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Re: The Point |
Oct 30, 2002, 13:42 |
Dr.Del |
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my mouse pad is a red and blue colored 8"x12" rectangular object with the words printed in white:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
I totally agree with the First Amendment, however there are NUMEROUS instances in our society where the line is not black and white. In my opinion this is one of them.. that is why I can see why the Sikh groups want it censored.
In American life there are a lot of instances where the First Amendment isn't fully protected even though it is the cornerstone of the way you live. The President has even disregarded it.
(quote)On May 30, Bush passed a bll that will give FBI agents greater latitude to monitor Internet sites, libraries, and religious institutions -- without offering any evidence of potential criminal activity. Under the new guidelines, field office directors will be allowed to launch terrorism investigations and undercover probes against innocent Americans without clearance from headquarters.
May 22, 2002: Law officers on the Golden Gate Bridge demanded that two college students walking across the bridge as part of a demonstration remove their pro-life T-shirts, or be subject to a fine and jail time. Kary Witt, bridge manager of the Golden Gate District, has apologized for the incident. "It should not have happened. One officer got way overzealous."
June 27, 2001: Public service ads that promoted free health line for gays was pulled from several bus stops in the Bronx after people complained. The ad was paid for by the Bronx Lesbian and Gay Health Resource Consortium. It showed two men walking, one had his arm around the other. The caption read: "I'm not gay, but sometimes I have sex with other guys."
June 8, 2001: The Amazon.com search warrant was issued as part of an investigation of the stalking and harassment of over 40 women in the Cleveland area. This case was the largest attempt to violate customer privacy. Amazon.com is based in Seattle. Cleveland authorities were forced to apply for a search warrant there. Although a warrant was issued in February, a Seattle prosecutor refused to execute the warrant. (endquote)
These are just a few of examples where things are grey. Stuff to make you think...
Many people posting to this thread are yapping about the First Amendment and how the Hitman 2 people are expressing themselves. That is fine, but keep in mind that the Sikhs are expressing themselves too.. and for ignoarant people in this thread to say "kill Sikhs" and equating them to Middle Easterner's and Terrorists are exactly what the Sikh organizations are fighting against.
Either way, a lot of awareness of what a Sikh is, that they are NOT from the Middle East, that they are not terrorists of Osama and that a lot of Sikh's have been killed since 9/11 because Americans thought they were terrorists has been shown here today from my posts.
It isn't easy arguing 1 person verson 30+, (well maybe 10 or so, since about 20 people are just antagonizing kiddies) but I think that you are all more aware about what Sikhs are and are not after reading this thread, so I think I did my job.
I don't think that Hitman 2 should be pulled off the shelves, mainly because it is too late! The damage has already been done! Just like SOF, I think the Hitman 2 crew are learning their lesson and I really doubt there next title will have an racist undertones -- which means the Sikh groups have partially won.
