asses out of your chair.

 
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176. Re: Soul Calibur II Aug 20, 2003, 09:06 nin
 
Yay! I just got an e-mail from Gamestop saying that, instead of on the twenty-sixth, they will be shipping my order today


Major f$%*ing wootage!

edit: Looks like EB is about to ship mine! WHOO!

edit again: Thanks to Anon for f$%&ing up the page!

Supporter of the "A happy fredster is a muted fredster" fanclub.

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175. Re: takeover ad Aug 20, 2003, 09:00 Jobz
 
E :(:) A :(:) T :(:) P :(:):(:) O :(:):(:) O :(:):(:): P (:):(:):(:):(:):(:)

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174. Soul Calibur II Aug 20, 2003, 08:55 Ray Marden
 
Yay! I just got an e-mail from Gamestop saying that, instead of on the twenty-sixth, they will be shipping my order today.

w00t!

Knowing, just knowing, all of you are dying to know this ;P,
Ray

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173. Re: takeover ad Aug 20, 2003, 07:47 StarHawk
 
Would people still complain if it was an ad for bubble wrap lingerie? http://www.shoplisas.com/bra-tie-panty.html

 
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172. Re: takeover ad Aug 20, 2003, 07:37 Devster
 
Any chance we could get ads for say, NewEgg or Directron or something better than the movie or game ads? If a click puts some $$$ in the bank I'd gladly click on 'em instead of going through my Favorites.
Indeed - at least have an "affiliates" page and sign up for all the affiliates programs; Amazon, Barnes&Noble, Chapters, whatever sites out there do it. Call it "Blues Bargain Bin", make it a link off the sidebar (perhaps after the Mail Bag *cough*), and when I'm buying something online, I can hit and go through that instead.

No pseudo-guilt for Blue getting straight donations; he can use his credits or whatever towards a blender or dog food or something (new pc crap, perhaps).

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