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32. Re: Canada's position, eh? Mar 20, 2003, 14:42 snowdog
 
Iraq has NOT respected the international rules of law. They have NOT followed the UN's rulings.

Iraq, for the last 12 years, has basically told the UN to kiss their a s s.

That is why we are there. That is why we will finish the job.

We ARE following what was clearly laid out in the UN resolutions. There was never a treaty with Iraq - just a cease fire. This war is totally legal and just. To say otherwise shows a severe ignorance of the situation.

The ironic thing is that EVERYONE agrees that Saddam is a bad man and should be removed from power. The US and the UK are the ONLY countries that have the balls to do it.

 
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31. Re: Iraq... Mar 20, 2003, 14:42 Atomic
 
Amen, NeonRonin.

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30. Re: Canada's position, eh? Mar 20, 2003, 14:41 Atomic
 
Does that help?

I knew what you were getting at, I was just being facetious. Still a moot point though, because the UN has already demonstrated it has no balls to do what needs to be done. You can't make an irrational supposition and ask us to reflect on it.

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29. Re: There.... Mar 20, 2003, 14:39 changingman
 
Supporter of the I Love Fredrickson and His Mother Campaign

Finally, a cause I can believe in! Where do I sign up?

There was a lot of uproar about this whole situation in the UK over the last few weeks. But now, I don't believe that there's any point in condemning this war. It's started, someone will finish it, but until then I'm 100% behind the people out there fighting.

 
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28. Re: Iraq... Mar 20, 2003, 14:38 Heretic_QPF
 
Hmmm....not that I'm against what the US is doing....but.....I'd thought I'd throw some more gas on the fire:

I seem to recall that the US backed Iraq in the Iraq/Iran war.....just as they at one time backed the Taliban when Russia invaded Afghanistan....maybe....just maybe....911 might never have happened if the US didn't intervene?

Then again - maybe it would have happened sooner - it's one of those things where hindsight is 20-20.....
 
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27. Re: To my fellow Mar 20, 2003, 14:35 Moonbender
 
rogue
adj.
1. Vicious and solitary
2. Large, destructive, and anomalous or unpredictable
3. Operating outside normal or desirable controls

(source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition)

terrorism
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

(source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition)

 
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26. Iraq... Mar 20, 2003, 14:31 NeonRonin
 
The point of weapons inspectors is to ensure that Iraq dismantled it weapons of mass destruction. Its not to play hide and seek and find the weapons. We've been playing that game for over 12 years. The U.S. proposed resolution 1441 to get the inspectors in and get them disarmed or there would be severe consequences. The entire security council approved that resolution.

Iraq didn't comply, didn't meet its deadlines, and had so many holes in the report it provided, you could drive a truck through it. They started the same tactics again that they did the first time the inspectors were there. Their delaying tactics and hiding so that world opinion would sway to their side once again.

This time around we didn't have a pushover for a president that was more interested in the interns and said enough is enough, drew a deadline, and stuck to it. It's the French that marginalized the U.N. by being stubborn fools again. They can't defend their own doorstep, relied heavily on US support in the past to bail them out, and then stab us in the back the first chance they get and denounce the US.

 
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25. Re: Canada's position, eh? Mar 20, 2003, 14:30 c r i s p y
 
<sigh>

I shouldn't really have to explain this but the U.N. relies on access to the resources (including the military resources) of its member nations. So let's say that the U.N. backed a military action conducted by country W, X and Y against country Z, contrary the wishes of the U.S.

Does that help?
 
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24. To my fellow "cat people", Mar 20, 2003, 14:23 Heretic_QPF
 
In these days of stress brought on by threat of war - I laughed harder than I have in a year!
Please have a look, and sign up your little furry ones!
For the Dog people - there is a link to "Puppies for Peace"

http://www.kittiesforpeace.org/
 
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23. Re: Canada's position, eh? Mar 20, 2003, 14:21 Atomic
 
if the situation was reversed, and the U.N. decided to embark on a military campaign without the support of the U.S., how do you think the U.S. would react?

Last time I checked, the UN doesn't have a military, so the point is moot.

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22. Blue Mar 20, 2003, 13:56 cepheid
 
Come on over, we can watch the war!
I'm 5 mins away in Peekskill

 
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21. Re: There.... Mar 20, 2003, 13:42 ExcessDan
 
Yes, we're as bad as the French now. I'm so ashamed.

Dan
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20. Re: There.... Mar 20, 2003, 13:41 Mead
 
All that French blood in 'em.. they're genetically forced to hesitate and vacillate.

You'd think the combination of Scots and French blood would make for a lot of self-imploding humans, but it hasn't happened yet. Odd.

 
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19. Re: There.... Mar 20, 2003, 13:41 ExcessDan
 
Election is coming up that's why.

Dan
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Intel 486SX, Trident video, 8MB RAM, 14" Generic Monitor, 100 MB HDD, Windows 3.11
 
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18. Canada's position, eh? Mar 20, 2003, 13:40 c r i s p y
 
First of all, let me state emphatically that I support the removal of Saddam Hussein and his government from power over Iraq, and I’m certain that the majority of Canadians feel the same way.

However, Canada (like many other U.N. nations) believes in respecting the international rule-of-law. What is the point of having a United Nations if the participating nations aren’t prepared to follow its rulings? Yes, diplomacy is a slow and frustrating process, and that at times it seems that all everyone ever does is talk. However, if the citizens of the world hope to ever live with each other peacefully, we are going to have to accept that participation in a world government forum is the only means to achieve this goal.

I realize that discussion of this subject evokes strong emotions, but I ask that you try to set your feelings aside for just a moment to consider this: if the situation was reversed, and the U.N. decided to embark on a military campaign without the support of the U.S., how do you think the U.S. would react?

All of this aside, once the war begins to wind down, you can bet that the U.N. will be called upon to assist in the process of rebuilding Iraq, and that Canada will be a willing participant.
 
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17. Re: There.... Mar 20, 2003, 13:35 Stin
 
As a fellow Canadian, I'm with you on this . . . although I wonder how much of the Canadian gov'ts reluctance to get involved is due to the general poor state of our military.

At any rate, diplomacy clearly isn't working in Iraq and our prime-minister's statement that the US has already won since the presence of troops is causing Iraq to disarm is moronic.
 
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16. Re: There.... Mar 20, 2003, 13:12 ExcessDan
 
Our gov't is sitting on their asses doing nothing when they should at least be sending their engineers in. But at least they've sent in troops to Afghanistan recently and have plans for more relief troops in order for the Americans can redirect their troops to Iraq. And our ships are in the Gulf but they're only escorting other ships to the battle.

Dan
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15. No subject Mar 20, 2003, 12:58 nmg
 
counfounded secret messages
Life is short and hard, like a bodybuilding dwarf.
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14. Re: There.... Mar 20, 2003, 12:45 c r i s p y
 
I'm embarrassed to be Canadian

Er... Care to elaborate?
 
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13. Re: There.... Mar 20, 2003, 12:39 ExcessDan
 
I'm embarrassed to be Canadian

Dan
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