- Dr. Del http://www.SuperBlog.com AMD 2200+, ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, 512 RAM, 19" ViewSonic LCD flat panel, 140 G WD HDD 8meg cache, WinXP Pro SP1 |
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1. |
Oct 30, 08:49 |
Hitman sucks a$$ |
Dr.Del |
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6. |
Oct 30, 09:30 |
Re: Hitman sucks a$$ |
jomisab |
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8. |
Oct 30, 09:42 |
Re: Hitman sucks a$$ |
Dr.Del |
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153. |
Oct 31, 21:40 |
Re: Hitman sucks a$$ |
Quaternion |
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12. |
Oct 30, 09:50 |
Get Over it... |
Oblivion |
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15. |
Oct 30, 10:03 |
Re: Get Over it... |
Dr.Del |
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22. |
Oct 30, 10:26 |
Re: Get Over it... |
Bouncy |
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29. |
Oct 30, 11:13 |
Re: Get Over it... |
Dr.Del |
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24. |
Oct 30, 10:28 |
Re: Get Over it... |
snide |
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33. |
Oct 30, 11:26 |
Re: Get Over it... |
Dr.Del |
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39. |
Oct 30, 11:37 |
Re: Get Over it... |
Xombie |
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40. |
Oct 30, 11:44 |
Well said Xombie... |
Oblivion |
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42. |
Oct 30, 11:48 |
Intriguing... |
Von Helmet |
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28. |
Oct 30, 11:07 |
Re: Get Over it... |
Oblivion |
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127. |
Oct 31, 00:10 |
Re: Get Over it... |
Ray Marden |
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128. |
Oct 31, 00:30 |
Re: Get Over it... |
DrEvil |
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129. |
Oct 31, 00:52 |
Good game |
Totalitarinism |
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80. |
Oct 30, 15:06 |
Re: Get Over it... |
SacredGinmill |
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146. |
Oct 31, 15:41 |
My two cents... |
killer_roach |
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149. |
Oct 31, 16:50 |
Re: My two cents... |
wasrad |
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160. |
Nov 1, 00:19 |
Re: My two cents... |
Johnny Holiday |
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161. |
Nov 1, 08:16 |
Very Amusing |
markv |
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162. |
Nov 1, 08:47 |
Re: Very Amusing |
GhostDog |
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16. |
Oct 30, 10:03 |
Re: Hitman 2 |
JAGUART |
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145. |
Oct 31, 15:35 |
recall |
AWD2 |
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237. |
Nov 9, 18:08 |
Re: Hitman sucks a$$ |
misery |
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2. |
Oct 30, 09:01 |
Or, |
neeleyman |
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3. |
Oct 30, 09:05 |
No subject |
Hoowahman |
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4. |
Oct 30, 09:11 |
Eidos must be thrilled... |
Schnapple |
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5. |
Oct 30, 09:17 |
Ban Hitman 2! |
Quinn |
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9. |
Oct 30, 09:44 |
Re: Ban Hitman 2! |
Dynotaku |
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13. |
Oct 30, 09:53 |
Re: Ban Hitman 2! |
Dr.Del |
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20. |
Oct 30, 10:21 |
Re: Ban Hitman 2! |
StaTik |
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7. |
Oct 30, 09:39 |
Sihks can lick |
Disemboweler |
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10. |
Oct 30, 09:45 |
Re: Sihks can lick |
Dr.Del |
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11. |
Oct 30, 09:49 |
Oh PLEASE! |
rebel |
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14. |
Oct 30, 09:56 |
Movies |
Hoowahman |
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17. |
Oct 30, 10:04 |
Re: Movies |
Dr.Del |
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18. |
Oct 30, 10:11 |
Re: Movies |
Hoowahman |
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19. |
Oct 30, 10:15 |
re: Dr. Del |
neeleyman |
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21. |
Oct 30, 10:23 |
No subject |
Thera |
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23. |
Oct 30, 10:26 |
"...offended the Sikhs..." |
rebel |
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25. |
Oct 30, 10:33 |
No subject |
The Truth |
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45. |
Oct 30, 12:23 |
Re: No subject |
frightmare |
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26. |
Oct 30, 10:38 |
No subject |
Hoowahman |
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27. |
Oct 30, 11:07 |
Sikh's Carry Knives |
XxSATANxX |
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30. |
Oct 30, 11:15 |
No subject |
Hoowahman |
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32. |
Oct 30, 11:25 |
Hitman 2 |
Oberiko |
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31. |
Oct 30, 11:24 |
Heat Sikhing missile |
Jobz |
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36. |
Oct 30, 11:30 |
Re: Heat Sikhing missile |
Dr.Del |
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41. |
Oct 30, 11:48 |
No subject |
Tony Z |
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46. |
Oct 30, 12:24 |
Re: No subject |
jomisab |
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54. |
Oct 30, 12:40 |
Re: No subject |
ReDeeMeR |
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55. |
Oct 30, 12:44 |
Re: No subject |
ReDeeMeR |
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34. |
Oct 30, 11:26 |
... |
Cicatrix |
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35. |
Oct 30, 11:29 |
No subject |
Xombie |
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37. |
Oct 30, 11:30 |
SOF? |
Blackglass |
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38. |
Oct 30, 11:31 |
Dear Dr. Del, |
Cicatrix |
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43. |
Oct 30, 11:59 |
I don't know what to think... |
Sleepi |
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44. |
Oct 30, 12:09 |
The obvious solution |
Dynotaku |
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51. |
Oct 30, 12:34 |
Re: The obvious solution |
Hazard |
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61. |
Oct 30, 13:05 |
... |
jeremiah |
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47. |
Oct 30, 12:30 |
The real problem |
Schnapple |
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48. |
Oct 30, 12:30 |
The Point |
wodaysyrup |
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56. |
Oct 30, 12:48 |
Re: The Point |
eldunce |
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58. |
Oct 30, 12:52 |
Re: The Point |
Mashiki Amiketo |
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64. |
Oct 30, 13:25 |
Re: The Point |
wodaysyrup |
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62. |
Oct 30, 13:06 |
Re: The Point |
snide |
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66. |
Oct 30, 13:42 |
Re: The Point |
Dr.Del |
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68. |
Oct 30, 14:07 |
Re: The Point |
nin |
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71. |
Oct 30, 14:21 |
Re: The Point |
ReDeeMeR |
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72. |
Oct 30, 14:25 |
Re: The Point |
Xombie |
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70. |
Oct 30, 14:19 |
Re: The Point |
Xombie |
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49. |
Oct 30, 12:30 |
No subject |
john |
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50. |
Oct 30, 12:31 |
No subject |
Xombie |
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52. |
Oct 30, 12:38 |
Holy crap. |
Bludd |
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53. |
Oct 30, 12:38 |
Holy crap. |
Bludd |
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57. |
Oct 30, 12:49 |
No subject |
Elf Shot The Food |
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59. |
Oct 30, 12:55 |
I think |
anon@216.23 |
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60. |
Oct 30, 12:56 |
just my opinion.... |
AstroCreep |
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63. |
Oct 30, 13:22 |
A few words... |
Devinoch |
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65. |
Oct 30, 13:36 |
Don't censor? |
Two_Sheds |
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67. |
Oct 30, 13:56 |
nice backpedaling there |
Mead |
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73. |
Oct 30, 14:27 |
Re: nice backpedaling there |
AK-56 [KK] |
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74. |
Oct 30, 14:30 |
Re: nice backpedaling there |
jeremiah |
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69. |
Oct 30, 14:11 |
Get over it... |
Weas |
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75. |
Oct 30, 14:34 |
No subject |
Elenkis |
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76. |
Oct 30, 14:46 |
Re: No subject |
AK-56 [KK] |
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77. |
Oct 30, 14:51 |
Re: No subject |
BUCKFUTTER |
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78. |
Oct 30, 14:56 |
Re: No subject |
AK-56 [KK] |
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79. |
Oct 30, 15:03 |
Re: No subject |
jeremiah |
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81. |
Oct 30, 15:07 |
Re: No subject |
AK-56 [KK] |
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83. |
Oct 30, 15:22 |
Re: No subject |
jeremiah |
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82. |
Oct 30, 15:21 |
Re: No subject |
Xombie |
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84. |
Oct 30, 15:33 |
No taste |
AK-56 [KK] |
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85. |
Oct 30, 15:46 |
hmmm.... |
zant |
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87. |
Oct 30, 15:55 |
Re: hmmm.... |
opilla |
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94. |
Oct 30, 16:13 |
Re: hmmm.... |
Bronco |
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90. |
Oct 30, 16:01 |
Re: hmmm.... |
snide |
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101. |
Oct 30, 16:23 |
Re: hmmm.... |
zant |
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118. |
Oct 30, 19:49 |
Re: hmmm.... |
snide |
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119. |
Oct 30, 19:55 |
Re: hmmm.... |
Von Helmet |
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86. |
Oct 30, 15:50 |
Re: No taste |
snide |
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92. |
Oct 30, 16:05 |
Re: No taste |
hardcorps1775 |
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96. |
Oct 30, 16:15 |
Re: No taste |
roguebanshee |
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105. |
Oct 30, 16:31 |
Re: No taste |
Xombie |
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102. |
Oct 30, 16:24 |
Re: No taste |
Xombie |
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88. |
Oct 30, 15:55 |
Step back |
BUCKFUTTER |
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89. |
Oct 30, 15:59 |
Liberty |
AK-56 [KK] |
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91. |
Oct 30, 16:04 |
Re: Liberty |
snide |
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93. |
Oct 30, 16:09 |
Re: Liberty |
AK-56 [KK] |
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95. |
Oct 30, 16:14 |
Re: Liberty |
ciscon |
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98. |
Oct 30, 16:18 |
Re: Liberty |
BUCKFUTTER |
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100. |
Oct 30, 16:20 |
Re: Liberty |
ciscon |
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103. |
Oct 30, 16:24 |
Re: Liberty |
JediLuke |
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97. |
Oct 30, 16:16 |
No subject |
AK-56 [KK] |
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125. |
Oct 30, 22:44 |
Re: No subject |
Shadow |
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99. |
Oct 30, 16:19 |
im sikh of all this! |
Jobz |
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104. |
Oct 30, 16:26 |
Ignorants r a Lost cause |
AK-56 [KK] |
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106. |
Oct 30, 16:49 |
Make money for those high tech Machinces |
SwiminnGold |
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109. |
Oct 30, 17:12 |
Re: Make money for those high tech Machinces |
Oblivion |
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110. |
Oct 30, 17:20 |
Re: Make money for those high tech Machinces |
vacs |
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111. |
Oct 30, 17:24 |
Re: Make money for those high tech Machinces |
anon@216.23 |
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120. |
Oct 30, 20:10 |
Re: Make money for those high tech Machinces |
The Truth |
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107. |
Oct 30, 16:53 |
?????? |
Wazootyman |
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108. |
Oct 30, 16:55 |
No subject |
changingman |
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112. |
Oct 30, 17:28 |
Re: No subject |
Elenkis |
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114. |
Oct 30, 17:58 |
My 2 cents... |
Alex Johnson |
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115. |
Oct 30, 18:12 |
OMGWTF I HAVE SCOTTISH ORIGINS! |
Von Helmet |
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113. |
Oct 30, 17:52 |
Re: No subject |
Cicatrix |
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117. |
Oct 30, 18:36 |
Offended |
Oberiko |
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116. |
Oct 30, 18:32 |
No subject |
JM |
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121. |
Oct 30, 20:12 |
Bullshit |
3D Jesus |
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122. |
Oct 30, 20:43 |
Re: Bullshit |
nin |
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123. |
Oct 30, 20:46 |
Re: Bullshit |
The Truth |
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124. |
Oct 30, 21:29 |
Re: Bullshit |
WarPig |
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130. |
Oct 31, 00:52 |
Re: Bullshit |
snide |
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131. |
Oct 31, 01:06 |
Re: Bullshit |
Ray Marden |
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132. |
Oct 31, 02:30 |
HaHa, Too Funny... |
Dr.Del |
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135. |
Oct 31, 04:13 |
Re: HaHa, Too Funny... |
Von Helmet |
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126. |
Oct 30, 23:57 |
well helll |
tempus |
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133. |
Oct 31, 03:55 |
Religion - The Root of all Evil? |
Adam Narramore |
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134. |
Oct 31, 04:07 |
Why do Sikh's merit special treatment? |
Eon |
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136. |
Oct 31, 08:07 |
Classic post Oberiko |
singe32 |
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137. |
Oct 31, 08:49 |
I'm buying it now. |
Avocet |
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138. |
Oct 31, 09:21 |
Re: I'm buying it now. |
jomisab |
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139. |
Oct 31, 11:25 |
An idea for a new game |
kakesingh |
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140. |
Oct 31, 11:30 |
Re: An idea for a new game |
Alex Johnson |
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141. |
Oct 31, 11:33 |
Re: An idea for a new game |
Alex Johnson |
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142. |
Oct 31, 12:17 |
No subject |
Tei |
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143. |
Oct 31, 13:33 |
No subject |
wasrad |
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144. |
Oct 31, 13:35 |
WTF |
Steelcamp |
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147. |
Oct 31, 15:49 |
Anything.. |
Janov |
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148. |
Oct 31, 16:37 |
GAMEPADS |
Politically Censored |
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150. |
Oct 31, 16:54 |
GAMEPADS |
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151. |
Oct 31, 17:18 |
What!?! |
hjkar |
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152. |
Oct 31, 19:01 |
I'M SIKH |
I'M SIKH |
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155. |
Oct 31, 21:52 |
Re: I'M SIKH |
Quaternion |
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159. |
Nov 1, 00:11 |
Re: I'M SIKH |
Johnny Holiday |
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154. |
Oct 31, 21:51 |
HEY!!!! |
Politically Censored |
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156. |
Oct 31, 21:54 |
Re: HEY!!!! |
Quaternion |
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157. |
Oct 31, 22:49 |
HEY!!!! |
Politically Censored |
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158. |
Oct 31, 23:57 |
No subject |
wasrad |
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163. |
Nov 1, 10:01 |
dr. del....tough shit ! |
Killer Kane |
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164. |
Nov 1, 13:09 |
Re: dr. del....tough shit ! |
Dr.Del |
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165. |
Nov 1, 13:39 |
Re: dr. del....tough shit ! |
Human |
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166. |
Nov 1, 14:18 |
Re: dr. del....tough shit ! |
Halcyon_Dream |
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168. |
Nov 1, 15:00 |
Human... |
Dr.Del |
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167. |
Nov 1, 14:27 |
No subject |
wasrad |
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169. |
Nov 1, 15:01 |
Hell ya Pennsylvania Dutch |
Alex Johnson |
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170. |
Nov 1, 15:02 |
Re: No subject |
Dr.Del |
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171. |
Nov 1, 16:49 |
What The...? |
Shadow |
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172. |
Nov 1, 17:12 |
Mr. Dr. Del... |
Alex Johnson |
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173. |
Nov 1, 17:33 |
Re: Mr. Dr. Del... |
Von Helmet |
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176. |
Nov 2, 01:02 |
Von Helmutt |
Dr.Del |
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180. |
Nov 2, 08:40 |
Re: Von Helmutt |
Von Helmet |
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179. |
Nov 2, 06:32 |
Re: Mr. Dr. Del... |
Killer Kane |
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174. |
Nov 1, 22:44 |
And the real point of this has been lost |
Canadia |
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175. |
Nov 1, 23:31 |
Blind Culture |
Metacritic |
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177. |
Nov 2, 01:50 |
;alkehr;eanb |
ColonFiller |
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178. |
Nov 2, 01:59 |
What? |
Alex Johnson |
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181. |
Nov 2, 09:56 |
Re: What? |
Dr.Del |
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182. |
Nov 2, 09:58 |
Re: What? |
Dr.Del |
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184. |
Nov 2, 13:48 |
Re: What? |
JediLuke |
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186. |
Nov 2, 21:53 |
Re: What? |
drdel_blows |
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183. |
Nov 2, 10:37 |
The Golden Temple |
EnsignRedshirt |
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185. |
Nov 2, 20:58 |
Topic Non-Related |
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187. |
Nov 3, 00:29 |
still,... |
The Truth |
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188. |
Nov 3, 05:32 |
Re: still,... |
Wretch |
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189. |
Nov 3, 06:13 |
Re: still,... |
Von Helmet |
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190. |
Nov 3, 14:05 |
Guys, I just came across this quote... |
Alex Johnson |
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191. |
Nov 3, 14:11 |
Re: Guys, I just came across this quote... |
Dr.Del |
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192. |
Nov 3, 14:27 |
Re: Guys, I just came across this quote... |
Quaternion |
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193. |
Nov 3, 16:17 |
Re: Guys, I just came across this quote... |
Dr.Del |
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195. |
Nov 3, 17:17 |
Re: Guys, I just came across this quote... |
Quaternion |
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196. |
Nov 3, 17:42 |
Just kiddin ya... |
Alex Johnson |
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197. |
Nov 3, 21:37 |
Sikhs who aren't offended |
goddessnna |
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198. |
Nov 4, 02:08 |
Quois? |
Halcyon_Dream |
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199. |
Nov 4, 02:36 |
Re: Quois? |
markv |
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200. |
Nov 4, 07:25 |
Re: Quois? |
TheHud |
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206. |
Nov 5, 00:54 |
Re: still,... |
anon@24.76 |
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207. |
Nov 5, 04:20 |
Re: still,... |
Dr.Del |
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208. |
Nov 5, 06:26 |
Re: still,... |
Von Helmet |
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209. |
Nov 5, 09:59 |
Here's a thought |
Nagumo2001 |
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210. |
Nov 5, 11:53 |
Re: Here's a thought |
roguebanshee |
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194. |
Nov 3, 17:01 |
Doom 3 |
The Truth |
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201. |
Nov 4, 13:38 |
How anal can you be??? |
freakwear |
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202. |
Nov 4, 15:16 |
Re: How anal can you be??? |
RC |
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203. |
Nov 4, 16:36 |
Re: How anal can you be??? |
Von Helmet |
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204. |
Nov 4, 18:22 |
So this is still alive? |
Oberiko |
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205. |
Nov 5, 00:06 |
Re: So this is still alive? |
Quaternion |
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211. |
Nov 5, 13:04 |
My $0.02 |
AhrimaaN |
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213. |
Nov 5, 17:09 |
AhrimaaN |
Von Helmet |
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214. |
Nov 5, 17:36 |
Re: AhrimaaN |
anon@24.76 |
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215. |
Nov 5, 18:43 |
Re: AhrimaaN |
Von Helmet |
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216. |
Nov 5, 19:22 |
Re: AhrimaaN |
EnsignRedshirt |
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212. |
Nov 5, 14:11 |
STOP POSTING STUPID COMMENTS!!!! |
Politically Censored |
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217. |
Nov 5, 21:33 |
Fredrickson |
nmg |
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218. |
Nov 6, 00:39 |
Trolls versus Fanboys |
Dr.Del |
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219. |
Nov 6, 00:46 |
Re: Fredrickson |
Captain Beatdown |
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220. |
Nov 6, 00:54 |
Re: Fredrickson |
Dr.Del |
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221. |
Nov 6, 07:01 |
Del... |
Von Helmet |
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222. |
Nov 6, 09:14 |
Re: Del... |
markv |
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225. |
Nov 6, 12:02 |
Hitler 2 |
Dr.Del |
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226. |
Nov 6, 12:06 |
Hitler 2 |
Dr.Del |
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227. |
Nov 6, 12:22 |
Re: Hitler 2 |
Von Helmet |
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228. |
Nov 6, 12:44 |
Re: Hitler 2 |
Dr.Del |
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229. |
Nov 6, 12:58 |
Re: Hitler 2 |
nin |
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230. |
Nov 6, 13:07 |
Re: Hitler 2 |
Dr.Del |
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231. |
Nov 6, 13:18 |
A problem in our world today... |
Alex Johnson |
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233. |
Nov 6, 13:44 |
Re: A problem in our world today... |
Dr.Del |
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234. |
Nov 6, 14:06 |
Re: A problem in our world today... |
wodaysyrup |
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232. |
Nov 6, 13:22 |
Re: Hitler 2 |
Von Helmet |
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238. |
Nov 10, 04:31 |
Re: Hitler 2 |
ekent |
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223. |
Nov 6, 10:57 |
Microcosm vs. Macrocosm |
Metacritic |
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224. |
Nov 6, 11:51 |
Re: Microcosm vs. Macrocosm |
Dr.Del |
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235. |
Nov 7, 07:59 |
Buy.com Allegation False |
Metacritic |
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236. |
Nov 9, 01:17 |
It's All Over |
sherni |
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239. |
Nov 18, 02:13 |
Hmm |
SgtNeo |
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240. |
Nov 28, 22:51 |
Fucking Bastards |
Fuck Off |
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